My Six Month Journey

[Redonckulous]

Hello Team!
I am very interested in starting a six month routine following the MOS principles and equipment. I have done much reading on this site, but know I have barely scratched the surface of information this Brotherhood has cultivated through the years. I have taken everything I’ve seen and combined it into a routine I will practice. There are some finer points that I will need help from you all on. Here’s the routine:

Length (afternoon)
1. Bundled stretches, CW & CCW, 1 set/each
2A. Manual Stretches with rotary, all angles, 3 sets
A to Y Stretches with Rotary As, 3 sets
2B. Triangle Pyramid Hanging 8 sets
2C. Reverse Pyramid Hanging 3-4 sets
3. Silistretcher, medium intensity, 2-4 hours

Question: How should I structure hanging sessions throughout the week? In addition to manual stretching? Alternating days? Any ideas appreciated.

Girth (morning)
1. Bundled Stretches, CW & CCW, 1 set each
2. 5x5x3 Routine, 3 sets, last set DLD blasters
3. Erect Stretching, 1 set
4. Silirings, 2 hours

Rest of Day and sleeping, silipro or silisleeve2 or silicap2.

 

[Redonckulous]

Current measurements:
Length
NBPFL 3”
BPFL 4 1/8”
SNBPFL 4 3/4”
SBPFL 6 1/4”
ENBPL 5”
EBPL 6 1/8”

Girth
Glans flaccid 4 1/2”
Glans erect 4 3/4”

Midshaft flaccid 4 3/4”
Midshaft erect 5”

 

[Redonckulous]

Current equipment:

Bathmate Hydroxtreme7 kit
QuickExtender

Plan on purchasing:
SRT bundle
With Silistretcher in 1.25 size (add 1.5, too?)
With MityVac cylinder 2” diameter by 9 3/4” long
With Silisleev2 medium set (add standard set, too?)

thinking about buying:
SiliCap2 in 4”
SiliPro 4” and 5”
SiliSleev5 medium set

 

[DLD]

Current equipment:

Bathmate Hydroxtreme7 kit
QuickExtender

Plan on purchasing:
SRT bundle
With Silistretcher in 1.25 size (add 1.5, too?)
With MityVac cylinder 2” diameter by 9 3/4” long
With Silisleev2 medium set (add standard set, too?)

thinking about buying:
SiliCap2 in 4”
SiliPro 4” and 5”
SiliSleev5 medium set

I would love to help you put a routine together my brother. Your equipment list looks great the only thing missing that I would grab is the Lengthmaster, this will be your best tool for making active growth. Everything else you have is solid and works perfectly into the SRT methodology. If you’re interested in me helping you put a routine together let me know and I can work with you one on one until you get exactly what you want.

 

[Redonckulous]

@DLD yes Bro, i would greatly appreciate help making a routine. I’ve dabbled off and on over the years and with the Quarantine have time to put the time in.

I started back again couple months ago, I’d pump 3x5 minute Bathmate sessions, wear the QuickExtender ADS afterwards but wasn’t seeing any real gains on length at all, which is what I really want right now. I started noticing the edema and dialed down intensity on pump, but then I noticed month 2 turtling, girth coming in but no length gains. I stopped pumping and using ADS here in December, started reading more and that’s when I found you guys.

I noticed Lightning mention you don’t need the gear to start, but honestly, I want to take this from 0 to 100. I’ve dabbled long enough and want to setup a kick ass routine that I’ll follow religiously next six months to see what I can accomplish!

 

[DLD]

@DLD yes Bro, i would greatly appreciate help making a routine. I’ve dabbled off and on over the years and with the Quarantine have time to put the time in.

I started back again couple months ago, I’d pump 3x5 minute Bathmate sessions, wear the QuickExtender ADS afterwards but wasn’t seeing any real gains on length at all, which is what I really want right now. I started noticing the edema and dialed down intensity on pump, but then I noticed month 2 turtling, girth coming in but no length gains. I stopped pumping and using ADS here in December, started reading more and that’s when I found you guys.

I noticed Lightning mention you don’t need the gear to start, but honestly, I want to take this from 0 to 100. I’ve dabbled long enough and want to setup a kick ass routine that I’ll follow religiously next six months to see what I can accomplish!

