Is BPC157 Peptide the Magic Supplement for PE?

[zerotohero33]

I’ve been doing a lot of research on outside of the BPC157 lately and everything I’m reading seems to indicate that it would be the perfect addition to a PE routine to increase healing. It promotes blood flow to the damaged tissue, increases type 1 collagen dramatically, it’s pretty miraculous in its healing abilities. I’m wondering if anyone whose more well versed in the “science” of PE, cellular repair etc, could comment on its efficacy?

I’m a specially considering how useful it could be for growth if used with a Resik PE routine that causes lots of tissue stretching, and then wear an ADS all day to dramatically speed up the healing/lengthening.

This is a decent article that summarizes the benefits of the peptide. Would love it if someone with more knowledge than myself could read and comment their thoughts.

https://yuniquemedical.com/peptide-therapy-bpc-157/

 

[Pump4girth]

I am interested in finding out more.

 

[Threak-X]

BCP-157 - Body Protective Compound-157 (PL 14736)...
... this peptide has some interesting properties that could have some benefits with PE-training.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20225319/

 

[DLD]

Thanks for the article Threak I’ll spend tonight looking into that I appreciate you finding it.

 

[Cot1]

BCP-157 - Body Protective Compound-157 (PL 14736)...
... this peptide has some interesting properties that could have some benefits with PE-training.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20225319/

Should one inject directly to the penis?

 

[Jackxxx]

USELESS.

First, it has been tried over the years along TB-500, of course unsuccessfully. All this has been done without any proper research or science backing any benefit in tendon elongation.

Second, the approach you are suggesting to PE and BPC-157 use is not recommended. If you approach PE under the principle of creating inflammation/damage and then working on healing, all you are going to end with is an extremely tough tunica and septum that wont lengthen even if you pull an aircraft carrier with your dick.

I have been in deep talk and research with other members including all these different approaches of novel compounds and chemicals looking for ANY potential in tissue elongation. So far, as long as the approach of PE is tissue inflammation and damage, is the WORNG approach. It will severely hinder gains and promote toughening of the tissues.

The proper approach to PE is ECM (Extra Cellular Matrix) reorganization. Basically create strain under stress relaxation to promote collagen fibers and elastin to re organize. Over time that translates into lengthening which of course is not eternal, gains diminish, but a decon break allows the reorganization of the ECM to settle and allow for the potential of new lengthening.

Therefore based on that approach, something like BPC-157 is useless for PE. Now as far as health properties of BPC-157, it is a wonderful peptide widely used in the bodybuilding community for injury healing.

 

[Jackxxx]

Should one inject directly to the penis?

Even if it worked for PE, no, you dont need to inject it locally since it goes systemic in the bloodstream.

The only time BPC-157 works locally is when ingested orally since it is naturally produced mostly in the GI tract for tissue repair. In that case it acts mostly in that area.

 

[DLD]

Even if it worked for PE, no, you dont need to inject it locally since it goes systemic in the bloodstream.

The only time BPC-157 works locally is when ingested orally since it is naturally produced mostly in the GI tract for tissue repair. In that case it acts mostly in that area.

Knowledge you can’t get at college

MOS university!

 

[zerotohero33]

USELESS.

First, it has been tried over the years along TB-500, of course unsuccessfully. All this has been done without any proper research or science backing any benefit in tendon elongation.

Second, the approach you are suggesting to PE and BPC-157 use is not recommended. If you approach PE under the principle of creating inflammation/damage and then working on healing, all you are going to end with is an extremely tough tunica and septum that wont lengthen even if you pull an aircraft carrier with your dick.

I have been in deep talk and research with other members including all these different approaches of novel compounds and chemicals looking for ANY potential in tissue elongation. So far, as long as the approach of PE is tissue inflammation and damage, is the WORNG approach. It will severely hinder gains and promote toughening of the tissues.

The proper approach to PE is ECM (Extra Cellular Matrix) reorganization. Basically create strain under stress relaxation to promote collagen fibers and elastin to re organize. Over time that translates into lengthening which of course is not eternal, gains diminish, but a decon break allows the reorganization of the ECM to settle and allow for the potential of new lengthening.

Therefore based on that approach, something like BPC-157 is useless for PE. Now as far as health properties of BPC-157, it is a wonderful peptide widely used in the bodybuilding community for injury healing.

