I really gotta get rid of this beer gut. Even if my dick didn't grow, it'd look twice as big if I was back to my usual skinny self haha. I was thinking though, I'm working 9 hour days, drive an hour each day, then make something to eat and get ready for the next day. That leaves 4 hours to lift weights and do pe. How do you guys manage your time?
Anyone Bodybuild Too?
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There are a number of ways....
I started easy, I kept my workouts under 30 minutes and just three days a week.
This worked great, down the road I have upped things but it only happened because I started easy.
You can also do kettlebells for 20 min three days a week if core is your main goal.
Also check out Stillwantmore’s threads (hopefully he will chime in also).
I started easy, I kept my workouts under 30 minutes and just three days a week.
This worked great, down the road I have upped things but it only happened because I started easy.
You can also do kettlebells for 20 min three days a week if core is your main goal.
Also check out Stillwantmore’s threads (hopefully he will chime in also).
Yea a little something is better than nothing, but I'm going to need to get up to an hour of hard work to get this big ass beer belly off. I swear to God I'm shaped like the Grinch now ?
LMFAO on the Grinch visual.
There are so many different ways to do this, go super old school and go all Joe Weider but this is more of a full body routine with waist size coming down do to much greater calorie burn.
I honestly think you could never go over 30 minutes (and for the first six weeks stay at 20 min and develop a great habit) and have a sick kettlebell routine that will super improve cardio, burn large amounts of calories (way more then running or treadmills), and focus on your core.
Once you get the core improvement then moving to a full body workout could be next but that would be a decision down the road.
D$, you have this.
It is way more doable then you may be thinking and you will be geeked about it within a month.
There are so many different ways to do this, go super old school and go all Joe Weider but this is more of a full body routine with waist size coming down do to much greater calorie burn.
I honestly think you could never go over 30 minutes (and for the first six weeks stay at 20 min and develop a great habit) and have a sick kettlebell routine that will super improve cardio, burn large amounts of calories (way more then running or treadmills), and focus on your core.
Once you get the core improvement then moving to a full body workout could be next but that would be a decision down the road.
D$, you have this.
It is way more doable then you may be thinking and you will be geeked about it within a month.
Hey Dmoney,
If your goal is to cut fat rather than gain muscle, you probably don't need to set aside workout time to do it. It would help, it would speed the process up, and you should definitely stay active for other reasons, but most people can control body composition just by controlling diet. I have no idea what your diet is like, but if you need to reduce calories then you might actually SAVE time while cutting weight!
In fact, if time is a big thing for you then you might look into something called "Intermittent Fasting." It's worked very well for a lot of people AND as a lifestyle it's a big time saver. Your body might not respond like others, as with any diet, but if it works for you I think it's exactly what you're looking for.
If your goal is to cut fat rather than gain muscle, you probably don't need to set aside workout time to do it. It would help, it would speed the process up, and you should definitely stay active for other reasons, but most people can control body composition just by controlling diet. I have no idea what your diet is like, but if you need to reduce calories then you might actually SAVE time while cutting weight!
In fact, if time is a big thing for you then you might look into something called "Intermittent Fasting." It's worked very well for a lot of people AND as a lifestyle it's a big time saver. Your body might not respond like others, as with any diet, but if it works for you I think it's exactly what you're looking for.
Are used to own a gym and believe it or not I was a massive dude! Wish I had pictures. Bodybuilding is great but it takes the same type of commitment that PE teachers. I hope someday to get back in the gym just to get myself in decent shape as I’m getting older.
stillwantmore
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For the average busy Joe/Jane, there's not so much a priority to exercise for body fat loss. It's mostly about controlling what you stuff in your face. You're in complete control of that every day. I've gone from a 34 inch waist, "love handles" and no abs down to a 29 inch waist, no love handles and my abs looking better than when I was 19 and in the Marines just in the last several months. I'm 40 now.
