Penis Health Injury using penis pump

[Vishald0810]

Hello.
I have been using air penis pump from last 4-5 years.
I gained half an inch.
But in last 2-3 months I have been using it a lot.
Around 1 hour every day.
Sometimes 1 hour and 15 minutes.
Few days back while using penis pump.
I saw blood drops comings out.
I stopped using it immediately.
I was feeling pinch in penis for one day when ever I use to sit while wearings jeans for 1-2 days.
After couple of days.
It got better.
I don't feel anything.
I don't feel any pain while peeing or while having erection.

But sometime.
Once or twice in a day.
I will a kind of shock or pinch in penis.
It's 11th day

I am Taking a oral medicine for antibiotic used in wounds

Any help???

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Probably a cut in the ureter.
Just rest and it will heal up.

 

[oldandlively]

Yep, sounds like either a cut in the urethra and a nerve pinch/nerve damage. Accelerated expansion and extension of cellular body tends to cause this. Rest and heal time is the option to go. Suggestion would also be promoting extra blood to flow into the penile body with warm compress and light massages. Boosting nitric oxide while doing this will deliver essential components for repair. Using red light therapy will help in reducing healing time as well if you have one or thinking of pulling the trigger for one. Glad MOS Shop actually have a dedicated unit for purchase.

 

[Vishald0810]

Any idea how much time it will take to heal properly.
And what medicines I should take for fast recovery.

But I don't feel anything while peeing.
It normal as before.

Suddenly once in day.
I get a sudden shock while sitting.
May be I guess when penis unintentionally touch jeans

 

[oldandlively]

Cellular division for repairs occur every three days. Depending how bad the damages are, common time span range from 10 days for minimal repairs to 3 months for major. You body will literally tell you along the way. What you can see is one level of healing on display. Sensation of healing through touches, pressures, and pain responses is the other. Don't rush. Let your body tell you.

I suggest to keep a medical log as well during your PE journey. You will be surprised on what you discover as a pattern after a year.

 

[DLD]

Any idea how much time it will take to heal properly.
And what medicines I should take for fast recovery.

But I don't feel anything while peeing.
It normal as before.

Suddenly once in day.
I get a sudden shock while sitting.
May be I guess when penis unintentionally touch jeans

For me it took about 2 weeks to completely heal.

 

[Barry McCochener]

I've experienced blood in the MityVac cylinder, pink water in the Bathmate, blisters on the head all from...wait for it...over doing it. Be it too much pressure w/out a proper warm-up to too much time in the tube, etc. Moderation, properly preparing yourself for the pump/hang/stretch and listening to your body are all tenets to live PE by...but invariably injuries happen. I have ceased doing (what I call) fulcrum stretches while in the MityVac (getting to the standard pressure and then levering the tube up toward my chest) since there's a nerve-bundle at the same point where your dick goes into your pelvis (just below the pubic bone) that started to become sesitive...so if you begin to feel discomfort, stop!
Mother Nature has a vested interest in continuing the species and has created this particular part of our bodies to be very, very resilient...so a week or two of rest should suffice but pay close attention to any/all changes/feelings
just my $0.02

 

[DLD]

I've experienced blood in the MityVac cylinder, pink water in the Bathmate, blisters on the head all from...wait for it...over doing it. Be it too much pressure w/out a proper warm-up to too much time in the tube, etc. Moderation, properly preparing yourself for the pump/hang/stretch and listening to your body are all tenets to live PE by...but invariably injuries happen. I have ceased doing (what I call) fulcrum stretches while in the MityVac (getting to the standard pressure and then levering the tube up toward my chest) since there's a nerve-bundle at the same point where your dick goes into your pelvis (just below the pubic bone) that started to become sesitive...so if you begin to feel discomfort, stop!
Mother Nature has a vested interest in continuing the species and has created this particular part of our bodies to be very, very resilient...so a week or two of rest should suffice but pay close attention to any/all changes/feelings
just my $0.02

It can be. Difficult for finding your max intensity can be very difficult . Follow what your body tells you

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Don't overdo things. Think about progressive overload/expansion of the tissue, with time the temporary expansion, will convert into permanent expansion and gains.

 

[DLD]

Don't overdo things. Think about progressive overload/expansion of the tissue, with time the temporary expansion, will convert into permanent expansion and gains.