Man I’m not gonna lie, reading this comment was pretty discouraging. I haven’t been able to grow any length in 6+ months since I’ve started PE. I’m doing my manual stretches, bundled stretches, Jelqs and wearing my ADS literally all day, for over 1,000 hours total so far. What the fuck am I doing wrong? Have I just been toughening my penis this whole time? Can you explain a little more what you mean by extra cellular matrix? How would I need to change my training to fit this criteria?

 

[Jackxxx]

Man I’m not gonna lie, reading this comment was pretty discouraging. I haven’t been able to grow any length in 6+ months since I’ve started PE. I’m doing my manual stretches, bundled stretches, Jelqs and wearing my ADS literally all day, for over 1,000 hours total so far. What the fuck am I doing wrong? Have I just been toughening my penis this whole time? Can you explain a little more what you mean by extra cellular matrix? How would I need to change my training to fit this criteria?

You are not necessarily toughening. What is your BPFSL and BPEL?

 

[Threak-X]

Extra Cellular Matrix (ECM)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1318112/

 

[Cot1]

Extra Cellular Matrix (ECM)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1318112/

Bro i didnt understand,can you explain in very simple what they are writing about?

 

[Threak-X]

Bro i didnt understand,can you explain in very simple what they are writing about?

DAYUM, I thought you knew...
...that's make two of us now; oh well

Yeah, it's quite a bit to comprehend. The 9-syllable words are a lot to chew on.
Forget the big words, you can always google them to better understand them
Here's a visual for you:

 

[Jackxxx]

I did nor reply about the ECM for him, because I want to approach in simple terms his main concern and help him as fast as possible to make sure he is approaching his penis the right way.

To summarize in simple terms, as as concern to us, the ECM is simply the universe of complex tissues that compose connective tissue.

For instance, in the case of our Tunica, is not just a tendon, or a collagen structure. Sure, it is mainly collagen, but you also have elastin fibers and fibrils that holds this "mesh" together in place.

Therefore the reason why is important for us to understand this structure is because is not just a matter of pull collagen fibers like rubber bands. It is a matter of finding the way to reorganize this mixture (ECM) in an arrange that will allows us for extension, length, WITHOUT EVER causing damage, inflammation or injury to it. When that happens, just like with skeletal muscle, these fibers become thicker and stronger to sustain the damage, that hat translates over time into diminished and/or end of length gains.

 

[Cot1]

Shit u guys are geniouses!!!????

Needless to say that i am forever greatfull for ur advices and knowledge!!!

 

[DLD]

Shit u guys are geniouses!!!????

Needless to say that i am forever greatfull for ur advices and knowledge!!!

We have a wonderful family here at the brotherhood and you always find a brother that understands what you’re going through and will help you make the best decisions. God bless you my brother and have a nice Christmas

 

[zerotohero33]

You are not necessarily toughening. What is your BPFSL and BPEL?

My BPFSL is about 9.25 and BPEL is 8.5. Haven’t really gained any length since I started. Have you released your full regimen for the Infrared Heating protocol?

 

[Jackxxx]

My BPFSL is about 9.25 and BPEL is 8.5. Haven’t really gained any length since I started. Have you released your full regimen for the Infrared Heating protocol?

Which infrared heating protocol? (cwl)

In regards to your measurements, first, make sure your numbers are EXACT and accurate. Going by "about 9.25" doesnt work since gains and progress on a weekly basis is millimetrical. Therefore if you measure "about this and that", there is ZERO way to properly and scientifically track progress.

With that being said, the important thing is that your BPFSL>BPEL. That means you HAVE the capacity to make length gains. All your exercises should be based in 100% erection and consisting in erect stretching, pulls, bends, clamps, erect traction device, pumping.

What is your current routine, or the routine that hasn't given you any gains?

 

[Jackxxx]

BTW, my current length routine is based on PGE-1 assisted overnight controlled priapism potentiated with Ayurvedic medicine.

 

[Cot1]

Which infrared heating protocol? (cwl)

In regards to your measurements, first, make sure your numbers are EXACT and accurate. Going by "about 9.25" doesnt work since gains and progress on a weekly basis is millimetrical. Therefore if you measure "about this and that", there is ZERO way to properly and scientifically track progress.

With that being said, the important thing is that your BPFSL>BPEL. That means you HAVE the capacity to make length gains. All your exercises should be based in 100% erection and consisting in erect stretching, pulls, bends, clamps, erect traction device, pumping.

What is your current routine, or the routine that hasn't given you any gains?

Bro can i use the LM while erect?