Send me an email to guru.dld@gmail.com and we can work together to put something together for you.

 

[Redonckulous]

Wow, my old post is still here! Glad to see I have my original measurements. I’m back again, been on for over 2 weeks now with beginner routine on lengthmaster. Getting some great help from the brotherhood. I won’t measure until 3 month mark.

Recently before starting again i took new measurements.
Bpel 6-1/8”
Bpfsl 7-1/8”
BG 6”
MSG 5”

Since 2020, all i’ve been doing is picking up the MityVac with the 1.75” diameter tube and pumping 10 minutes a day. My pressures were too extreme as I’ve come to find out. But in the tube i was measuring over 7”, so perhaps I was getting some length gains over the years compared to my 2020 numbers.

Thoughts on beginner routine.. lengthmaster is where its at. I can feel the burn (good kind lol) in the base and all around the shaft. I was really sore first few days. That’s gone away now. I can bundle one full turn, 360 degrees. Some mornings when its tight, only a half turn, but it slowly starts loosening up now to a full turn.

Uncle Jim’s wrap is great now. I think i found a way to prevent the wrap from riding up and over the glans during the day.. i wrap from top to bottom and at base go once around the sack and back over to try and wrap more of the fat pad at the base of my dick. Its been holding on really well and glans gets a nice expansion now too.

Anyways, thanks all for having this brotherhood, i’ll be back on the boards posting.

 

[huge-girth]

Following.

 

[Redonckulous]

Following.

Thank you @huge-girth, you have set me on the right track with your coaching!

 

[huge-girth]

Thank you @huge-girth, you have set me on the right track with your coaching!

You are welcome brother. Let's make those gains.

 

[oldandlively]

Recently before starting again i took new measurements.
Bpel 6-1/8”
Bpfsl 7-1/8”

That is one good low hanger there in its flaccid state.

 

[DLD]

Welcome back

 

[huge-girth]

I've helped you move this thread to the right forum where it belongs. I hope this helps.

 

[Redonckulous]

Day 18 observations bundle stretching..
1. To make sure I perform each side and vary up the starting side, I start with clockwise (CW) bundle in morning session and counter clockwise (CCW) bundle in afternoon session.
2. Right side of shaft is slightly sore. Rest of penis feels great. Clockwise rotations can get tender at full one rotation so I am backing off on it to rest for now.
3. Morning session is light to moderate stretching only. Afternoon stretches are definitely better, meaning penis is more relaxed. Bundling is always much easier in the afternoons. Stretches can get to where i feel a deep stretch in the base.
4. Uncle Jim’s wrap makes my dick look big under my jeans. I don’t feel like i’m lying or cheating, though, because it really is my glans at the end of that wrap. Helps me imagine what it will be like with a bigger dick, when it starts hanging that size unwrapped. Have already noticed women looking. Its a big confidence boost and encourages me to keep going.

That is all, have a good day, brothers.

 

[huge-girth]

Keep up the good work brother.

 

[DLD]

Excellent keep it going!

 

[Redonckulous]

Day 20 observations..
- think i’m making a turn, literally! The Lengthmaster feels like a Ferrari steering wheel, and I’m going hard on the curves. To be able to get a deep stretch at the base and sides of dick, i’ve had to start turning more, up to a quarter turn more now to feel a deep stretch.
- my dick is starting to feel more like jelly after stretching, super loose and comfortable. A very interesting feeling as my tunica has always been very tough.
- visually at the base, there are wrinkle lines forming where the skin is folding while bundling. Assume this is natural, just making an observation here.
- i moved up to 90 second holds. Stopping at 60 seconds started to feel like right when i was getting that relaxed, deep stretch in the middle of the shaft and base.
- i’ve been doing downward bundles since the start and BHC stretches occassionally as time and soreness allowed. This past week BHC stretches have taken a leap, i’m able to do them as apart of my routine, 2 sets each, CCW and CW

Question, am i suppose to refrain from getting hard post stretching?

