Can (ligament) stretching effect erect angle?

[FullBloodArab]

On the Net I've noticed that the ligaments are helpful with erect angle.

To tight ligaments (it's genetic) are causing an erection like those that their glans touches the belly (they mostly have pain during sex)

A loos weak ligament (it's genetic) causes a fully erect penis that isn't errected. (It stays pointing to the ground while errect) they mostly have problems slipping out of the vagina during sex.

I have a good straight forward angle when errect and it looks good for me. And I don't want this to get lost pointing down. Despite any gains, I don't want this.

But are the (firm/hardcore) stretching exercises ( for 1 year or more) effecting this? because I think the ligs are getting weaker. Thus the angle will change downwards?

The upcoming year a want to focus on length via extender (stretching the tunica) and girth, clamp jelq, (expending the tunica). When hitting a plateau with the tunica then I'll consider to get the gains out of my ligs. Via stretching and LM.

Because I'm careful now with especially the down the cheek stretches, and stretches where the stretchgrib is at the base and advanced hanging (hanging is mostly downward also) these 3 seem to target the ligaments directly

Any hardcore stretch veteran who've noticed an angle drop after this kind of PE?

 

[DLD]

It’s strange I’ve always done down word heavy work but I’ve only increased my erection angle it’s never lowered. This is why I never put stock in the lot theory because in my case it made no sense. As far as lot was concerned I could not make any more gains stretching downward. After I heard that i gained two more inches stretching downward! But through all that work my erection angle never dropped it actually went up a few degrees.

 

[FullBloodArab]

It’s strange I’ve always done down word heavy work but I’ve only increased my erection angle it’s never lowered. This is why I never put stock in the lot theory because in my case it made no sense. As far as lot was concerned I could not make any more gains stretching downward. After I heard that i gained two more inches stretching downward! But through all that work my erection angle never dropped it actually went up a few degrees.

Hmm I guess I'll do the lig thing when plateau is hit for every tunica exercise, still a long way though, year plus.

Thx dld

 

[DLD]

Hmm I guess I'll to the lig thing when plateau is hit for every tunica exercise, still a long way though, year plus.

Thx dld

Not a problem my brother. Don’t think of this as years or even months or even weeks, think of this in days. Whenever I worry too much about the future I become anxious and things don’t go as well as they should. Similarly when I think too much of the past I become depressed. But when I’m able to keep everything in the moment it’s all good. We need to learn how to relax and not think of things in such long periods, just be still and realize today is all you have. Tomorrow is not promised and you can’t change your past.

 

[sordidaffair]

It’s strange I’ve always done down word heavy work but I’ve only increased my erection angle it’s never lowered. This is why I never put stock in the lot theory because in my case it made no sense. As far as lot was concerned I could not make any more gains stretching downward. After I heard that i gained two more inches stretching downward! But through all that work my erection angle never dropped it actually went up a few degrees.

Dld thats exactly my experience! I have gained 1.4 inch in length only from simple downward stretching and fulcrum stretching also in downward direction and my erection angle never lowered.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Dld thats exactly my experience! I have gained 1.4 inch in length only from simple downward stretching and fulcrum stretching also in downward direction and my erection angle never lowered.

Well I think you're totally not helpfull for the PE world. You did your thing and stuff but never encouraged others and never posted your progress and exercises. And now you here saying you've gained 1.5inch from stretching.

It's your choice of course, but I don't pay attention to guys like you when I look for answers

 

[FullBloodArab]

Not a problem my brother. Don’t think of this as years or even months or even weeks, think of this in days. Whenever I worry too much about the future I become anxious and things don’t go as well as they should. Similarly when I think too much of the past I become depressed. But when I’m able to keep everything in the moment it’s all good. We need to learn how to relax and not think of things in such long periods, just be still and realize today is all you have. Tomorrow is not promised and you can’t change your past.

Exactly bro. But I mean I won't do it till all the gains came frome the tunica first (stretch tunica plateau for lenght like extending etc and expand tunica plateau for girth like jelq en clamp etc)

If that plateau is over 6 months or over 6 years, I won't do ligs before that, is what I meant

 

[Mike03016]

Dld thats exactly my experience! I have gained 1.4 inch in length only from simple downward stretching and fulcrum stretching also in downward direction and my erection angle never lowered.

Outstanding gains, congrats!
Thanks for the input and I am sure we all look forward to more information on your experiences.


Over half of my gains came from extenders and I still point straight up.

 

[sordidaffair]

Outstanding gains, congrats!
Thanks for the input and I am sure we all look forward to more information on your experiences.


