boss1475: Limits on gains?

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boss1475

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Do you guys think there are limits to what one person can gain?

I started my PE journey March of 2022 at 5" BP and 4" EG. Today I measure 7" BP but my natural erection without any work outs prior is around 6.5". I seem to be stuck here though. I don't seem to getting past the 7" mark.

Since I started I've used the PeniMaster. I am currently doing a 500 hour challenge that I started around Christmas (I'm 25% of the way) to see where I was at the beginning vs. End. I wear it at least 2 hours a day, weekends I'm getting 3 or 4 hours a day in. Thats mixed with manual stretches but nothing really consistent and then usually a 5x5x2 or 5x5x3 with a pump in the shower each night

I've started to ramp up the intensity lately which caused some slight bruising on the gland but I'm wondering do I keep pushing this intensity to break this 7"? Will what I've been doing finally break past it also and I just need more patience? Or have I gone as far as I can?
 
Looks like I will be there with you sooner or later. My first barrier was at 5.5 BP based on my physiology. I know my oddball limits every 1 to 1.5in and I have to be more aggressive with my routine soon.

As @DLD went through that barrier of growth at 8in, he used the Length Master with more aggressive approaches. Looks like you're ahead compared to the most of us in terms of hitting that growth limit barrier. Do know that aggressive approach to break the barrier at the longer length can be daunting.

Do know that there is no limit. It takes time for your soft muscles, nerves, and veins and urology pathways to catch up with constant growth. Those who pursued for more with diligence will grow more. One of the guys I know now have a cassava root growing between his groin.
 
boss1475 said:
I've been considering the Lengthmaster 3 just haven't pulled the trigger.

And I do not fully understand the bundle stretching. Is it basically all the same stretching directions except for adding the twisting?
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Yes! You stretch your penis bundled, you will elongate and deform more tissue faster, and you will grow faster as well. When using LengthMaster 3 it's insane the growth and the intensity you can have.

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boss1475 said:
Right on! I was just thinking I can do this with the penimaster until the Lengthmaster 3 comes in because I can twist the penis before latching it to the frame.
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Better to use a broomstick.
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Update: I have finally hit the 7" mark BPEL now at 7.2". I have added manual bundle stretching to my routine as well as a more consistent 5x5x3 routine which has push my girth up to a mor consistent 5". Still pushing for the 500 hours on the Penimaster. I happen to go through my phone yesterday and found an old picture of pumping and compared to yesterday's pump and could tell a big difference. Possibly adding LM3 soon and push for 8". I was glad I run across the picture because I hadn't felt like I'd gained much since I started regardless of the measurements.
 

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Make sure to retrofit a gauge for the pump. As your tissues grow, your adaption to higher pressure also become numb to the warning bells. Know your current lower comfortable baseline and upper pressure zone you're entering into. Air is more forgiving, bit too high will send you to a place of regrets.
 
Currently my first 5 minutes is at 5 HG the next 5 minutes is about 7 and I do an all out at 10 HG for the last 5 and sometimes will back it back down to 7 if it's to intense. Should I do that any different?
 
I'm on a 5 year Journey. With the first 3 years being growth, year 1 so far has been amazing, see my stats. I honestly don't think you should think about limits until year 4. This is sometimes a roller coaster and with just year 1 it is not enough time to be thinking in terms of limits.
 
boss1475 said:
Currently my first 5 minutes is at 5 HG the next 5 minutes is about 7 and I do an all out at 10 HG for the last 5 and sometimes will back it back down to 7 if it's to intense. Should I do that any different?
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My suggestion is to gauge your upper limit pressure. If you creep up to 10inHg and still feel comfortable for 2 while minutes without letting the pressure go down, you are golden. For the second set of pumping, go 5inHg at the start for 1 minute, 7inHg for 1 minute, 10iHg for 2 minutes, and back to 1 minute. Do the same for third pumping. If there is no discomfort at all for the next week, do this for the following week:

First pumping set:
5 inHg for 2 minutes
7inHg for 2 minutes
5inHg for 1 minute, then SSJ

Second pumping set:
5 inHg for 1 minute
10 inHg for 3 minutes
7 inHg for minute, then SSJ

Third set is the same.