 

[DLD]

You should always do erect stretches. At least 4 sessions a week for
10 minutes

 

[oldandlively]

- my dick is starting to feel more like jelly after stretching, super loose and comfortable. A very interesting feeling as my tunica has always been very tough.

This is fatigue. This is where you want to be at. It's like a long intense massage session to loosen up all your tightly wound up muscles.

- visually at the base, there are wrinkle lines forming where the skin is folding while bundling. Assume this is natural, just making an observation here.

Very natural. The skin will tighten up after a few hours. If you worry about the turkey neck issue, a bit of warm oil and start on a directional jelqing to smooth out the tissues again. 10 minutes is more than enough. As your penis elongated, that issue resolves itself.

Question, am i suppose to refrain from getting hard post stretching?

It's encouraged to get hard, or erected, to get blood into your penis. You might feel too fatigued to get an erection, but erections are great in promoting blood flow for repair. During fatigues, it's highly encouraged to do a light expansion work of you are chasing girth later as well. Your tissues are more than primed to get that little extra expansion routine in to get the extra benefits.

 

[Redonckulous]

This is fatigue. This is where you want to be at. It's like a long intense massage session to loosen up all your tightly wound up muscles.


Very natural. The skin will tighten up after a few hours. If you worry about the turkey neck issue, a bit of warm oil and start on a directional jelqing to smooth out the tissues again. 10 minutes is more than enough. As your penis elongated, that issue resolves itself.


It's encouraged to get hard, or erected, to get blood into your penis. You might feel too fatigued to get an erection, but erections are great in promoting blood flow for repair. During fatigues, it's highly encouraged to do a light expansion work of you are chasing girth later as well. Your tissues are more than primed to get that little extra expansion routine in to get the extra benefits.

Thank you @oldandlively ! Your information and inspiration is greatly appreciated!

 

[Redonckulous]

Day 30 was yesterday, some observations.
- BPSFL was the same, actually it was 7”. 1/8” shorter. While I could be discouraged, I’m not. I understand this is a process. This leads to my second observation.
- Something has changed.. my erect dick IS longer, I know it is. My hand isn’t getting smaller, so.. I measured BPEL and it was up a 1/8”. My BPEL is now 6-1/4”.
-Overall, my penis feels much stronger. Deep inside towards pelvic bone, the base feels like it’s getting bigger. I don’t know how to quantify that, or if it’s only in my head. But I’ll note it.

Has anyone else experienced erect length increases before flacid stretched length increases?

 

[oldandlively]

Day 30 was yesterday, some observations.
- BPSFL was the same, actually it was 7”. 1/8” shorter. While I could be discouraged, I’m not. I understand this is a process. This leads to my second observation.

Very common. BPSFL tends to shorten due to the denser internal tissues deflating, creating a retractive effects. Think of an unused ballons versus an expanded balloon but deflated. The expanded balloon has much greater expansion capacity, but when deflated, it becomes smaller in size than the original.

- Something has changed.. my erect dick IS longer, I know it is. My hand isn’t getting smaller, so.. I measured BPEL and it was up a 1/8”. My BPEL is now 6-1/4”.

Just like the explanation above, you observed and noticed what most of us brothers try to also compensate by keeping things healed through wrapping, promoting elongated flaccid. This prevents that appearance of stronger retraction due to denser internal tissues. It's hardly much, but you want to reflect what you've gained.

-Overall, my penis feels much stronger. Deep inside towards pelvic bone, the base feels like it’s getting bigger. I don’t know how to quantify that, or if it’s only in my head. But I’ll note it.

Welcome to denser and more rigid tissue development. You've gone up one step in the PE game.

Has anyone else experienced erect length increases before flacid stretched length increases?

Many of us have, but we don't correlate the info right away. Good to know you're observing very keenly. Great job!

 

[-SIM-]

Has anyone else experienced erect length increases before flacid stretched length increases?

Yes. It took a while, before my permanent flaccid hang was catching up.

 

[Redonckulous]

Day 48 observations.
Alot has been going on in work and family situation, but despite these challenges I still manage to stretch at least once a day. That has been an issue recently, not consistently being able to find time to warm up and stretch for 20 minutes.