Exactly

 

[beliniAW]

I have been using bathmate for 5 months, and finally seeing some progress in thickness. A week ago I noticed loss of sensitivity. No tingling but does feel numb on the surface of the shaft. I read it might be nerve damage. Is this permanent?? Any feedback would be great since I’m freaking out

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I have been using bathmate for 5 months, and finally seeing some progress in thickness. A week ago I noticed loss of sensitivity. No tingling but does feel numb on the surface of the shaft. I read it might be nerve damage. Is this permanent?? Any feedback would be great since I’m freaking out

just rest, can happen when you use to much intensity.

 

[DLD]

just rest, can happen when you use to much intensity.

A couple days of rest will be perfect

 

[Vishald0810]

Hello everyone..
It has been 4 month since I injured my Urethra with excessive pumping.

In first couple of days
It was very sudden and fast burning sensation When my penis head was pressed against clothers or jeans.

After 4 month ..
Condition is better.
But it's still not Fully healed.
But still sometime I feel burning sensation in my penis head when it hardly pressed against clothes.
I don't feel anything in normal time.
I feel something when penis is strongly pressed against clothes or wash basin or something else.
And feel burning sensation while masturbation too
Not right away...
After 15-20 min of masturbation....

Can you suggest why my Urethra is not fully healed??
One factor maybe...I masturbate a lot...once or twice a week for hours.

Suggest me some ways to heal my Urethra and suggest me some medicine for faster healing.


Now I am scared..
Will my Urethra will ever get fully healed.
It's already 4-5 months now

Please help

 

[Vishald0810]

I have circumcised penis...
No foreskin

 

[notmeanymore]

if you find out let me know. im in worse shape than you from this crap

 

[oldandlively]

Hello everyone..
It has been 4 month since I injured my Urethra with excessive pumping.

First of all, what equipment did you use?
Secondly, did you know the pressure you were using and how fast did you go from non-vacuum to vacuum state?

In first couple of days
It was very sudden and fast burning sensation When my penis head was pressed against clothers or jeans.

This is quite common for those who went too fast and pump too accessively. Sounds like damage to the glans at the urethra tip, and possibly a torn nerve ending.

After 4 month ..
Condition is better.
But it's still not Fully healed.
But still sometime I feel burning sensation in my penis head when it hardly pressed against clothes.
I don't feel anything in normal time.
I feel something when penis is strongly pressed against clothes or wash basin or something else.
And feel burning sensation while masturbation too
Not right away...
After 15-20 min of masturbation....

After a month and you still have that burning sensation, it's no longer the urethra. It's definitely a damaged nerve, commonly happens when the nerve segment is either pull too hard (think of tissue disconnection) or suffer blunt trauma. During this time, the nerve attempts to heal and reconnect itself, causing "misfires" of the neuro-signal from the touches.

Can you suggest why my Urethra is not fully healed??
One factor maybe...I masturbate a lot...once or twice a week for hours.

This will cause issues with exasperating the misfires while the nerve is trying to heal. It's not the urethra any longer. Urethra heals very quickly. Nerve, not so much when you keep on forcing it go out of control through masterbation.

Suggest me some ways to heal my Urethra and suggest me some medicine for faster healing.

Ease up on the masterbation. I know you can't go turkey for obvious personal reasons, but you have to cut back. Your nerve is already misfiring out of control. Allow the nerve to heal completely first.

If you're not getting a burning sensation from peeing, that's not urethra. There are supplements you can drink to acellerate your healing processes. There is no one supplement to go to. You just have to try the one best suits your needs, ranging from normal cheap to slightly pricey ones. There is no miracle cures in a form of a pill either. It's time, proper diet, less nerve stimulation, and gentle massages on the penis to provide blood circulation for optimal healing. Masturbation is not massages.

 

[Vishald0810]

Suggest me supplements and medicines

 

[Vishald0810]

Any tests or X rays to get it confirmed??

 

[Vishald0810]

if you find out let me know. im in worse shape than you from this crap

What happened to you

 

[oldandlively]

Suggest me supplements and medicines

You got tons of selection, from the basic to the pricey:
NOW Supplements Choline & Inositol 500mg
Dr. Berg Nerve Support with Benfotiamine
Supplements with high Ubiquinone (CoQ10)
Nervine
NeuropAWAY
Neurophathy 500, 600 and 1200
Pure Encapsulations Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 mg
Topical lidocaine

Then you get the prescription in pill or injection version from specialists containing high level of:
Lipoic acid: alpha-lipoic (ALA) and gamma-lipoic acid (GLA)
Acetylcysteine (NAC)
Platelet-Rich Plasma Therapy (PRP)
Some prescribed anticonvulsants and antidepressants to suppress nerve going wild
Prescribed lidocane

It goes on and on and on.

