What size pump for my mushroom head?

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I'm new here and seriously consider PE. My current size is 6" NBPEL, but only 4" MSEG, however 4.25" HEG, if I wear a cockring and do kegels the head will expand to 4.5", but the shaft remains pretty constant as 4". This gives me quite a noticeable mushroom head.

I am not too bothered about my 6" NBPEL, sure, bigger would be better, but at first at least I want to focus on girth gains as my girth is definitely on the smaller size of the spectrum.

I am in the UK and looking for a gauged pump, but I am wondering what size cylinder to get. I understand you should divide the girth by Pi, and then add add a little for growth.

Given my HEG is bigger than my MSEG which size do you recommend? Any where good to buy from in the UK without expensive shipping costs?

Also I am a newb, so looking for any other recommendations on PE routine to follow

Thanks :)
 
Same question here. i have a larger head than shaft and pump with a 2" tapered tube. Was wondering if that reduces length/stretch since it would be tighter sooner
 
Propeller8 said:
I'm new here and seriously consider PE. My current size is 6" NBPEL, but only 4" MSEG, however 4.25" HEG, if I wear a cockring and do kegels the head will expand to 4.5", but the shaft remains pretty constant as 4". This gives me quite a noticeable mushroom head.

I am not too bothered about my 6" NBPEL, sure, bigger would be better, but at first at least I want to focus on girth gains as my girth is definitely on the smaller size of the spectrum.

I am in the UK and looking for a gauged pump, but I am wondering what size cylinder to get. I understand you should divide the girth by Pi, and then add add a little for growth.

Given my HEG is bigger than my MSEG which size do you recommend? Any where good to buy from in the UK without expensive shipping costs?

Also I am a newb, so looking for any other recommendations on PE routine to follow

Thanks :)
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Wantmoreforwife said:
Same question here. i have a larger head than shaft and pump with a 2" tapered tube. Was wondering if that reduces length/stretch since it would be tighter sooner
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Greetings gents. Welcome to you brother @Propeller8

Since your glans is much larger than your penile shaft, like mine, we normally use a large cylinder that fits your glans's needs over the shaft. Since your glans girth is 4.25in, and you want to focus on your girth over your length, go for the largest girth size you think you want to achieve. For example, if your ultimate girth is 6in, while you are at 4.25, get a 5.25 to a 6in cylinder size for now. Why 5.25in size? You don't want to have your base or mid girth to explode out of control and surpass your glans. In addition, you don't want to go too far ahead of the size because you want uniformity during pressurization. Too much buffer space around the penis can cause unique unwanted ballooning hotspots causing your penile shaft to be lumpy.

If you worry about our pacing your glans's growth, there are specialized penile glans pump just for the glans to further push the glans growth to outpace the rest of the shaft.
 
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thank you for your insights.

suggestions for pumping for length gains- glans ~5.5 and shaft ~5.375. Currently use a 2" tapered tube that will pack on a second pump set. Recommend staying with the 2" tube for length gains? wasn't sure if it would restrict length too much since tapered tube.
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
thank you for your insights.

suggestions for pumping for length gains- glans ~5.5 and shaft ~5.375. Currently use a 2" tapered tube that will pack on a second pump set. Recommend staying with the 2" tube for length gains?
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Stay at 2in tube for 2 sets, and 2.25in tube for 3rd set.

If you go up in sets, 2 sets at 2in, 1 set at 2.25in, and keep alternating between the two cylinders. This helps to stabilize the girth expansion but allow the glans the chance to expand as well.

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wasn't sure if it would restrict length too much since tapered tube.
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It will. Always get a cylinder with at least 2in longer than the current length to prevent the cylinder from being hard packed at the top.
 
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lol... i wish i was packing length! i am packing tube width- still have a ways to go on a standard 2" tapered tube with 9" length. probably a good 2.5 to almost 3 inches- ways to go in that department yet :).

i know some thought process for a tapered tube is to maintain a tapered penis shape, base to glans but i think ourselves with the larger glans may restrict length gains with this approach. strange because even though i pack the 2" tube fairly quickly (within first set) i still end up with fluid buildup after pumping in upper 1/3 of shaft.
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
lol... i wish i was packing length! i am packing tube width- still have a ways to go on a standard 2" tapered tube with 9" length. probably a good 2.5 to almost 3 inches- ways to go in that department yet :).

i know some thought process for a tapered tube is to maintain a tapered penis shape, base to glans but i think ourselves with the larger glans may restrict length gains with this approach. strange because even though i pack the 2" tube fairly quickly (within first set) i still end up with fluid buildup after pumping in upper 1/3 of shaft.
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A custom tube is your best bet. I do not know if we have what you're looking for. If not there are other suppliers will make it for you. Pretty expensive so I hope you can find one in our store.
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
i know some thought process for a tapered tube is to maintain a tapered penis shape, base to glans but i think ourselves with the larger glans may restrict length gains with this approach. strange because even though i pack the 2" tube fairly quickly (within first set) i still end up with fluid buildup after pumping in upper 1/3 of shaft.
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I have a feeling you're going from low to very high vacuum pressure and staying pumped for too long.