Over half of my gains came from extenders and I still point straight up.

Thank you Mike i appreciate your support. I have post my progress in an other forum because there i discovered about PE. But i really like the brotherhood atmosphere that Dld and other guys have established here.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I only do downward stretches and prefer the lowest erection angle possible...walking slowly toward a woman with it swinging side-to-side

 

[DLD]

Dld thats exactly my experience! I have gained 1.4 inch in length only from simple downward stretching and fulcrum stretching also in downward direction and my erection angle never lowered.

From my first read through lot theory I knew it was incorrect as I was complete and absolute outlier. Being off that much made lot theory simply unbelievable for me. And then to go on and prove it to myself I gained two additional inches with all downward stretching. My erection angle today is about 10° better than it was when I started. So lot theory to me is a whole lot of bullshit

 

[FullBloodArab]

These are from an medical document which does NOT contain encourage operations. They contain 2 full erected penises

It's talking about how the penis works and what is done around the world for clients.

And the surgeon's out there are always helping the clients by ligament operations only. Noting else.

In the picture who's erection is downwards they always tilting the ligs up. Because the ligs where to loose

In the picture where the glans is at the belly then they cut the lig entirely and make a fake lig in a way that holds the right angle.because the ligs where to tight

In articles like these (and no laymen articles, it's not like I heard people talk about it in forums) I find it confused if I should target the ligs with hardcore stretchin for a year.

That's why I asked if there is anybody.

Dld's reply is that it doesn't. Thank you for that

But I always make a move when let's say 5 or 10 guys say so because PE Forums has 15.000 readers. I'll just wait if they come in this thread no matter how long, (because I do tunica PE only and that's more then a year work ☺) and say how there eretion angle was before (1year) of stretching work

 

[DLD]

These are from an medical document which does NOT contain encourage operations.

It's taking about how the penis works and what is done around the world for clients.

They are always helping the clients by ligament operations only. Noting else.

In the picture who's erecting is downwards they always tilting the ligs up.

In the picture where the glans is at the belly then they cut the lig entirely and make a fake lig in a way that holds the right angle.

In articles like these (and no laymen articles) I find it confused if I should target the ligs with hardcore stretchin for a year.

That's why I asked if there is anybody.

Dld's reply is that it doesn't. Thank you for that

But I always make a move when let's say 5 or 10 guys say so because PE Forums has 15.000 readers. I'll just wait if they come in this thread no matter how long, and say how there eretion angle was before (1year) of stretching work

Let me just make myself clear though with this new information. If you get your ligament cut by a surgeon your erection angle will be suffer. You can expect to lose up to 30 to 40° by having an your ligament cut

 

[FullBloodArab]

Let me just make myself clear though with this new information. If you get your ligament cut by a surgeon your erection angle will be suffer. You can expect to lose up to 30 to 40° by having an your ligament cut

More then that i think it will drop entirely,
With midshaft parallel with your body downwards. The blood isn't so strong to get it up to forward pointing it seems, when your genetic erection is pointing downwards.

I find it odd that the blood and the ligs contribute to the erection angle. I thought the blood does that

 

[DLD]

You would think so but there still is connective tissue to the pelvic floor muscles that will still hold part of the angle. But you’re gonna lose most of your erection angle if you have your ligament cut. DLD blasters were created so someone did not have to get the surgery. DLD blasters circumvent the ligament allowing you to stretch as if it was never there to begin with. And to the people that do not know DLD blasters methodology can be done with every stretch.

 

[FireBoner]

If I can throw my 2 cent here :
I'm part of the short ligament people wich put me with a high erection angle it look a bit like that curve (do not care about what the graphic is about )

And I feel like it a lowered a bit... let's say maybe 3-5° from stretching and forcing the jelqs not to follows the curve but making them into a straight line I just think it's not enough to make a point

But to be really usefull to this thread I shall return later on it.
Maybe in August... And I'll let you know if I notice some changes !

 

[FullBloodArab]

In the upward erection they've cut his ligs and replace it with a sort of fake lig, to create a lig that holds the penis horizontal.