I decided to measure again the other day because again, my penis is starting to feel different again. Now the glans is completely outside my grip when hard, which is very encouraging. I measured 6.5” BPEL and 7.25” BPFSL. So my flaccid length has returned and then some. Wife hasn’t seemed to notice a difference yet, though..

Downward bundle stretches are going better now on rotations. Morning time when tunica is tighter, i can manage to get 1.25 rotations. In the evening, especially if I stregch post hot yoga, I am managing to get 1.5 rotations and am even turning into it further towards 16 minute mark. I am clamping my LM directly behind my glans.

I was reading an article about the pain threshold with bundled stretches, and reaching the point of exhaustion, fatigue by “edging” that threshold, continue to gradually push further and further into the turn and then when the burn starts to subside around the tunica (from the micro tears I am assuming from the feel) then start pushing down, down, down. Breathing, relaxing, breathing into the base of the penis, like a meditation. Starting to reverse kegel, pushing down more. Maybe now I’m starting to think about turning in more, adding some more burn if it has started subsiding too much. This is my process. I may watch a gardening video on youtube, but really, i’m meditating on the feeling of the burn and stretch. Riding the pain threshold.

I had some time to myself and pulled out my mityvac. I have a 1.75” diameter cylinder. I could barely fit my erect penis inside. I tried it but as soon as i pumped the penis stuck all around the tube and wouldn’t budge. I can’t believe i’ve outgrown my first tube. I have a bathmate, too, and pulled it out. I use the comfort insert with it to not suck up skin. Man, the base of my penis looked like it was 3/8”- 1/4” away from filling the sleeve. Anyways, i’m not working on girth at the moment but all pf this was encouraging and I wanted to note.

 

[Redonckulous]

Tonight, penis was hurting on left side. Was only able to turn 1/2 - 3/4 turn max tonight on second session. Pain was too much and i stopped at 5 minutes. Should i take a break or stay stretching just back off until i can turn more?

 

[oldandlively]

Tonight, penis was hurting on left side. Was only able to turn 1/2 - 3/4 turn max tonight on second session. Pain was too much and i stopped at 5 minutes. Should i take a break or stay stretching just back off until i can turn more?

You feel pain, ease up, and rest. Just allow 12 to 24 hours for the pain to subside possibly due to kinking. If there's still pain after resting, look for possible cuts on the left side.

 

[DLD]

You feel pain, ease up, and rest. Just allow 12 to 24 hours for the pain to subside possibly due to kinking. If there's still pain after resting, look for possible cuts on the left side.

I also believe deep tissue massage with heat will greatly help with your situation

 

[Redonckulous]

Thanks for the suggestions @DLD and @oldandlively. I plugged in my MOS RED for the first time and did 15 minutes on that. Then heated it and applied a massage gun to the left side. It was tender at first but began loosening after a couple minutes. May have to incorporate this from now on.

Started back again this morning and the CCW bundles were still a bit sore. I’ve been doing 4 downward sets each clockwise and counterclockwise for 2.5 minutes each. By the fourth set i could comfortably do one full rotation aagain on CCW. Clockwise direction is fine. EQ following stretching was amazing, it was almost like i unplugged something and blood was allowed to rush in. Have not had an experience like that before.

 

[DLD]

Thanks for the suggestions @DLD and @oldandlively. I plugged in my MOS RED for the first time and did 15 minutes on that. Then heated it and applied a massage gun to the left side. It was tender at first but began loosening after a couple minutes. May have to incorporate this from now on.

Started back again this morning and the CCW bundles were still a bit sore. I’ve been doing 4 downward sets each clockwise and counterclockwise for 2.5 minutes each. By the fourth set i could comfortably do one full rotation aagain on CCW. Clockwise direction is fine. EQ following stretching was amazing, it was almost like i unplugged something and blood was allowed to rush in. Have not had an experience like that before.

Remain consistent and things will get better over time. Frustrating bu know time will heal all wounds

 

[Redonckulous]

You feel pain, ease up, and rest. Just allow 12 to 24 hours for the pain to subside possibly due to kinking. If there's still pain after resting, look for possible cuts on the left side.

Cuts on the left side as meaning skin?

 

[huge-girth]

Cuts on the left side as meaning skin?