Any tests or X rays to get it confirmed??

Yes, you can call the local urologists to see if an ultrasound or MRI can be done to detect pathology severity. My local urologists have procedures to perform ultrasound and also forward to specialists for MRI (hopefully covered by the insurance company) to see internal pathology damages. Most nurses, doctors, and specialists will tell you that urethra heals very quickly. Otherwise, they won't shove catheters up the urethra.

 

[Vishald0810]

First of all, what equipment did you use?
Secondly, did you know the pressure you were using and how fast did you go from non-vacuum to vacuum state?


This is quite common for those who went too fast and pump too accessively. Sounds like damage to the glans at the urethra tip, and possibly a torn nerve ending.


After a month and you still have that burning sensation, it's no longer the urethra. It's definitely a damaged nerve, commonly happens when the nerve segment is either pull too hard (think of tissue disconnection) or suffer blunt trauma. During this time, the nerve attempts to heal and reconnect itself, causing "misfires" of the neuro-signal from the touches.


This will cause issues with exasperating the misfires while the nerve is trying to heal. It's not the urethra any longer. Urethra heals very quickly. Nerve, not so much when you keep on forcing it go out of control through masterbation.


Ease up on the masterbation. I know you can't go turkey for obvious personal reasons, but you have to cut back. Your nerve is already misfiring out of control. Allow the nerve to heal completely first.

If you're not getting a burning sensation from peeing, that's not urethra. There are supplements you can drink to acellerate your healing processes. There is no one supplement to go to. You just have to try the one best suits your needs, ranging from normal cheap to slightly pricey ones. There is no miracle cures in a form of a pill either. It's time, proper diet, less nerve stimulation, and gentle massages on the penis to provide blood circulation for optimal healing. Masturbation is not massages.

It has been 5 months.. it happened on 23rd February 2024. I have been using Air penis pump from last 4 years. But I overdid it in February. I started used it for 2 hours in February. On 24th February.. I saw blood in my pump. Then for next few days I felt electric shock type pain in my penis. But that pain eased after 2-3 weeks. But still it's not 100% fine.. I still feel lot of discomfort. Suggest me some medicines and supplements to recover faster... Will stop masturbation.

 

[oldandlively]

It has been 5 months.. it happened on 23rd February 2024. I have been using Air penis pump from last 4 years. But I overdid it in February. I started used it for 2 hours in February. On 24th February.. I saw blood in my pump. Then for next few days I felt electric shock type pain in my penis. But that pain eased after 2-3 weeks. But still it's not 100% fine.. I still feel lot of discomfort. Suggest me some medicines and supplements to recover faster... Will stop masturbation.

Sounds like you exceeded the vacuum pressure the dermal and epidermal can handle. Does the pump has a gauge, and if so, do you remember what the pressure you exceed?

If not, what was the last feeling you felt before you saw blood? An example, your entire shaft felt like it was very tight, as if you've squeezed the penis very tightly at the base, and your glans went a bit numb.

 

[Vishald0810]

Sounds like you exceeded the vacuum pressure the dermal and epidermal can handle. Does the pump has a gauge, and if so, do you remember what the pressure you exceed?

If not, what was the last feeling you felt before you saw blood? An example, your entire shaft felt like it was very tight, as if you've squeezed the penis very tightly at the base, and your glans went a bit numb.

Actually...one day earlier while sleeping...I suddenly felt electric shock for 1-2 times in my penis for a second.

But I ignored it.
And used pump next day.
When I saw blood in pump.
I felt nothing special in penis.
It was like daily routine.
But once I wore clothes.

I felt electric shocks regularly for next 4-5 days.. very sharp ones.. it got easy with time... Now no electric shock. But can still feel discomfort in penis head

 

[oldandlively]

Actually...one day earlier while sleeping...I suddenly felt electric shock for 1-2 times in my penis for a second.

But I ignored it.
And used pump next day.
When I saw blood in pump.
I felt nothing special in penis.
It was like daily routine.
But once I wore clothes.