What's your current pressure you are using and how long you stay at that pressure during the routine?
 
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pumping routine consists of 3 sets

full package pump 15 min 5psi

remaining two sets in the 2" tube 15 min each; first around 5-6 psi and second 6-7 psi

occasionally on the second set i may increase final pressure ~8-9 psi for the last 2 min.

usually a pretty consistent routine.
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
pumping routine consists of 3 sets

full package pump 15 min 5psi

remaining two sets in the 2" tube 15 min each; first around 5-6 psi and second 6-7 psi

occasionally on the second set i may increase final pressure ~8-9 psi for the last 2 min.

usually a pretty consistent routine.
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And there it is. Yep, too long in the tube.

The reason why the Girth program (SRT 5x5x3) is designated at the low time exposure in the tube is to prevent fluid build up. Fluid build up starts around the 4 minute mark as the negative pressures keeps on drawing in more blood and fluid straight to the glans and into the skin layers. The skin layers act like a safety release valve for high concentration of fluid buildup at the terminal point, the glans. The SSJ is done for the purpose of promote drainage while pushing the positive pressure inside the penis to its max limit. With each progressive pump repetition, the negative pressure pushes the expansion further forward, helping the SSJ to do its magic in expanding the tissues further using positive fluid pressure using the blood.
 
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suggestions on altered pumping/manual routine to eliminate the fluid build up and focus on length?
 
Got it. Let's focus on lengthwise, through pumping no less. Let's refocus on not geting the fluid retention.

For now, 3 sets:
  • Tissue warm up through heat application
  • Tissue pre-pumping through stretches. Minimum is 5 minutes. You can do SRT newbie routine for the pre-stretching, or, you if think you already reach an intermediate level through pumping, you can do a bundled (including rotation twist as you pull downward, sidewards, and upward) to break down the tissues before pumping. Also look at DLD's videos for various manual stretches, especially his DLD Blasters under the Media section or the Resources and Programs. This is required to break down the lateral tissues for expansion and lengthening.
  • Reduce pumping from 15 minutes down to 5 minutes max. First 2 minutes at 5PSI, next 1 minutes at 7PSI, 1 minute at 9PSI, and 1 minute at 6PSI. Why a swing? You are trying to break the tissues only, and not bringing fluid in.
  • Spend 10 minutes on slow squash jelq (see 5x5x3 and the videos if you don't know what it is). You can also implement horse jelq into the mix.
  • Spend 5 minutes on downward slow squash jelq by pulling one hand in the OK grip at the base of the glans while the hand using an OK grip at the base of the penis. The hand at the base of the penis should create a bulk of a downward pressure as you slowly, ever slowly, glide down toward the OK grip at the base of the glans. The travel time is around 1 to 2 minutes. This allows you to pull on the tunica and the ligaments for stressing while inflating the penile shaft. At the same time, you're protecting the glans from possible blister due to higher positive fluid pressure.
Use which ever cylinder you want. For length using pumping, the cylinder should only be slighly larger than your erected penis size.

Post pumping routine, wrap up your penis around the base or wear a cock ring for 60 minutes. You want to restrict the engorged blood from leaving the penis too fast. The penis should have a good volume of blood similar to the erected size blood volume, while it's flaccid. The blood should leave on its own within 5 minutes without being erected. Maximum time for the large volume of blood sits inside the penis is 10 minutes. Squeeze all the blood out if the volume of blood if it doesn't deflate on its own. Replace the lost volume of blood every 5 to 10 minutes through a light kegel or erection.

Overall, if you're looking for an effective length routine, it's better to use length devices or dedicated routines. Length devices like the LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging, all day system or extender.
 
oldandlively said:
Overall, if you're looking for an effective length routine, it's better to use length devices or dedicated routines. Length devices like the LengthMaster, all day system or extender.
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The best routine using the lengthmaster is SRT - Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory. It will bring growth faster than any other method
 
Thank you for the detailed resply. Reading a little more it appears there is a difference between lateral (girth) stretching of the tunica and longitudinal (length). I seem to have some success with the lateral strectching- girth seems to increase alot easier than length.

was thinking about doing some basic hanging to help initiate strectching of the longitudinal fibers. thoughts on this or a routine?
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
Thank you for the detailed resply. Reading a little more it appears there is a difference between lateral (girth) stretching of the tunica and longitudinal (length). I seem to have some success with the lateral strectching- girth seems to increase alot easier than length.

was thinking about doing some basic hanging to help initiate strectching of the longitudinal fibers. thoughts on this or a routine?
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You are correct to say the lateral tissues is easier to break down than longitudinal. Tunica fibers is one of hard to break down.