I guess the patient always thought that the more blood the more his glans goes to his belly until full erection

But when they made the ligs not so tight, the erection filled with blood like before but just stopped horizontal? weird hahaha

 

[DLD]

That’s the best way to do it give it some time and see if things pan out. A lot of stuff in PE is testing and waiting, takes great patience to be a creator of exercise or tools as it takes much time to see if results will happen. So will keep this alive until you come back with some good results

 

[FullBloodArab]

If I can throw my 2 cent here :
I'm part of the short ligament people wich put me with a high erection angle it look a bit like that curve (do not care about what the graphic is about )

And I feel like it a lowered a bit... let's say maybe 3-5° from stretching and forcing the jelqs not to follows the curve but making them into a straight line I just think it's not enough to make a point

But to be really usefull to this thread I shall return later on it.
Maybe in August... And I'll let you know if I notice some changes !

I can live with a 3-5 drop. I'm straight forward now. But pointing to the ground or a 30 degree drop. Nope.

For you its okay and I wish you target the ligs with stretching expecially the base grip stretch. That seems to be a isolated ligs only exercise. More then midshaft or a grip at the glans stretching.

Maybe your angle will drop.

Even if it drops from a upward angle we will never know if this would occur with the penisses that have a horizontal angle either

Weird stuff

 

[DLD]

Yup, weird stuff indeed

 

[sordidaffair]

From my first read through lot theory I knew it was incorrect as I was complete and absolute outlier. Being off that much made lot theory simply unbelievable for me. And then to go on and prove it to myself I gained two additional inches with all downward stretching. My erection angle today is about 10° better than it was when I started. So lot theory to me is a whole lot of bullshit

Yes you were right back then. LOT theory is completely incorrect, its only a muscle-ligament connection and has nothing to do with gains. If someone have trained kegels for years, he can feel the pull-back in every direction due to the strong pelvic muscles.

Your choice back then to focus only in downward stretching was gold and it shows your understanding about PE. When it comes to penis stretching (manual, hanging, extender) the downward angle will always be the more effective because of how the tunica is build. The part of the tunica that we want to lengthen is the dorsal and thats from where the length gains come from, because thats where the Corpora cavernosa bodies are. The ventral side of the penis is more elastic and "it houses the corpus spongiosum, lacks outer bundles". Anatomy and strength of the tunica albuginea: its relevance to penile prosthesis extrusion. - PubMed - NCBI

So the direction that target the dorsal side better its definitely the downward. That does not mean that someone cant gain with upward stretches, but they are way less effective in my opinion.

 

[DLD]

Yes you were right back then. LOT theory is completely incorrect, its only a muscle-ligament connection and has nothing to do with gains. If someone have trained kegels for years, he can feel the pull-back in every direction due to the strong pelvic muscles.

Your choice back then to focus only in downward stretching was gold and it shows your perfect understanding about PE. When it comes to penis stretching (manual, hanging, extender) the downward angle will always be the more effective because of how the tunica is build. The part of the tunica that we want to lengthen is the dorsal amd thats from where the length gains come from, because thats where are the Corpora cavernosa bodies. The ventral side of the penis is more elastic and "it houses the corpus spongiosum, lacks outer bundles". Anatomy and strength of the tunica albuginea: its relevance to penile prosthesis extrusion. - PubMed - NCBI

So the direction that target the dorsal side better its definitely the downward. That does not mean that someone cant gain with upward stretches, but they are way less effective in my opinion.

Upward stretches can only be done with the Lankes master to be effective. Our hands will never be strong enough to stretch upward to make a difference so the LM gives that extra intensity necessary to stretch upward and actually affect the Tunica, which is what you’ll be affecting when stretching upward.

Another way to avoid stress and up word but still being able to gain in Tunica length is simply by doing bundled stretches.

 

[FullBloodArab]

I think the LM or a manual grip at the midshaft won't create this problem

But grip at the base and stretching the ligs are more involved it seems

A problem for me for you not (fireboner) because you want it to fall ☺ but my angle is a problem when falling.

(I'm talking about flaccid stretching buy the way)

I hope a "horizontal guy" comes and tell us what happened with his.

Dld already said it won't.

more guys please!! ☺

 

[DLD]

We need more people in the conversation!

 

[FireBoner]

I have a question for you FBA :
Are you sure high erection angle is genetic ?

Because I think it is my fault if I got one...Let me explain myself :
As far as I can remember I've always kept my flacid penis upward(toching the belly)
-when I slept
-even while wearing underwear ( don't ask me why I've always find it more confortable when I was a child)

And I believe all those years in this position built up to the erection angle I got today because I grew with this position
(I don't do all the things said upward anymore since 3 years only)

 

[FullBloodArab]

Yes you were right back then. LOT theory is completely incorrect, its only a muscle-ligament connection and has nothing to do with gains. If someone have trained kegels for years, he can feel the pull-back in every direction due to the strong pelvic muscles.