No exercise (yet). Just dropping most refined foods, sugars, most bread, and actually knowing my calorie count most days. I don't usually drink alcohol. If I want a "good time" I take some kratom. No excess calories I don't need, or negative side effects.
I do intend to get back into an exercise routine this year based around body weight training, kettle bells, dumb bells and such.
No exercise (yet). Just dropping most refined foods, sugars, most bread, and actually knowing my calorie count most days. I don't usually drink alcohol. If I want a "good time" I take some kratom. No excess calories I don't need, or negative side effects.
I do intend to get back into an exercise routine this year based around body weight training, kettle bells, dumb bells and such.
The way my bills are split, my roommate buys the food and it's all trash. Plus my beer consumption doesn't help, but most of all I need to get stronger and bigger. Going on a strict diet like that is gonna kill me haha.
I use kratom too BTW. Helped me get off fentanyl and deal with daily pain.
I need both. Fatty beer gut had to go, but so do my twig legs and arms. It's hard to do leg workouts from where I got shot but I know I can do it. And yea I've heard of intermittent fasting. I only eat once for twice in the day as it is. I picked that up because I wanted to ordain as a Buddhist monk.
Far out!
Okay, so you want to do two things: burn fat AND build muscle. Diet is still your #1 first thing to knock out of the park. I'm going to talk to you about diet and exercise both.
DIET
This needs to end. The diet aspect isn't just sufficient for losing weight, it's necessary. Not only that, it's necessary for building muscle as well. Every time you drink beer, you're drinking that instead of water/protein shake/milk etc. Every time you eat junk food, you're eating that instead of veggies. Garbage in = garbage out.
Allow me to hammer this point home: if the calories you take in are low quality, then it doesn't matter if you keep the calories down, intermittently fast, and hit the gym every day. You will not build muscle, and you will not burn fat. You need to end the arrangement with your roommate YESTERDAY.
And this stuff doesn't just make it harder to reach your goals. You're not just losing opportunities to eat and drink the things you really need to get what you want. You're paying for the privilege!!
For instance, I like Blue Moon. If I drink less than 1 bottle a day, I could get by on a 6 pack each week. Let's say I find a great deal somewhere and I can get that for $7. That's $7 each week for beer. At the end of that year, I'm out $364. Instead of spending that $364 hurting myself, I could have saved it and bought some fitness equipment. $364 will get me a set of Power Blocks up to 50lbs each with cash to spare! I could invest in resistance bands, higher quality food, whatever! I could get a Phallosan! And all of this is a very conservative estimate. Do the math for yourself and see how much you're spending to make your life harder!
EXERCISE
Have you ever worked out before? An underlying assumption that I want to challenge is this 'lifting weights' bit. Depending on where you're at with your muscle development, as well as your specific goals, you may not need that now or ever. Calisthenics can get you GREAT results, while saving time and money.
Speaking of specific goals, what are yours? Do you want to be big like a bodybuilder, or would big like a gymnast be fine? (You want to be Arnold or Bruce Lee?) More specific than that would be even better. (E.g. I want to be able to do 20 pullups, or I want to be 180lbs at 8% body fat).
I'm about 160 lbs, but my body fat is very low, so I look plenty muscular despite my smaller size. More of a Bruce Lee than a Schwarzenegger. If you want to get bodybuilder big, then weights are definitely in your future (though even then you probably won't need them to start out). If you just want to look cut and fantastic, though, you can do that purely with calisthenics. That saves you time and money. All you need is a doorway pullup-bar. $20. Work out from home.
I can give more specific advice and point you towards some good resources with more info.
You mean you've been shot in the leg and have an injury still?? If so, you need to talk to a doctor and a personal trainer who can review the specifics of your situation and give you advice. Don't gamble with your body!
Here are your IMMEDIATE action steps:
- Room mate does not control your diet. Make a new arrangement.
- Reduce or (preferably) eliminate alcohol. Water is your friend. This will also help keep your EQ top notch.
- Let me know about your specific goals and history.