You are doing expressive pumping to push past the barrier and into the next growth phase. This is the upper pumping phase that the manufacturers failed to provide as it exceeds the body normal limits by 3 times. This is to mirror the 2.5lbs to 2.8lbs of traction force against the penile tissues for optimal growth. This is the magic zone.
 
bemorethanbig said:
I'm on a 5 year Journey. With the first 3 years being growth, year 1 so far has been amazing, see my stats. I honestly don't think you should think about limits until year 4. This is sometimes a roller coaster and with just year 1 it is not enough time to be thinking in terms of limits.
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Most forums and brothers out there believe they reached their growth limits after the 9 months or so. They don't understand the plateaus they reached. The body will adapt and adopt ways to resist growth past the adolescent years. We just need to revise the methods of approach and trick it.

PE journey is truly a lifelong journey. Growth is based on how we force our intensions for the body to proceed. But as males, we need to upkeep our sexual organ. Just like females upkeep their breasts, butts, and face, we need to do the same with our own youthful (or erectile) routines.
 
There is no limits. The fact that I had no plateaus for 1 year doing lengthwork proves this fact.
The intensity needs to be optimized to your body abilities to heal and grow tissue, in response to the programming you are doing.

But as you grow bigger it will take more effort and time to grow tissue, it's an exponential curve in growth that levels out with time. So it will take more effort in order to keep growing at the same rate. When you are big enough this process of leveling out (the speed of growth) in speed of gains will happen, if you want it to happen or not.

But you can postpone this leveling out with technics that involves optimization of healing and intensity.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
There is no limits. The fact that I had no plateaus for 1 year doing lengthwork proves this fact.
The intensity needs to be optimized to your body abilities to heal and grow tissue, in response to the programming you are doing.

But as you grow bigger it will take more effort and time to grow tissue, it's an exponential curve in growth that levels out with time. So it will take more effort in order to keep growing at the same rate. When you are big enough this process of leveling out (the speed of growth) in speed of gains will happen, if you want it to happen or not.

But you can postpone this leveling out with technics that involves optimization of healing and intensity.
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I agree! You look huge in comparison pictures I mean really incredible 😲
 
oldandlively said:
My suggestion is to gauge your upper limit pressure. If you creep up to 10inHg and still feel comfortable for 2 while minutes without letting the pressure go down, you are golden. For the second set of pumping, go 5inHg at the start for 1 minute, 7inHg for 1 minute, 10iHg for 2 minutes, and back to 1 minute. Do the same for third pumping. If there is no discomfort at all for the next week, do this for the following week:

First pumping set:
5 inHg for 2 minutes
7inHg for 2 minutes
5inHg for 1 minute, then SSJ

Second pumping set:
5 inHg for 1 minute
10 inHg for 3 minutes
7 inHg for minute, then SSJ

Third set is the same.

You are doing expressive pumping to push past the barrier and into the next growth phase. This is the upper pumping phase that the manufacturers failed to provide as it exceeds the body normal limits by 3 times. This is to mirror the 2.5lbs to 2.8lbs of traction force against the penile tissues for optimal growth. This is the magic zone.
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oldandlively said:
My suggestion is to gauge your upper limit pressure. If you creep up to 10inHg and still feel comfortable for 2 while minutes without letting the pressure go down, you are golden. For the second set of pumping, go 5inHg at the start for 1 minute, 7inHg for 1 minute, 10iHg for 2 minutes, and back to 1 minute. Do the same for third pumping. If there is no discomfort at all for the next week, do this for the following week:

First pumping set:
5 inHg for 2 minutes
7inHg for 2 minutes
5inHg for 1 minute, then SSJ

Second pumping set:
5 inHg for 1 minute
10 inHg for 3 minutes
7 inHg for minute, then SSJ

Third set is the same.