Your choice back then to focus only in downward stretching was gold and it shows your understanding about PE. When it comes to penis stretching (manual, hanging, extender) the downward angle will always be the more effective because of how the tunica is build. The part of the tunica that we want to lengthen is the dorsal and thats from where the length gains come from, because thats where the Corpora cavernosa bodies are. The ventral side of the penis is more elastic and "it houses the corpus spongiosum, lacks outer bundles". Anatomy and strength of the tunica albuginea: its relevance to penile prosthesis extrusion. - PubMed - NCBI

So the direction that target the dorsal side better its definitely the downward. That does not mean that someone cant gain with upward stretches, but they are way less effective in my opinion.

But what's your opinion on exercises that do get gains from the ligaments?

I my opinion I want to get gains from whats inside the whole tunica fascia and the albuginea and the blood chambers just stretching ANYTHING comes in my way ☺ every gain possible. And also girth wise.

See picture that I want to stretch the hell out of the 5 in the picture til plateau (or till gains are to slow)

And then I always thought I have to get some gains out of the ligaments to with stretching them so that the penis comes more visible and get another inch.

But I get worried when I start reading and in my mind the angle will drop. I prefer then to not get that inch.

So what exercises target the ligs? I myself think the stretching expecially the base grip flaccid exercises.

I don't mean stretching for fun or not often. Nothing will drop off course

I've always said 'one year hardcore stretching' because im from the hardcore targeting the penis without grace. I'm very mean to my penis not gentle. And that is what everybody should do.I'm now extending 2800g 5 hours a day. No fun I can tell you that.

Not pain but nearly pain is what should occur when doing PE.

So I need the hardcore PE folks that do their thing right, and daily.

Because I'm going for the ligs at a moment with hardcore style.

Because now I first want to 'destroy' the 5 in the picture with all sort of PE.

LIGIMANTS HERE I COME!!! ☺

But not yet

 

[DLD]

Oh boy, now it is on! Action! Popcorn ready ?

 

[FullBloodArab]

I have a question for you FBA :
Are you sure high erection angle is genetic ?

Because I think it is my fault if I got one...Let me explain myself :
As far as I can remember I've always kept my flacid penis upward(toching the belly)
-when I slept
-even while wearing underwear ( don't ask me why I've always find it more confortable when I was a child)

And I believe all those years in this position built up to the erection angle I got today because I grew with this position
(I don't do all the things said upward anymore since 3 years only)

As for if it is genetic:
I've had a friend that said he had that kind of boner from young age and always was so.

As for your upward pointing:

In the same article (i will post it for you) the person that had his penis erecting downwards and corrected to horizontally. The surgeons told him to wear tight underwear and point his penis upwards as often as he could.

I don't no anyway if that helped his angle I think the operation did the most work of course. But hey they told him ☺

 

[FullBloodArab]

I have a question for you FBA :
Are you sure high erection angle is genetic ?

Because I think it is my fault if I got one...Let me explain myself :
As far as I can remember I've always kept my flacid penis upward(toching the belly)
-when I slept
-even while wearing underwear ( don't ask me why I've always find it more confortable when I was a child)

And I believe all those years in this position built up to the erection angle I got today because I grew with this position
(I don't do all the things said upward anymore since 3 years only)

Here it is brother

I see it just says for 4 weeks. Maybe it has to do with the repair and healing, or maybe helping with the angle I dont know
Don't do the operation please he has a scar as large as his dick hahaha you dint want to see that picture ☺

Just try the base stretch

 

[FullBloodArab]

I have a question for you FBA :
Are you sure high erection angle is genetic ?

Because I think it is my fault if I got one...Let me explain myself :
As far as I can remember I've always kept my flacid penis upward(toching the belly)
-when I slept
-even while wearing underwear ( don't ask me why I've always find it more confortable when I was a child)

And I believe all those years in this position built up to the erection angle I got today because I grew with this position
(I don't do all the things said upward anymore since 3 years only)

And I do sleep with penis upward I sleep on my belly (half a belly that is not exactly flattened)

But wearing it upward in underwear also that's some hardcore dedication right there ☺. It could be that.

There's now way mankind will find that out hahaha as an experiment they ask people to wear upwards for 20 years hahahaha

So no one knows bro

 

[FullBloodArab]

I guess if I can't get good info I just target the ligament at a moment in PE.

And i just will pay good attention and measure the angle every two weeks if it drops

You guys ever saw measurements with a level?