As for hanging, you can sure do it. Just make sure to do it safely. Very safely. Depending on what you use as a hanger support to hold onto the penis. The most oftenly used is tight wrap type. Nowaday, the more effective one is the suction or vacuum cup type for comfort that holds onto the glans. It will take some conditioning for the glans tissues to get used for the higher pressure caused by the hanging weight.

However, the most effective one compared to hanger is extended. Hanging can use free weights to quickly break down the tissues, but there are major inherit risks due to the static heavy weight causing immediate tears and moderate traumas. Extender can reach and go past 5kg but most are limited to 3kg as safety measures. Most long hours wearing should cap at 1.1 or 1.2kg. It can combo with hanging for more effective approach since hanging allows vertical stretches and extender can't, reliably that is.
 
to get some potential quicker gains, I was thinking of hanging ~2 lbs x 3 sets 10 minutes- midshaft to keep some of the pressure directly off of the glans. thoughts?

i've pumped on and off for the last few years combined with manual stretching- seem to be fairly conditioned. only drawback i have now, is a darker tip of the glans about 0.75" diameter that i didn't have before PE.
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
to get some potential quicker gains, I was thinking of hanging ~2 lbs x 3 sets 10 minutes- midshaft to keep some of the pressure directly off of the glans. thoughts?
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Defintely. As long as you can effective wrap and position the hanging pressure around the mid point. It may cause the foreskin to be pull upon if the wrap is not proper. The skin will pull from the mid to the base of the penis rather than tunica itself.

Wantmoreforwife said:
i've pumped on and off for the last few years combined with manual stretching- seem to be fairly conditioned. only drawback i have now, is a darker tip of the glans about 0.75" diameter that i didn't have before PE.
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Yep. Very common. The glans is the one that gets the brunt of all the works. This is why we try to tell the brothers to limit around 5 minutes at a time for a combo of exercises that pressurize the blood without release, and top out at 10 minutes. Exercises involves with pumps, clamps, plates that press on the dorsal blood vessels, wraps that tighten the blood vessels, or anything that restrict the blood from flowing at the natural rate. Even the all day system and extender has a max out time limit as well.
 
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oldandlively said:
Defintely. As long as you can effective wrap and position the hanging pressure around the mid point. It may cause the foreskin to be pull upon if the wrap is not proper. The skin will pull from the mid to the base of the penis rather than tunica itself.
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Perfect. Did a couple sets yesterday to acclimate… I could definetly tell a little more fatigue/soreness in the lugs toward the base/sides than with manual stretching- take this to be what I am after. As far as the wrapping- “effective” means secure/snug enough where you feel the stretch internal and mot just skin/foreskin?
 
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Yep. Very common. The glans is the one that gets the brunt of all the works. This is why we try to tell the brothers to limit around 5 minutes at a time for a combo of exercises that pressurize the blood without release, and top out at 10 minutes. Exercises involves with pumps, clamps, plates that press on the dorsal blood vessels, wraps that tighten the blood vessels, or anything that restrict the blood from flowing at the natural rate. Even the all day system and extender has a max out time limit as well.
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Seems like once you get this it may be there permanently? I hadn’t pumped I. A while and still present. Wife hasn’t said anything negative-so I take it may not be as visual as I thought it may be.

I suspect some may actually be from wrapping-trying to maximize extended healing length. Perhaps I would loosen up the wrap even at a slight reduction in passive healing length?
 
Wantmoreforwife said:
Seems like once you get this it may be there permanently?
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No, it will go away. Some lasts long than the others. My worst case took a few months to go away. Fastest is 20 minutes. This is why I limit myself 5 to 7 minutes per blood trapping routine with any devices. 10 minutes if I have very minimal pressure being forced into the glans.

Wantmoreforwife said:
I hadn’t pumped I. A while and still present. Wife hasn’t said anything negative-so I take it may not be as visual as I thought it may be.
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The glans can have similar colors on cold days. Unless she gives you a lot of blow jobs and care for the pink colors of the glans, most ladies will simply ignore any striation for the coloration.

Wantmoreforwife said:
I suspect some may actually be from wrapping-trying to maximize extended healing length. Perhaps I would loosen up the wrap even at a slight reduction in passive healing length?
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Yep. Definitely losen it up. The moment there is a dark color change from dark red to light purple, that's too tight of a restrictive wrapping.
 
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