You are doing expressive pumping to push past the barrier and into the next growth phase. This is the upper pumping phase that the manufacturers failed to provide as it exceeds the body normal limits by 3 times. This is to mirror the 2.5lbs to 2.8lbs of traction force against the penile tissues for optimal growth. This is the magic zone.
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What kind of goal am I going for here. Am I sticking with this daily for several weeks? Should I be trying to increase each set?
 
Stick to the routine for a week. If you can feel you can go tiny bit more for time, or sets, or go a bit higher in intensity, keep going. Your body will let you know. Your call to keep going or not.
 
oldandlively said:
Let's create a quick adjustment to observe. The 2 minutes at 10inHg may be the cause. Let's do a dynamic pressuring to see if it works.

2 min at 5inHg
1 min at 8inHg
2 min at 6inHg
SSJ for 7 mins to increase internal size

1 min at 5inHg
1 min at 7inHg
1 min at 10inHg (this creates a dynamic pressure expansion without pushing at edema zone)
1 min at 7inHg
1 min at 10inHg
SSJ up 10 mins (around 7 min mark is good as well) to maintain internal size and remove excess fluid build up.

1 min at 6inHg
1 min at 7inHg
1 min at 8inHg (this creates a dynamic pressure expansion without pushing at edema zone)
1 min at 7inHg
1 min at 6inHg (cool down pressurizing)
SSJ up 10 mins (around 6 min mark is good as well) remove excess fluid build up.

Report back on this after 2 sessions. We'll come up with additional methods of approach. By the way, why not create a Progress and Routine log page for yourself so we can keep all this info together?.
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@oldandlively

Alright so this has been where most of my updates have been posted. I'm not sure if i should start a new one or can get it moved.

But anyway I've tried the new routine. Definitely less edema now however I'm not getting any expansion. What I measure at the beginning I'm measuring the the end of the session. Is that normal?
 
boss1475 said:
Alright so this has been where most of my updates have been posted. I'm not sure if i should start a new one or can get it moved.
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I moved your thread to the Routine and Progress to keep your logs.

boss1475 said:
But anyway I've tried the new routine. Definitely less edema now however I'm not getting any expansion. What I measure at the beginning I'm measuring the the end of the session. Is that normal?
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Yes. This is a pressure peridynamics shift. What you saw earlier was based on edema girth (bloated fluid) and not internal expansion. Be a bit patient and you will see it soon. Tell us more on what you experienced: more solid feel? thicker and harder? stronger EQ? any discoloration? longer flaccid state time. We'll improve your directional routine.
 
oldandlively said:
I moved your thread to the Routine and Progress to keep your logs.


Yes. This is a pressure peridynamics shift. What you saw earlier was based on edema girth (bloated fluid) and not internal expansion. Be a bit patient and you will see it soon. Tell us more on what you experienced: more solid feel? thicker and harder? stronger EQ? any discoloration? longer flaccid state time. We'll improve your directional routine.
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Yes give us all the
information asked for by @oldandlively. This will really help us help you. Looking forward to your data.
 
Honestly I felt the same as when I started. I was red but not bruised. Coming out of the pump I wasn't as hard as going in. I struggle to maintain a solid erection the whole time without p**n which I try to limit.

I will say this morning I did that routine with warm water. I was more bruised looking coming out and slight edema but both went away almost instantly once I start the SSJ session. I didnt seem to hold a much harder erection the whole time and after end I wore a c ring almost all day and felt like I was packing a hammer around all day. I did experience some slight stings for lack of better explanation through the day but they weren't painful. More like I could tell I'd worked out.

I take 1 1000mg pill of l arg and l citrulline mix and Tadalifil daily for what that's worth.

Also I'd add I am still working on length as well.
 
SSJ really do help eliminating edema and they seriously increase girth in the fastest way especially the 5x5x3 found in SRT. Pumping requires adjustments during the whole time you are using a pump. I always suggest people use SRT in whole or part. Glad to hear your cock felt like a 🔨 hammer.
 
