How 'BOUT DEM HORNS

[millionman]

How 'BOUT DEM HORNS??? I hate USC and Pete Carrol, and now all that Three-peat BULLSHIT can stop because it ain't happen that way, now did it? Vince Young is the best college player in the country, and if it were to be given today he would be the Heisman Trophy winner. I think Reggie Bush needs to mail it to him tomorrow morning, because he got own'd tonight and Vince just destroyed that USC defense that was supposedly going to "have" something for the Horns offense. Yeah sure, whatever they want to say. GO HORNS!!!

 

[penguinsfan]

I was glad to see it too. I don't care too much for USC, as they're cocky SOBs. Bush is awesome, but I'm not sold on Leinert. Next season will tell.

Sure, part of my dislike from USC comes from being an Irish fan. But this is not really because of the rivalry. It is because when the Irish basically had a victory over USC taken from them last fall by a critical officiating error, I really felt they didn't deserve the National Championship. Not only that, but a National Champion, in my opinion, is a little tarnished when a "Champion" fails to go undefeated. USC's first title was in a year when they lost to California and it was a split National Championship, which again takes away some of the glory. Between that and a stroke of fate and officiating at the end of the USC @ Notre Dame game that had to have every Notre Dame theologian thinking perhaps God really is a fundamentalist protestant, I couldn't view them as deserving champions. Glad the three-peat didn't happen.

 

[millionman]

That Notre Dame game was horrible. Two timeouts called when they didn't have any. The ball was fumbled on the three and not on the 1 ft line. Bush can not aid Lienart's progress into the endzone and this is another penalty. There were missed holding calls all night long last night, and crap spots given the Trogans by those horrible BIG TEN officials. I wish these guys would learn the rules of the game at some point and get their SHIT together and call things as they should be. Ohhh well, the HORNS won and that makes Daddy happy.

 

[drew21]

It was a game for the ages. Vince Young = wow. A bigger version of Michael Vick who can actually throw a decent ball. Watch out for Texas next year with Young coming back. They are saying he wouldn't be a top 10 pick in this years draft which is crazy in mind.

 

[Texan]

It was a game for the ages. Vince Young = wow. A bigger version of Michael Vick who can actually throw a decent ball. Watch out for Texas next year with Young coming back. They are saying he wouldn't be a top 10 pick in this years draft which is crazy in mind.

Hey Drew, have you watched Vince much? Mot trying to down on what you said, but Vince played the game of his life last night (and he should leave now, because his stock will never be higher, IMO). If he had looked like that all season he would have won the Heisman, hands down. I don't think he's a top 10 pick-- although some team would probably draft him high. He's an awesome athlete, and he's better at QB than vick because he goes through his receiver progressions better-- Vick's #2 option is tuck and run (often his #1 option). I really don't know where Vince belongs in an NFL scheme. Right now he fumbles WAY too much to be an elite NFL QB (we didn't see it last night because he didn't get hit that much), and he is not consistently dominating like he was last night. I really think WR or maybe Safety would suit him better, like Matt Jones, maybe. On the other hand maybe another year at UT would give him some more consistency.

LenDale White should stay, IMO. That USC O line is only losing one player, and with Bush gone, White will dominate. His stock should go up tremendously. If he would lose 15-20 pounds, to add a little more speed and agility to his abundant power, he would be big trouble for any D in the nation.

 

[penguinsfan]

That Notre Dame game was horrible. Two timeouts called when they didn't have any. The ball was fumbled on the three and not on the 1 ft line. Bush can not aid Lienart's progress into the endzone and this is another penalty.