Well you soon will ☺

THANK YOU GUYS FOR THINKING WITH ME
I appreciate your time and sorry for me bad English I'm Dutch

 

[FireBoner]

Here it is brother

I see it just says for 4 weeks. Maybe it has to do with the repair and healing, or maybe helping with the angle I dont know
Don't do the operation please he has a scar as large as his dick hahaha you dint want to see that picture ☺

Just try the base stretch

Thx for the screenshot !

 

[sordidaffair]

But what's your opinion on exercises that do get gains from the ligaments?

I my opinion I want to get gains from whats inside the whole tunica fascia and the albuginea and the blood chambers just stretching ANYTHING comes in my way ☺ every gain possible. And also girth wise.

See picture that I want to stretch the hell out of the 5 in the picture til plateau (or till gains are to slow)

And then I always thought I have to get some gains out of the ligaments to with stretching them so that the penis comes more visible and get another inch.

But I get worried when I start reading and in my mind the angle will drop. I prefer then to not get that inch.

So what exercises target the ligs? I myself think the stretching expecially the base grip flaccid exercises.

I don't mean stretching for fun or not often. Nothing will drop off course

I've always said 'one year hardcore stretching' because im from the hardcore targeting the penis without grace. I'm very mean to my penis not gentle. And that is what everybody should do.I'm now extending 2800g 5 hours a day. No fun I can tell you that.

Not pain but nearly pain is what should occur when doing PE.

So I need the hardcore PE folks that do their thing right, and daily.

Because I'm going for the ligs at a moment with hardcore style.

Because now I first want to 'destroy' the 5 in the picture with all sort of PE.

LIGIMANTS HERE I COME!!! ☺

But not yet

I know that many people will disagree with me and i dont want to come across as a smartass, i just express my opinion.

I believe that the reason why our erection angle has not change its because the ligaments gains are not erect gains. A bigger erection means simply a bigger tunica. I think that ligaments gains can only add half an inch to your flaccid hang. My flaccid hangs lower after all this stretching. Maybe to some people ligaments gains can change their erection angle and their exit point a little, but generally gains from ligaments are overrated. For example you will never gain 1 inch only from ligs gains, these type of gains are due to a longer tunica.

 

[FullBloodArab]

I know that many people will disagree with me and i dont want to come across as a smartass, i just express my opinion.

I believe that the reason why our erection angle has not change its because the ligaments gains are not erect gains. A bigger erection means simply a bigger tunica. I think that ligaments gains can only add half an inch to your flaccid hang. My flaccid hangs lower after all this stretching. Maybe to some people ligaments gains can change their erection angle and their exit point a little, but generally gains from ligaments are overrated. For example you will never gain 1 inch only from ligs gains, these type of gains are due to a longer tunica.

Oké

You said 'our'. Are you of those that did the hardcore stretching for a year minimum? (Let's say 1,5 or 2h a day)

 

[sordidaffair]

Oké

You said 'our'. Are you of those that did the hardcore stretching for a year minimum? (Let's say 1,5 or 2h a day)

At first i stretched for 20-30 mins max every day and i made amazing newbie gains. I gained my first inch in 6 months and then gains become slower. My starting size was 6.5 bpel and i hit a plateau at 7.5 bpel. Then i increased the total stretching time every day to 60-80 mins. My goal was to reach 5 hours or more under stretching tension every week. I dont pull very hard, i keep the force moderate but I can hold every stretch for 5 up to 10 mins. Now i am 7.9 bpel and i have gained 1.4 inch in 18 months.

 

[FullBloodArab]

At first i stretched for 20-30 mins max every day and i made amazing newbie gains. I gained my first inch in 6 months and then gains become slower. My starting size was 6.5 bpel and i hit a plateau at 7.5 bpel. Then i increased the total stretching time every day to 60-80 mins. My goal was to reach 5 hours or more under stretching tension every week. I dont pull very hard, i keep the force moderate but I can hold every stretch for 5 up to 10 mins. Now i am 7.9 bpel and i have gained 1.4 inch in 18 months.

Only manual stretch caused 2,5inch in 2 years that's fantastic man!

How old are you and did the stretching grib occurred mostly at half shaft or base or at the glans?

 

[sordidaffair]

Only manual stretch caused 2,5inch in 2 years that's fantastic man!

How old are you and did the stretching grib occurred mostly at half shaft or base or at the glans?

Not 2.5 inches, 1.4 inch gain so far. I went from 6.5 to 7.9 bpel.