@DLD On the SSJ should I be trying to compress the inner stiffness or am I focusing on the outside fatty tissue? Hopefully that makes sense. Because I generally to compress much more once I feel the inner stiffness pushing against me
 
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boss1475 said:
Honestly I felt the same as when I started. I was red but not bruised. Coming out of the pump I wasn't as hard as going in. I struggle to maintain a solid erection the whole time without p**n which I try to limit.
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Got in. This means your cavernosa (blood chambers) already reached their current limits. time to slowdown and ease up little by little on the pressure.

boss1475 said:
I will say this morning I did that routine with warm water. I was more bruised looking coming out and slight edema but both went away almost instantly once I start the SSJ session. I didnt seem to hold a much harder erection the whole time and after end I wore a c ring almost all day and felt like I was packing a hammer around all day. I did experience some slight stings for lack of better explanation through the day but they weren't painful. More like I could tell I'd worked out.
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This confirms your limits.

boss1475 said:
I take 1 1000mg pill of l arg and l citrulline mix and Tadalifil daily for what that's worth.

Also I'd add I am still working on length as well.
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Great on supplements and nitric oxide loading. But, work on the length but ease up the pressure for one to two weeks. Allow the internal tissues to reset and repair a bit more during your usual routines. You are outpacing your capacity to heal properly. I'll add more info later when I come out of fever.
 
I was actually just wondering that. I'm currently going 3 to 4 days and off 1.

No worries hope you get to feeling better soon.

When you do get back. When you say ease up you mean just give girth work a break all together or still do it but keep it low at like 5hg?
 
boss1475 said:
I was actually just wondering that. I'm currently going 3 to 4 days and off 1.
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Good pattern. Only reduce if you see a stress where you see more shrinkage or "tug back".

boss1475 said:
When you do get back. When you say ease up you mean just give girth work a break all together or still do it but keep it low at like 5hg?
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Yes. Give girth a break, but not completely off. Just ease it back to the starting growth zone at 5inHg. this is to prevent girth shift (some called it a girth loss) to length instead. It still maintain good girth size, promotes cell expansion, but at a lower rate, and assists with length growth.
 
boss1475 said:
@DLD On the SSJ should I be trying to compress the inner stiffness or am I focusing on the outside fatty tissue? Hopefully that makes sense. Because I generally to compress much more once I feel the inner stiffness pushing against me
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You want to grip with intensity to include all of penis If too light you will not see the expansion that makes the SSJ so great. Are you using the 5x5x3 in your training?
 
DLD said:
You want to grip with intensity to include all of penis If too light you will not see the expansion that makes the SSJ so great. Are you using the 5x5x3 in your training?
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I am. However I believe I may have been to light on the SSJ all this time. I'm gripping at the base pretty good but during the squash I don't really push much.

Update though. Only pumped 3 times in the last 9 days and kept it around 5 and 6hg. Kept up with my length work. I still battle the edema even with wearing the Penimaster but it seems to be residing quickly with a warm cloth after. I did or some penis caps and sleeves to try out.

I only measure once monthly so I don't know that it's measurable gains yet, but I believe with the extra healing I have felt thicker the last day or two now. Hoping to be able to ramp up pumping after another week of healing.
 
boss1475 said:
I am. However I believe I may have been to light on the SSJ all this time. I'm gripping at the base pretty good but during the squash I don't really push much.

Update though. Only pumped 3 times in the last 9 days and kept it around 5 and 6hg. Kept up with my length work. I still battle the edema even with wearing the Penimaster but it seems to be residing quickly with a warm cloth after. I did or some penis caps and sleeves to try out.

I only measure once monthly so I don't know that it's measurable gains yet, but I believe with the extra healing I have felt thicker the last day or two now. Hoping to be able to ramp up pumping after another week of healing.
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Don't fear going hard with SSJ. Push the intensity between both hands. If too much just go a bit lighter. Be sure to use the 5x5x3 training as it will only promote more growth.
 
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