I felt electric shocks regularly for next 4-5 days.. very sharp ones.. it got easy with time... Now no electric shock. But can still feel discomfort in penis head

That electrical shock is the indicator of the nerve being torn, ripped, or damaged. The touch signal was sent to your brain, but there was a misfire somewhere, creating that "shock". Pushing past the limit where the penis can hold things together, you probably created a fissure from the inner chamber to the outer layer, crossing through the nerve as well. That probably caused the cut/damage of the nerve, or further injured it.

This is why we warned everyone about knowing the safety limit, precondition by going up slowly, and "creep". Penile injuries are not new. This goes back to as far as when PE has practiced millennia ago. Everyone just go crazy and and not paying attention to safety at the forefront. However, your body will take measures to heal. In this case, you must help it to heal since the penis is an area where the body tends to ignore most of the time.

 

[Vishald0810]

How can I help...
I am from India.
Suggest me best supplements out of your list.

And how much time more it will take.
Will I ever able to use pump in future or not ??

 

[oldandlively]

In India, there are many options for hollistics at your finger tips. If you can order the supplements, a combo of NeuropAway and Neurophathy 1200 will help. Nerve Regen on top every other day will boost it further.

Locally, look for gotu kola, ashwagandha, and high diets with turmeric, ginger, and cumin. There are high herbal mix as well. I do know of specialized herbalists over there do that kind of mix based on my coworkers and friends who came form India. Check for herbal specialists over there as well. Price will be much cheaper than refined pharmaceutical products.

 

[Vishald0810]

In India, there are many options for hollistics at your finger tips. If you can order the supplements, a combo of NeuropAway and Neurophathy 1200 will help. Nerve Regen on top every other day will boost it further.

Locally, look for gotu kola, ashwagandha, and high diets with turmeric, ginger, and cumin. There are high herbal mix as well. I do know of specialized herbalists over there do that kind of mix based on my coworkers and friends who came form India. Check for herbal specialists over there as well. Price will be much cheaper than refined pharmaceutical products.

Ok..
1. I have found most of the ingredients.
How much time it will take to heal ??
How many months

2. About PRP.. is P-Shot similar to PRP...will it have similar benefits. Good PShot by certified urologists is easy available here in India

 

[oldandlively]

Ok..
1. I have found most of the ingredients.
How much time it will take to heal ??
How many months

I can't give you the exact days, but most healing for nerve injuries can be as little as 1 week (not you at the moment), to average around 9 months (my cut fingers are still feeling numb and tingling due to slow healing), and as long as a few years for severe damages. An example is shredded nerve segments due to heavy injuries (not you).

2. About PRP.. is P-Shot similar to PRP...will it have similar benefits. Good PShot by certified urologists is easy available here in India

Yes, they are similar. Some P-shots have extra cocktails to boost the plasma healing factors. Most are just extracted plasma.

 

[Vishald0810]

I can't give you the exact days, but most healing for nerve injuries can be as little as 1 week (not you at the moment), to average around 9 months (my cut fingers are still feeling numb and tingling due to slow healing), and as long as a few years for severe damages. An example is shredded nerve segments due to heavy injuries (not you).



Yes, they are similar. Some P-shots have extra cocktails to boost the plasma healing factors. Most are just extracted plasma.

Cocktail?? Detail

 

[DLD]

I can't give you the exact days, but most healing for nerve injuries can be as little as 1 week (not you at the moment), to average around 9 months (my cut fingers are still feeling numb and tingling due to slow healing), and as long as a few years for severe damages. An example is shredded nerve segments due to heavy injuries (not you).



Yes, they are similar. Some P-shots have extra cocktails to boost the plasma healing factors. Most are just extracted plasma.

So you have your account back?

 

[oldandlively]

Cocktail?? Detail

The cocktail comprises of plasma, Vit E and D3, stem cell boost, B complex to support the stem and plasma concentration, and alpha lipoic acid. Each clinic charges differently for the mix based on the price of the vials and availability of stem cells. Plasma is your own.

So you have your account back?

Finally, yes. Thank you.

 

[DLD]

The cocktail comprises of plasma, Vit E and D3, stem cell boost, B complex to support the stem and plasma concentration, and alpha lipoic acid. Each clinic charges differently for the mix based on the price of the vials and availability of stem cells. Plasma is your own.


Finally, yes. Thank you.

Excellent! Have you explored moderator tools?

 

[oldandlively]

Excellent! Have you explored moderator tools?

Yes. Not going to mess around with them and throw things out of bound. I got the gist on how to use them.