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stillwantmore
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Awesome advice! There's a lot of misinformation in society about this sort of stuff and all it does is perpetuate the misinformation. Often, lining the pockets of people selling you more misinformation. The next secret for this or that problem in your life. I feel from my own experience, most guys would be best served learning to eat properly and the basics about physical fitness. Unless a guy is genuinely wanting to pursue a career in bodybuilding, it's a waste of time and resources for most. It's also a LOT MORE work and time eating than most realize it is once you do start to pack on more muscle. Life literally becomes being completely focused about your next workout, your next personal record on whatever "lift", your next meal, how much of this or that macronutrient and on and on.
It's much simpler and satisfying to me at least, to know I'm reversing poor decisions I've made with how I used to treat my body in the past. I'm also likely saving myself from diseases that many people consider "normal" parts of aging, thousands in future medical expenses I won't have, etc. I see so many people daily in my line of work at my current job who are often quite younger than me and look just horrible for their age.
Alright, off the pedestal.
It's much simpler and satisfying to me at least, to know I'm reversing poor decisions I've made with how I used to treat my body in the past. I'm also likely saving myself from diseases that many people consider "normal" parts of aging, thousands in future medical expenses I won't have, etc. I see so many people daily in my line of work at my current job who are often quite younger than me and look just horrible for their age.
Alright, off the pedestal.
stillwantmore
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For some reason it split off when I moved it. It's fixed.
Holy crap. THIS! Yes, beware the fitness industry. It is the Mos Eisley of all industries. "Get ripped in 5 minutes a day! Only 10 payments of $99.99!" Bullshit and bullshit.
StillWant bring up another excellent point about the time requirements. If you are thinking of trying to get really big, the eating and sleeping aspect will be the really limiting factor... Everybody thinks about the workouts, but the eating regimen is the craziest. That takes dedication. We're talking 7,000 - 9,000 carefully planned and scheduled calories every day for the freak pros. I once had dreams of getting 'big,' and set myself a modest goal of 3,000 calories per day. AIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT!!
Fine I'll just stay cut and pretend online that I look anything like Bruce Lee. (My kingdom for those lats!)Suffice it to say, the fasting will be fine if you just want to get shredded, but you'll have to abandon it and start planning your day around eating if you want to get really big. The ladies tend to prefer "ripped" to "swole" anyway, so that's definitely the best bang for your buck.
Don't be modest, Still... first and foremost you're looking fantastic these days! Not only that, but working out is a great way to preserve fluid intelligence as you age.
Same here. I just need a buddy! I have no friends but online
That would be awesome if I had a friend nearby to help me. I have no friends out here but then again I don’t really leave my house except if I have to. It be so cool to have a workout buddy to keep me accountable. Someone who will bang on the door in the morning and say get your ass out of bed!
Yo D$, where are you at with this? What are you thinking of doing?
Man, losing alcohol completely would be a bitch, but I smoke enough that I could do it. But dropping all carbs is so hard. I've started taking the bread of sandwiches and shit like that but not being able to eat tortillas is soul crushing hahaha
I definitely need to start lifting weights. I might sign up with planet fitness since most the people in there are in bad shape like me. Always hated going to gyms cause they're filled with people twice my size and I'm self conscious about how weak I am lol. As I start saving up money I'm going to be buying more food to cook instead of all the cheap trash I've been eating since I've been out of work.
1) When you say you smoke, are we talking tobacco or pot? If the former... ditch that garbage ASAP as well! Better for your heart, lungs, circulation, EQ, and ability to build muscle and burn fat. You'll feel really fuckin dumb if you wind up with throat cancer because of that stuff. More importantly, you'll have cancer. Pot's not as bad, although many people find that makes it harder to feed themselves intelligently.