Just give it a few days off if there is no cut on the side that hurts. I ran into situations like this one many times during my length journey. This kind of situation will always come because you are killing the routine daily.

There will be other situations like this one on other areas of the penis as long as you train with the right progressive intensity and change routine.

Things like this are good news along on your length journey. It goes to show that you are working. Same goes for the famous girth work lump that appears on the penis if you are new to pumping.

Big gains to come brother.

 

[Redonckulous]

Just give it a few days off if there is no cut on the side that hurts. I ran into situations like this one many times during my length journey. This kind of situation will always come because you are killing the routine daily.

There will be other situations like this one on other areas of the penis as long as you train with the right progressive intensity and change routine.

Things like this are good news along on your length journey. It goes to show that you are working. Same goes for the famous girth work lump that appears on the penis if you are new to pumping.

Big gains to come brother.

Thank you for the encouragement, brother!

 

[DLD]

Just give it a few days off if there is no cut on the side that hurts. I ran into situations like this one many times during my length journey. This kind of situation will always come because you are killing the routine daily.

There will be other situations like this one on other areas of the penis as long as you train with the right progressive intensity and change routine.

Things like this are good news along on your length journey. It goes to show that you are working. Same goes for the famous girth work lump that appears on the penis if you are new to pumping.

Big gains to come brother.

Indeed!

 

[oldandlively]

Cuts on the left side as meaning skin?

Yep. The throbbing pain tends to be the cut in the skin or just a bad kink. It happens. I tend to pay attention immediately when there's a fold, kink, or bad wrap in the first few seconds of LM usage. I rather take the extra few minutes to correct the issue rather than plowing through and suffer the pains later. You'll eventually create a hyper awareness on this later as you use the LM long enough.

 

[Redonckulous]

I know this has to be working, because something is going on. I decided I would take wednesday and thursday morning off. I haven’t really taken days off yet, mostly just do one session a day if I have been really sore. Well, I go to clamp on last night and start getting tingling and light throbbing down the right and left sides of rhe shaft. Base is still a bit sore. The sensation down the sides I have not had before. Is this apart of exhaustion? Should I rest a little bit more right now? Should I try and work through it?

 

[DLD]

I know this has to be working, because something is going on. I decided I would take wednesday and thursday morning off. I haven’t really taken days off yet, mostly just do one session a day if I have been really sore. Well, I go to clamp on last night and start getting tingling and light throbbing down the right and left sides of rhe shaft. Base is still a bit sore. The sensation down the sides I have not had before. Is this apart of exhaustion? Should I rest a little bit more right now? Should I try and work through it?

I would blame this on clamping. Take a few days off and return with less intensity

 

[oldandlively]

Never push through when something feels off or exceeds the full pain feeling. Relax, rest, and allow the healing.

 

[DLD]

Never push through when something feels off or exceeds the full pain feeling. Relax, rest, and allow the healing.

Amen

 

[Redonckulous]

Hello Brothers,
Wanted to touch base with you all again. I am still length training! Admittedly, some days only once and I generally take a day off every week. Over the past couple weeks I have changed it up a bit in order to make sure I get 2 practices in a day. My commute is long, 1.5 hours each way generally. In the morning before I go i’ll wrap up for stretching. I detached the arms of the LM and only take the smaller weight hanging piece. During traffic I set it up and voila, stretch in the car while commuting. Nothing will stand in my way!

 

[oldandlively]

I used to do the same thing in the past, where I strap a pulley system down and around my driver's seat since I'll be stuck in traffics for 2 hours just going in one direction. There were days, and still do, where I have to drive 6 to 24 hours. If I have to get variable traction force from 10lbs back down to 2.5lbs, I use the flex cord and traction noose straps, strap on, and go. Before I get out of the car, quick disconnect and ready to move. The only down side is the *SNAP* as the penis shrank under tension. Ooooo...I still remain those rubberband whipping pains.

Now, I can just use the vacuum cup and strap it around my left knee. Straight it out a bit, and I get less tension. Bend the knee and that traction force goes straight up to 6lbs easy. Bless the guys that come up with the ideas in using the therapeutic vacuum cups for uses on tits, clits, and dicks.