 

[Vishald0810]

The cocktail comprises of plasma, Vit E and D3, stem cell boost, B complex to support the stem and plasma concentration, and alpha lipoic acid. Each clinic charges differently for the mix based on the price of the vials and availability of stem cells. Plasma is your own.


Finally, yes.

Yes. Not going to mess around with them and throw things out of bound. I got the gist on how to use them.

I got one query..
I am taking all the medicines and rest for 6 months.. how would I know that nerve is repaired??
And if I use vaccum pump after 6 months.. will nerve again get damaged??

Or once healed..
It will be properly healed??

 

[oldandlively]

I got one query..
I am taking all the medicines and rest for 6 months.. how would I know that nerve is repaired??

Either erection or flaccid has no further numbing or pain. The recovery should be at 95% of the original. No damage nerve can return to 100%.

And if I use vaccum pump after 6 months.. will nerve again get damaged??

As long as you can follow the safety precaution we have set up, it will not get injured like it does. Injury of the nerves and blood vessels are constant as they are under strains during growth from the expansion. The safe injuries are called "micro traumas". They are needed for growth.

Make sure to create your own progress and routine page in the member section and we'll provide you proper advices before you resume again.

Or once healed..
It will be properly healed??

Once again, any damaged to the original cannot be 100% healed. There will be some residual damages within that 5%. Just like your broken bones and damaged muscles. Nothing can return back to the original. 95% is the maximum recovery at best. 0% at worst.

 

[Vishald0810]

Either erection or flaccid has no further numbing or pain. The recovery should be at 95% of the original. No damage nerve can return to 100%.


As long as you can follow the safety precaution we have set up, it will not get injured like it does. Injury of the nerves and blood vessels are constant as they are under strains during growth from the expansion. The safe injuries are called "micro traumas". They are needed for growth.

Make sure to create your own progress and routine page in the member section and we'll provide you proper advices before you resume again.


Once again, any damaged to the original cannot be 100% healed. There will be some residual damages within that 5%. Just like your broken bones and damaged muscles. Nothing can return back to the original. 95% is the maximum recovery at best. 0% at worst.

If it's 95% ..
If I use vaccum..
It might go to 70% or 50%

Will it get worse again ??

 

[oldandlively]

If it's 95% ..

If you reach 95% healing, that's pretty much full recovery. You can resume your pumping again without any issues.

If I use vaccum..
It might go to 70% or 50%

If you use your pump when you're 70% recovered, you may worsen it. If it's 50% healed and you use the pump, that's will cause immediate aggravation and further injure your penis.

Will it get worse again ??

If you allow it to heal completely, it will not worsen. If you pump before it heals properly, you will definitely worsen it. It's like a broken arm or leg. Do you want to walk or run with a broken leg or exercise with a broken arm before it heals? If you want to get crazy and keep walking, running, or exercise with a broken body part, that part will not heal properly and worsen immediately to the point of bad healing.

 

[Vishald0810]

If you reach 95% healing, that's pretty much full recovery. You can resume your pumping again without any issues.


If you use your pump when you're 70% recovered, you may worsen it. If it's 50% healed and you use the pump, that's will cause immediate aggravation and further injure your penis.

Bro . one last query
Can shockwave therapy help too.
I found here one urologist offering PShot with shockwave therapy.

But I guess shockwave therapy's mechanism is different.. shockwave therapy initially hurts penis to help it grow harder and better?????

I think it will damage my vessel further.

 

[oldandlively]

Bro . one last query
Can shockwave therapy help too.
I found here one urologist offering PShot with shockwave therapy.

If you do have LIST (low intensity shockwave therapy) using focused (not radial), yes! Go for it. It does help to break down the fragmented (scattered) branches of the nerve that frayed off and refocus the strengthening of the main nerve that connects. However, if you can, get an ultrasound first to see the internal conditions before using LIST.

But I guess shockwave therapy's mechanism is different.. shockwave therapy initially hurts penis to help it grow harder and better?????

No. LIST is slightly different. It should not hurt. It's like you using a finger and pressure on the spot. The low intensity soundwave generated a shockwave through your skin. You should only feel some light to moderate pressure, not pain.

I think it will damage my vessel further.

This is why an ultrasound is needed to see the internal damage before using any LIST. Those who skip this and do whatever they want simply causes more issues down the road.