I am in my mid-twenties. I grip at the glans, thats the more efficient way to stretch the whole shaft and the tension is transferred better.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Not 2.5 inches, 1.4 inch gain so far. I went from 6.5 to 7.9 bpel.

I am in my mid-twenties. I grip at the glans, thats the more efficient way to stretch the whole shaft and the tension is transferred better.

Sorry i did read it wrong.

So 1inch the first 6months and 0.4inch 12 months after that.

I did the base grib flaccid stretch downwards just now and I felt that if you grab the base there is non force on the tunica. The tunica stays 'flaccid' no force and the tunics won't create (micro)damage

With my other hand I felt the tunica and grabbed the tunica with my 2 fingers.

But all the force is created in the surrounding of the pubic bone and skin etc in that area.

Also if you grab at the base flaccid (I did it again right now) the grib is going towards the glans and piles up the skin to the glans.

If you grib your glans and stretch immediately you can feel it in the tunica

So where did the gains come from if the base grib downwards stretch isn't effecting the tunica. (I did it again just now) no tunics involvement.

Your tunica gets involved? My not what's going on

 

[stillwantmore]

Well I think you're totally not helpfull for the PE world. You did your thing and stuff but never encouraged others and never posted your progress and exercises. And now you here saying you've gained 1.5inch from stretching.

It's your choice of course, but I don't pay attention to guys like you when I look for answers

Please don't be condescending to someone offering their feedback just because it doesn't suit you.

 

[stillwantmore]

I have done all of my weight hanging so far with only downward angles. With a 2 inch length gain and no lowering of erection angle.

 

[DLD]

I have done all of my weight hanging so far with only downward angles. With a 2 inch length gain and no lowering of erection angle.

Basic into the point and completely correct. I guess when you become a veteran simplicity becomes her best friend!

 

[FullBloodArab]

Please don't be condescending to someone offering their feedback just because it doesn't suit you.

How should I let someone know that I don't take from persons who's history is not known?

 

[FullBloodArab]

I have done all of my weight hanging so far with only downward angles. With a 2 inch length gain and no lowering of erection angle.

I guess you hanged with the attachment under the glans? If so then this isn't a lig exercise perse. Its sort of extending downwards. Or hanging where with cable and weight is put over a door for example and hanging upwards. Correct me if I'm wrong when it isn't the same as an extender upwards with high force

 

[DLD]

How should I let someone know that I don't take from persons who's history is not known?

Take all advice and apply what applies and what does not apply let go of. How are you test the history of the user is by their gains and their progress threads. Stillwantmore has an extensive history and is really only here to help. We are all brothers of the same family and although sometimes we can come off as being uncompassionate but I understand we are typing we’re not talking face-to-face so much to be lost in that medium. I can tell you that the advice that you get from the legends here is going to be solid advice.

 

[FullBloodArab]

Take all advice and apply what applies and what does not apply let go of. How are you test the history of the user is by their gains and their progress threads. Stillwantmore has an extensive history and is really only here to help. We are all brothers of the same family and although sometimes we can come off as being uncompassionate but I understand we are typing we’re not talking face-to-face so much to be lost in that medium. I can tell you that the advice that you get from the legends here is going to be solid advice.

That's right I only ask when the person is known

I won't go to the carpenter to ask for my teeth.

Stillwantmore and guys like you is what I need correct

 

[stillwantmore]

Hanging downward and especially between the cheeks hits the main ligaments at the base of the penis. Hanging upward usually hits the ligaments under the scrotum.

 

[stillwantmore]

Well another approach then, is to just ignore rather than reply to people you disagree with.

 

[DLD]

That's right I only ask when the person is known

I won't go to the carpenter to ask for my teeth.

Stillwantmore and guys like you is what I need correct

That’s it my brother and if you stick around long enough you’ll be one of those legends. We’re talking about guys who have been here for 17 years. All of the legends and up on the island of misfit toys that we know so dearly as the brotherhood.

 

[sordidaffair]

Guys i just wanted to share my thoughts and give some feedback. I have done a lot of research about PE, penis anatomy and i have read a lot of progress threads from people who have made big gains.

I honestly want to help if i can, i have not bad intentions.

 

[DLD]

Guys i just wanted to share my thoughts and give some feedback. I have done a lot of research about PE, penis anatomy and i have read a lot of progress threads from people who have made big gains.

I honestly want to help if i can, i have not bad intentions.

Please give us your opinion and join in on the conversation. If I say I’m gonna get some popcorn it only means that I’m gonna sit back and read what you guys say. So get involved don’t worry about intentions were brothers here we love each other equally