 

[DLD]

Bro can i use the LM while erect?

You can but I would be very very careful that you don’t get blisters or thrombosis. Really get to know your body and your LM before you try this. But if you do try it but it is successful please let us know exactly what you did so we can add this to our knowledge base

 

[mwwip]

Some guys in another group I am a part of have been experimenting with this, as well as applying high concentration Topical DHT to their members and have seen some results. DHT is tough one though because it will shut you down so if you dont plan on doing a PCT dont even think about it

 

[DLD]

Some guys in another group I am a part of have been experimenting with this, as well as applying high concentration Topical DHT to their members and have seen some results. DHT is tough one though because it will shut you down so if you dont plan on doing a PCT dont even think about it

I would run this by @Jackxxx as He has extensive knowledge in this area.

 

[Jackxxx]

Some guys in another group I am a part of have been experimenting with this, as well as applying high concentration Topical DHT to their members and have seen some results. DHT is tough one though because it will shut you down so if you dont plan on doing a PCT dont even think about it

The thing with DHT, is a hit or miss. And why is that. Because there is not enough science and research study behind DHT and potential penis growth. One reason why there is not enough research is because it falls in the field of epigenetics which is rather new.

This is what happens with DHT:

- If a woman start using it along with testosterone, she will see a huge increase in size of her clitoris.
- If a man with diagnosed micropenis is put on therapy with DHT and testosterone, he will see a big increase in penis size
- If a teenager born with primary hypogonadism is put on a therapy with DHT and testosterone, he will see big increase in testicular size and penile size.
- If a group of healthy normal adult men start a therapy of DHT and testosterone, they will randomly see little or "some" results to none.

The differences you see there is due to something called gene expression. On a healthy adult man, who was born from a healthy mother, his penis would have developed to its maximum genetic potential. Therefore no matter what kind of exogenous hormones you apply and at what doses, that penis wont change in size.

On the other hand, wether is a woman or a man born with some deficiency, that gene is still there coded to grow a certain amount of penis but never made it for multiple reasons. Gender, mother depleted of essential nutrients while pregnant, mother exposed to harmful environments while pregnant, etc. That gene, still has the potential to develop once the right conditions are created. In this case, the hormonal environment.

And you have lastly the third group in between where the male is considered healthy and fully developed, but still with some potential gene expression to develop. Those are the ones who see "some" results.

If you are not familiar with the use of hormones and how your HPTA (Hypothalamic testicular axis) works, I would recommend to stay away from it. Otherwise you can give it a try. True, it will shut down your HPTA but is only temporary and a healthy diet with high quality supplements of essential nutrients will restore the HPTA quickly.

 

[DLD]

The thing with DHT, is a hit or miss. And why is that. Because there is not enough science and research study behind DHT and potential penis growth. One reason why there is not enough research is because it falls in the field of epigenetics which is rather new.

This is what happens with DHT:

- If a woman start using it along with testosterone, she will see a huge increase in size of her clitoris.
- If a man with diagnosed micropenis is put on therapy with DHT and testosterone, he will see a big increase in penis size
- If a teenager born with primary hypogonadism is put on a therapy with DHT and testosterone, he will see big increase in testicular size and penile size.
- If a group of healthy normal adult men start a therapy of DHT and testosterone, they will randomly see little or "some" results to none.

The differences you see there is due to something called gene expression. On a healthy adult man, who was born from a healthy mother, his penis would have developed to its maximum genetic potential. Therefore no matter what kind of exogenous hormones you apply and at what doses, that penis wont change in size.

On the other hand, wether is a woman or a man born with some deficiency, that gene is still there coded to grow a certain amount of penis but never made it for multiple reasons. Gender, mother depleted of essential nutrients while pregnant, mother exposed to harmful environments while pregnant, etc. That gene, still has the potential to develop once the right conditions are created. In this case, the hormonal environment.

And you have lastly the third group in between where the male is considered healthy and fully developed, but still with some potential gene expression to develop. Those are the ones who see "some" results.

If you are not familiar with the use of hormones and how your HPTA (Hypothalamic testicular axis) works, I would recommend to stay away from it. Otherwise you can give it a try. True, it will shut down your HPTA but is only temporary and a healthy diet with high quality supplements of essential nutrients will restore the HPTA quickly.

As I knew you would come through with knowledge you can’t get from college

 

[DLD]

 

[mwwip]

The thing with DHT, is a hit or miss. And why is that. Because there is not enough science and research study behind DHT and potential penis growth. One reason why there is not enough research is because it falls in the field of epigenetics which is rather new.