2) With dietary advice, don't feel like you have to pick something specific that works for one person and just do that or be unhealthy. Some people need to ditch carbs. They get great results doing that. (StillWant sure did!) I'm a pretty hard gainer, so I can't seem to make myself fat even if I try, but if I'm trying to build muscle I need all the fat and carbs and protein I can stuff down my face. Some people get deathly ill if they eat gluten, others don't have a problem. I can inhale dairy all day long, but if my wife tries it her GI tract revolts. Experiment and see what your body responds to! I have yet to meet the person who doesn't benefit from eliminating alcohol and sugars, though.
1) Do you need to start lifting weights? We haven't established that! Go check out Frank Medrano, Chris Heria, or Austin Dunham on youtube. These guys are calisthenics specialists... and they are ripped to pieces. None of those guys are worried about going into a serious gym. Hell, Medrano rolls with CT himself!
2) But let's say you really want to join a gym. I've been inside a few Planet Fitnesses myself, and I've noticed the same thing you did. Everyone in there is flabby and weak. Now... what does that tell you about Planet Fitness? All of those flabby weak people made the decision to enroll at Planet Fitness, where a literal alarm goes off when people are working hard... and they're still flabby and weak. What makes you think your results will be different?
I'm going to take your thinking here and apply it to the PE world so you can see how counterproductive it is. "I'm not confident about my dick, so I'm going to go to dipshit.com where EVERYONE'S penis is tiny, rather than facing my fear and going to MoS where a bunch of people have gotten the serious results I want." Do you want to hang out with and copy people who suck just to feel better about yourself? Or do you want to surround yourself with champions who have what you want and will push you to get it too? I know what I do when I want to get great at something. I find out where the absolute BEASTS go and I join up with them. And if I'm the scrawniest, dumbest guy in the room then I know I'm in the right place.
Bottom line is, you don't want to act based on fear. Nobody judges you like you judge yourself. Those roided-out ogres at the real gym think you're awesome for getting in there and working for what you want. They appreciate your mindset, which HAS to come first before you get any results. (Just like PE!)
3) Want to eat healthier, spend less $$ than you are now, and save tons of time? Are you capable of shifting your mindset and thinking of food as fuel for the shredded body your really want? Soylent. No more prep, no more cleanup, no more shopping, no more garbage in your guts. It's something to ease into and see if it's for you.
4) Nothing beats personalized feedback from a trainer who can meet you face to face and see what you're working with, but here are some resources to get you started thinking about how to build a workout for yourself even with no weights at all:
Be careful where you go for info. The fitness world is mostly snake-oil salesman looking to make a quick buck off of your insecurity, or whiners who shit on everyone else because that's easier than getting results for themselves.
Indeed my brother! This is a fallen world and I do not like to be in this world because I am not of this world. I don’t really find people that are on the same level as me and this just does not work out for friendships. It’s not their fault it’s mine, because I choose to not engage. I mean I spend my life working in the brotherhood and working in my ministries and I truly have no other time than that. But I love my life as small as it is and I have no desire whatsoever for a girlfriend. It would be nice to have a friend to stop by and hang out every once and again but that will never happen until I’m able to go into society without the discussed I have for it
Right there with ya homie. I've got ptsd after a long list of shit and it makes it almost impossible to trust or get close to people. I used to be a motor mouth, but now I'm probably silent half the day lol. I'm content with my friends though since they've all stuck with me since we were kids even after all the jail time lol. As for a female, I just want somebody pretty to fuck. I don't really care to love somebody like that again. Did it once and she drove me to a xanax addiction.
1) When you say you smoke, are we talking tobacco or pot? If the former... ditch that garbage ASAP as well! Better for your heart, lungs, circulation, EQ, and ability to build muscle and burn fat. You'll feel really fuckin dumb if you wind up with throat cancer because of that stuff. More importantly, you'll have cancer. Pot's not as bad, although many people find that makes it harder to feed themselves intelligently.