 

[notmeanymore]

the best thing you can do is throw that thing away and pray you dont end up like me. it has altered every single feeling i ever had. my life is ruined 100%, and ill never be right from this. nothing works ever right, and ive lost serious flaccid size and erection size(when it decides to work. ). and major glans issues. major premature ejac issues. sex isnt even enjoyable now. Its almost a year now. didnt start really getting bad until the last 3 months.

 

[Vishald0810]

One more query.
Should I resume using traction device.
Or should I wait till nerve is healed.

I only feel pinch in penis head while erection.
Or when penis head is hardly pressed against something.

Can I resume using traction device without disturbing penis head.
I mean using traction device from base of penis to point below penis head..

Please guide

 

[notmeanymore]

walk away dude. you do not want these problems i promise!

 

[oldandlively]

One more query.
Should I resume using traction device.
Or should I wait till nerve is healed.

Allow things to heal first. Don't be too eager and overzealous on the PE. Allow your body to catch up before placing it under burdens.

I only feel pinch in penis head while erection.
Or when penis head is hardly pressed against something.

Pinching feeling is the nerve telling you it's under stresses.

Can I resume using traction device without disturbing penis head.

Traction devices rely mainly on the glans to hold the entire device in place. Traction device anywhere else on the shaft will cause slippage.

I mean using traction device from base of penis to point below penis head..

Please guide

Allow the nerve to heal first. Once you know it sufficiently heal, slowly go up on traction force. Do not engage PE until it's healed.

 

[bemorethanbig]

V, Sorry to hear about your issue.

But please be specific,
1. Have you stopped all PE since your injury?
2. When was your last Decon?
3. What was your exact routine for the years of pumping


Next steps:
1. Stop all pumping and exercises for 12 weeks. Consider this your Decon period that you need to do anyways, regardless of the injury.
2. Go to a doctor, explain what happened. Do not feel embarrassed at all. Get 2 or 3 doctors to look into it.
3. Don't do P-shot or any shock until you are fully healed. If you do P-shot, the only way you supposedly benefit is with pumping. So you would be back to square one. With what you described P-shot and shock should not even be on your mind for 2 years after no problems at all.
4. With what you are talking about I estimate a few months to fully heal

When you want to get back to PE 4-6 months from now:
1. Consider jelqing lightly
2. Have you done manual stretches? Get the lengthmaster
3. Only do water pumping less than 8 Hg- 5 min for 3 weeks and then 10 min month 2 and 15 min month 3 (not bathmate when you come back). Do pumping not for penis growth but for EQ. Get it?

Consider this for you considering your injury:
1. Consider this, you can do water pumping for EQ for life but pumping for PE that you need to do in a routine. Meaning you push hard during your routine times, so for 4-8 months. Then back to pumping for EQ and after your decon, do something else or go back to strong pumping, but you have to give the D a little bit of a break. I'm about to do a post about my first water pumping issue when I went on an intense routine for 5 months but I know it's my body just telling me to chill a bit.

 

[bemorethanbig]

But in last 2-3 months I have been using it a lot.
Around 1 hour every day.
Sometimes 1 hour and 15 minutes.

V, I'm saying this to you nicely because I don't want you to feel bad at all, and screaming at any newbie reading this.

Who the hell told you to pump more than 20 min a day max? Who told you to do this daily?

For anyone reading this, I have all my gains with NO MORE THAN 20 min max a day and for the most part 5 times a week max. In fact since 5 x 5 x 3 I have only done 15 min,

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

or anyone reading this, I have all my gains with NO MORE THAN 20 min max a day and for the most part 5 times a week max. In fact since 5 x 5 x 3 I have only done 15 min,

I agree.

Some input to this.
All my gains are produced with 5x5x3 as well.
When I started out I was following GettingBigger9's advice and I did the same programming, but with regular downward C-Jelq's. I belive this is something that Bathmate do not suggest or recommend, and this is the reason some men don't realize that 5 minutes inside the penis pump is more then enough to produce gains. When I look at Bathmat's other discussion site page I see men being inside the pump for like 20 minutes without any form of manual penis enlargement work like C-Jelq's, V-Jelq's or even SSJ's.

It's not just a matter of time (how long time you are inside the penis cylinder), but more to do with intensity and how you do everything during your sets both inside the penis pump and outside the penis pump. In my personal opinion being inside a penis pump for 20 minutes straight, will not produce any substantial gains, and for me it would only create a lot of fluid retention.