Yes, clearly the spot of the ball itself on that last play was quite generous. The dumb luck aspect of it is that the hit put on Leinert was executed so well it knocked the ball right out of this hands, whereas had the not fumbled, the game was clearly over. The fact that Leinert even attempted to run that play into the endzone shows poor decision making on his part, and you can bet much more would have been made out of that had USC not escaped with the win. Then there is the fact that, from everything I understand and have heard, when the ball is fumbled backwards out of bounds--the clock continues to run. Clearly, the initial call was correct...students storm the field--the streak is over. Now, some USC fans have argued the correct call was made and that the halftime commentators verified that the following week. That is not exactly what they said. It is a call rarely made because it is often hard to tell what angle the ball takes as it rolls out of bounds. Usually, we see it go pretty much laterally out of bounds. However, that ball just rocketed right out of Leinert's hands and hit the band members standing back behind the play, clearly as much of a case of a backwards fumble as one will ever see.

Oh well, sure hope Brady Quinn comes back next year. Now that guy looks promising for the NFL.

 

[Texan]

I think Quinn has to come back. Especially after their BCS loss, as well as their near loss to Stanford(!), he needs to return. Plus he clearly has great NFL potential that will be further developed and highlighted next year with Bush & Leinert losing games with (probably) the Texans and the Jets. From watching him, IMO, another year of football maturity (physically and mentally) will make him a top 5, probably top 3, pick.

 

[koooky]

Yes, clearly the spot of the ball itself on that last play was quite generous. The dumb luck aspect of it is that the hit put on Leinert was executed so well it knocked the ball right out of this hands, whereas had the not fumbled, the game was clearly over. The fact that Leinert even attempted to run that play into the endzone shows poor decision making on his part, and you can bet much more would have been made out of that had USC not escaped with the win. Then there is the fact that, from everything I understand and have heard, when the ball is fumbled backwards out of bounds--the clock continues to run. Clearly, the initial call was correct...students storm the field--the streak is over. Now, some USC fans have argued the correct call was made and that the halftime commentators verified that the following week. That is not exactly what they said. It is a call rarely made because it is often hard to tell what angle the ball takes as it rolls out of bounds. Usually, we see it go pretty much laterally out of bounds. However, that ball just rocketed right out of Leinert's hands and hit the band members standing back behind the play, clearly as much of a case of a backwards fumble as one will ever see.

Oh well, sure hope Brady Quinn comes back next year. Now that guy looks promising for the NFL.

AWESOME!!!

Another Irish fan here! I was just going to post a tirade about how their were people in the media bitching about the ref's ripping off USC but of course NONE of those folks were complaing when the bad calls werer going USC's way against ND.

Kook

 

[penguinsfan]

I think Quinn has to come back. Especially after their BCS loss, as well as their near loss to Stanford(!), he needs to return. Plus he clearly has great NFL potential that will be further developed and highlighted next year with Bush & Leinert losing games with (probably) the Texans and the Jets. From watching him, IMO, another year of football maturity (physically and mentally) will make him a top 5, probably top 3, pick.

Totally agree. Quinn can only get better with a another year of experience. There was a great deal of hype about Quinn when he came in as a fresHydromaxan, but this was the first year he really lived up to it bigtime. The only problem is the five guys blocking for him won't be back next year. I hope he can get an offensive line he's comfortable with.

 

[penguinsfan]

AWESOME!!!

Another Irish fan here! I was just going to post a tirade about how their were people in the media bitching about the ref's ripping off USC but of course NONE of those folks were complaing when the bad calls werer going USC's way against ND.

Yeah, I must confess to being a huge Irish fan. There seems to be a lot of animosity towards Notre Dame from some circles. Some in the media never cut them a break. I hear fans talking about an easy schedule, when their schedule is comparable to absolutely any team in the nation. I hear fans act like officials constantly give them favorable calls, when in reality as an independent team they as constantly at the mercy of various conference officials maintaining their objectivity. It never ends.

 

[millionman]

I know that the weak side tackle will be back next year. He's just Junior. I'm not sure about the other guys, but I know that the tailback will be coming back and at least two of the receivers will be back. Is the Tightend used very much in that offense, or is that just my misconception?