2) With dietary advice, don't feel like you have to pick something specific that works for one person and just do that or be unhealthy. Some people need to ditch carbs. They get great results doing that. (StillWant sure did!) I'm a pretty hard gainer, so I can't seem to make myself fat even if I try, but if I'm trying to build muscle I need all the fat and carbs and protein I can stuff down my face. Some people get deathly ill if they eat gluten, others don't have a problem. I can inhale dairy all day long, but if my wife tries it her GI tract revolts. Experiment and see what your body responds to! I have yet to meet the person who doesn't benefit from eliminating alcohol and sugars, though.
1) Do you need to start lifting weights? We haven't established that! Go check out Frank Medrano, Chris Heria, or Austin Dunham on youtube. These guys are calisthenics specialists... and they are ripped to pieces. None of those guys are worried about going into a serious gym. Hell, Medrano rolls with CT himself!
2) But let's say you really want to join a gym. I've been inside a few Planet Fitnesses myself, and I've noticed the same thing you did. Everyone in there is flabby and weak. Now... what does that tell you about Planet Fitness? All of those flabby weak people made the decision to enroll at Planet Fitness, where a literal alarm goes off when people are working hard... and they're still flabby and weak. What makes you think your results will be different?
I'm going to take your thinking here and apply it to the PE world so you can see how counterproductive it is. "I'm not confident about my dick, so I'm going to go to dipshit.com where EVERYONE'S penis is tiny, rather than facing my fear and going to MoS where a bunch of people have gotten the serious results I want." Do you want to hang out with and copy people who suck just to feel better about yourself? Or do you want to surround yourself with champions who have what you want and will push you to get it too? I know what I do when I want to get great at something. I find out where the absolute BEASTS go and I join up with them. And if I'm the scrawniest, dumbest guy in the room then I know I'm in the right place.
Bottom line is, you don't want to act based on fear. Nobody judges you like you judge yourself. Those roided-out ogres at the real gym think you're awesome for getting in there and working for what you want. They appreciate your mindset, which HAS to come first before you get any results. (Just like PE!)
3) Want to eat healthier, spend less $$ than you are now, and save tons of time? Are you capable of shifting your mindset and thinking of food as fuel for the shredded body your really want? Soylent. No more prep, no more cleanup, no more shopping, no more garbage in your guts. It's something to ease into and see if it's for you.
4) Nothing beats personalized feedback from a trainer who can meet you face to face and see what you're working with, but here are some resources to get you started thinking about how to build a workout for yourself even with no weights at all:
Be careful where you go for info. The fitness world is mostly snake-oil salesman looking to make a quick buck off of your insecurity, or whiners who shit on everyone else because that's easier than getting results for themselves.
1) definitely weed. Fuck some tobacco. I've never smoked tobacco in my life and have no reason to start now that weed is getting steadily more support for full legalization.
2) I do actually need to cut back on carbs because for a while basically everything I ate was packed with simple carbs. I'm not a pro athlete so all those unused carbs (along with alcohol) are getting stored as far on my body.
1(again lol) I do need to lift weights, since I'm a small guy and just working at my bodyweight isn't going to give me the strength i want. I never said you can't get in good shape with calisthenics, but lifting heavy weights is more enjoyable of a workout for me. It's been proven to release more testosterone, plus I get really bored with bodyweight exercises.
2nd 2) there's plenty of people that go in there and work. A loud alarm doesn't go off because you work too hard, it goes off when people are being obnoxious with the weights. And, most people who go to the gym and don't get in any better shape have their diet to blame. You can't look at a portion of people and expect every single one to turn out the same. I've got a friend who has a membership there and he's in really good shape. If you go and do your thing, all it is is a money saver lol.
As for being careful for snake oil salesmen, no worries there. Pretty much everything that works has been around forever and there's never going to be a magic cure to shit. I'm too cynical to believe in half the crap people try to sell lol.
Thanks for all those links. I'll check them out a little later before I go to Walmart ?
Damn I wish you lived close by we have so much in common! I was praying to God last night asking him for a woman but my specifications were so unbelievably specific I don’t think she’ll be coming anytime soon, I don’t think that God created her yet LOL I asked for many things but the main thing I asked for is that she would only be here one night a week LOL
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