This is how I set up my SRT, 5x5x3 sessions.
Have a baseline of vacuum pressure, where you can be at for 5 minutes without a problem. But still have high intensity and stretch on your tissue and tunica albuginea. My baseline is pretty high at 10 in.Hg. I can go up immidiatly to 10.in.Hg but I have a pretty long varmup session with C-Jelq's before my sessions.

I only do SRT 5x5x3 and it's high intensity.
Then during 2 minutes at each set (3 sets total) I go up to 12 in.Hg and then back again to 10 in.Hg for the rest of the 5 minutes. Be at your baseline for a while before you creep up to the highest level. Your baseline can be lower then 10 in.Hg so be careful and increase the intensity and vaccum pressure in a progresive way. Don't rush this phase. It's a long game. When you have been at it for a long time you will be able to increase your vaccum pressure baseline more and more and when you are at the highest level you will be able to gain the fastest.

One more thing to consider is how you are gaining. Do you want a penis that only bulge at the midshaft or are evenly girthy?
To get an evenly thick penis my recommendation is to have the MityVac, becouse the way this system is set up you will be able to change between narrow and wide cylinders during a session. Start with a snug Acrylic cylinder on your first set, and then have a little wider cylinder on your second and last set (you only need 3 sets for growth = SRT 5x5x3). You can even have 3 diffrent width cylinders to benefit this the most. In this way you will be able to program your tissu to grow evenly up the shaft.

I hope this clear things up. This programming above is the programming I'm using.

 

[oldandlively]

This is why this brotherhood arrives on providing proper info with safety in mind. So many brothers in the PE journeys are doing things too wrecklessly. Most devices don't come with instructions, or the instructions are too vague. There are so many injuries reported in and I can't keep up with managing all the data aside from what I do. It's crazy.

 

[Vishald0810]

This is why this brotherhood arrives on providing proper info with safety in mind. So many brothers in the PE journeys are doing things too wrecklessly. Most devices don't come with instructions, or the instructions are too vague. There are so many injuries reported in and I can't keep up with managing all the data aside from what I do. It's crazy.

In India...
Basically I use to search videos on PE..
My youtube shows me relatable videos.
One thing is very highlighted.
Many urologists are promoting Penile Fat Grafting for girth. Using your own body fat.
One of the India's most searched urologist went to India's most popular podcast show on YouTube.
And he was openly advocating penile fat grafting for girth??

 

[oldandlively]

In India...
Basically I use to search videos on PE..
My youtube shows me relatable videos.
One thing is very highlighted.
Many urologists are promoting Penile Fat Grafting for girth. Using your own body fat.
One of the India's most searched urologist went to India's most popular podcast show on YouTube.
And he was openly advocating penile fat grafting for girth??

This has been talked about since 1963. Rather than fat grafting using the most stubborn visceral fat layers around the belly, the promotion was to grab the fat there and inject using a spiral web pattern along the dermal lining of the penis to add another inch of girth. Once the skin gives enough plasticity, the new volume of fat an be increased even further to no limit. Some actually went as large as 5in in girth doing this. I saw the results and I nearly cried in horror. This is why:

When you inject fat into the penis, even the hard visceral fat is soft. It's not hard. Think about breasts. They are full of milk ducts that are hard, but the density of the breasts comprised of fat. Soft and luscious fat that I love to play with. Imagine that soft fat used for a penis. It's like stuffing a pussy that tighten down on a soft penis that's hard as a cotton tampon. Do you really want a feeling of a cotton penis inside a tight pussy?

Fat migrates via blood steams. For those who enjoyed the fat in the penis, well, after the intense sex sessions, the fat gets pushed into the blood vessels and start to leach out slowly. Now you have additional fat in the blood stream which you don't want.

Fat can't be built up in the penis. Sorry to say, but fat normally don't get stored there. If the body thinks there is valuable resources like fat to use in times of needs, the body will suck the fat out of the penis and there is no way in getting it back unless you pump more into it. The problem is, now, you have saggy penile skin and a smaller penis.

This is why breast fat injections are less preferred over silicone and saline plants.

You probably ask how long the fat lasts? Some stats indicated the optimal girth retention goes as long as few years and some as short as 3 months. Who knows why and what the people did during that time. PE probably, or just crazy sex.

Unfortunately, if you don't have the length, girth will make you look like a short thick can. If you have the length and don't mind the pains to refill every other year for the cotton penis, you can get as large of a penis as you want. Sorry to say, but even my wife frowned upon the feeling of a water retained penis. She'll be extremely unsatisfied with a cotton penis between her legs.