This is what happens with DHT:

- If a woman start using it along with testosterone, she will see a huge increase in size of her clitoris.
- If a man with diagnosed micropenis is put on therapy with DHT and testosterone, he will see a big increase in penis size
- If a teenager born with primary hypogonadism is put on a therapy with DHT and testosterone, he will see big increase in testicular size and penile size.
- If a group of healthy normal adult men start a therapy of DHT and testosterone, they will randomly see little or "some" results to none.

The differences you see there is due to something called gene expression. On a healthy adult man, who was born from a healthy mother, his penis would have developed to its maximum genetic potential. Therefore no matter what kind of exogenous hormones you apply and at what doses, that penis wont change in size.

On the other hand, wether is a woman or a man born with some deficiency, that gene is still there coded to grow a certain amount of penis but never made it for multiple reasons. Gender, mother depleted of essential nutrients while pregnant, mother exposed to harmful environments while pregnant, etc. That gene, still has the potential to develop once the right conditions are created. In this case, the hormonal environment.

And you have lastly the third group in between where the male is considered healthy and fully developed, but still with some potential gene expression to develop. Those are the ones who see "some" results.

If you are not familiar with the use of hormones and how your HPTA (Hypothalamic testicular axis) works, I would recommend to stay away from it. Otherwise you can give it a try. True, it will shut down your HPTA but is only temporary and a healthy diet with high quality supplements of essential nutrients will restore the HPTA quickly.

That makes sense, the guys I have seen have used DHT in combination with intense PE, however, what is to say that the gains weren't just from the intense PE alone. As you said there aren't enough studies. I am very familiar with hormones as I have been blasting and cruising test for the last year and do get routine bloodwork. The guy I am talking about can be seen here, he is not new to PE, but like you said he could just be achieving his maximum genetic potential at a possibly increased due to the DHT, or not. Who knows. I do plan on trying it and reporting back. At the end of the day like with anything, testosterone included, youre not going to pin yourself for 10 weeks and see a massive change unless you put in the work as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AJelqForYou/comments/jkwnl9

 

[Jackxxx]

That makes sense, the guys I have seen have used DHT in combination with intense PE, however, what is to say that the gains weren't just from the intense PE alone. As you said there aren't enough studies. I am very familiar with hormones as I have been blasting and cruising test for the last year and do get routine bloodwork. The guy I am talking about can be seen here, he is not new to PE, but like you said he could just be achieving his maximum genetic potential at a possibly increased due to the DHT, or not. Who knows. I do plan on trying it and reporting back. At the end of the day like with anything, testosterone included, youre not going to pin yourself for 10 weeks and see a massive change unless you put in the work as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AJelqForYou/comments/jkwnl9

Glad to see that you are educated about hormones my friend. I am sure you will be perfectly fine trying it. DHT will not shut you down any harder than a cycle of test.

That user there is doing something good that I was going to mention, which is using HCG during the cycle. The old days popular belief was to do a pct after cycle. Nowadays hcg during cycle is recommended. However, 500iu eod might be a little bit too much. Might cause desensitization to hcg. rather than frequent small doses, bigger sporadic spikes are better. Such as for example, 1,500 iu every 7-10 days. At least I have tried that with VERY good results.

About the DHT 50%.... curious where is he getting it from? one fo the popular sources is that russian guy (russianstar) BUT, his DHT has been reported fake by many sources and users. Some say is just DHEA. Just curious.

 

[mwwip]

He has been mixing his own recently, I know in the beginning he was ussing russianstar, if I order from russianstar I might order two batches and have one sent out for a chemical analysis, would be interesting to find out. The old style thinking is flawed, I use hcg as well

 

[Jackxxx]

He has been mixing his own recently, I know in the beginning he was ussing russianstar, if I order from russianstar I might order two batches and have one sent out for a chemical analysis, would be interesting to find out. The old style thinking is flawed, I use hcg as well

OMG if you get a chemical analysis of russianstar dht I would love you long time bro. I've always been curious about it. A chemical analysis would settle down everything once and for all.

 

[mwwip]

OMG if you get a chemical analysis of russianstar dht I would love you long time bro. I've always been curious about it. A chemical analysis would settle down everything once and for all.

Yea Its like $100, Ill send to same lab that I send test powder to as well, we'll be in touch

 

[DLD]

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