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Worst president in history?
(The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.)


Please forward to all on your list so as to put things in perspective.

Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war.
They complain about his mismanagement of it.
One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history.


Let's clear up one point:

President Bush didn't start the war on terror.

Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.


OK, let's look at the "worst" president nominees and "mismanagement"claims.

FDR led us into World War II.
Germany never attacked us, Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.
North Korea never attacked us.
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost,
an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost,
an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
Clinton was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and he did nothing.
Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
Over 2,900 lives were lost on 9/11.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us,
President Bush has
liberated two countries,
rushed the Taliban,
crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran, and North Korea
without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist
who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

We have lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year.

Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

Worst president in history?

Sure doesn't appear to be Bush!

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

It took less time to take Iraq
than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51 day operation.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time
than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.


It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard
than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq
than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Our military is GREAT!
 
Yeah, I've seen this posted somewhere before. It holds valid points.
 
Bush did start a bullshit war in Iraq though. And he had the chance to off Bin Laden more then once, snipers had him in their sights, and they were ordered to -not- take the shot.

He's also an idiot beyond reason...

And this is comming from someone who will work for him soon. (Military) And is a register republican.
 
Xenoseal said:
Bush did start a bullshit war in Iraq though. And he had the chance to off Bin Laden more then once, snipers had him in their sights, and they were ordered to -not- take the shot.

He's also an idiot beyond reason...

And this is comming from someone who will work for him soon. (Military) And is a register republican.

Let's clear up one point:

President Bush didn't start the war on terror.

Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.

So we are supposed to let them attack us without fighting back? Did yuou read the whole post? All true
 
Xenoseal said:
Bush did start a bullshit war in Iraq though. And he had the chance to off Bin Laden more then once, snipers had him in their sights, and they were ordered to -not- take the shot.

He's also an idiot beyond reason...

And this is comming from someone who will work for him soon. (Military) And is a register republican.

If you're going into the military, you best get your act together. This 'idiot' as you say, is not only your President, but will soon be your Commander in Chief. What that means is, as far as your chain of command goes, he will be at the top.

You may not like him, share his same views, but you better respect him.
 
I don't agree that we started the war in Iraq. That was a fire that was smouldering for years. Regardless of whether Iraq participated in the events of 9/11, nobody can argue that Hussein was a loose cannon that wanted nothing more than to take down the U.S. (sound like anybody else we know of?)- even the other Arab nations feared what he might do. We know for a fact that Iraq plotted to assassinate fromer President Bush...if they would have succeeded would that have qualified as starting the war? And if so, why should we wait around for them to succeed? If someone says "I'm gonna kill you, just wait til I get my gun loaded" are you going to sit and watch them load their gun and wait for them to shoot you in the head before you consider the fight started? That's not diplomacy...that's stupidity. Perhaps President Clinton should have "started a war" with al-Qaida/Afghanistan after any one of the several terrorist attacks that took place on his watch? Maybe 3000 civilians wouldn't have died in NY. The Left is quick to talk shit about Bush and the war in Iraq, but do they ever stop to think how many lives he may have saved by hitting Iraq first instead of sitting around waiting for them to get their gun loaded and shoot first?

Yes, we have lost lives in Iraq, but everyone of those soldiers died protecting our ass. They died for their country..for our way of life...protecting us from a very real threat. Everytime a liberal says this war is BS they are not only ridiculing the President, but undermining the noble death of our servicemen by insinuating that they died for a lesser cause. Shame on them for doing so for the sake of a moments political gain.

Even if Iraq had no role in 9/11, Hussein saw that huge damage could be inflicted on us with or without WMDs. This man killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens...do you really think he would have not done the same to us given half a chance. Sure we could have sat and waited for them to strike the first blow...and then the Democrats up on the Hill would be wanting to know why Bush didn't stop it. It's pathetic.
 
You know whats funny, the people dissing the war are not even in the military and for that matter over there. Oh wait I forgot...John Kerry, the guy who skated out of NAM to go home and do Anit war protesting while his comrads were dying in NAM. Yea vote for him, what a winner.

I will be going TO Iraq in January. And going to the l phillipians nextr month, dont know If I will come back, dont care, just care about defending America and those who are in need. How do you think it makes the dead Marines Familys feel that there son died for people that did not appritiate what he is doing, How does it make the Marines that are over there feel when the so called "Americans" dont support them and vote against the 87 Billion Dollars to Support our Troops.

If America Is so bad then you go Move to Iraq and see how much you like it. WE got these american Actors, that go and stay with Fidel Castro Telling him they support what he is doing. Then why dont they move down there? Hypocrates and snakes.

Just remember the more you dont support our troops the less hope that it gives them and there familys? You really think the troops need to know that the people dont support them and there commander and cheif? Of coarse not.

Sadam Killed more than 300,000-500,000 of his own people and that is just what we can count. Thats not murder, thats genocide and will not be tolerated. Why are we in Iraq? To free the Iraq's and stop future murders of there own people and attacks on surrounding country's and to ensure American Security against Terrorist attacks. If you dont support our troops then I dont see how you can call yourself an American, the military is the only reason Why you are here? still? Move. I wish we could deport all these people like John Kerry and Tim Robbins and Sean Penn to Cuba, see how many freedoms they get

the USA is the longest standing Democarcy of all time becasue of our military

God Bless The Marines
 
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On another note. Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have WMD's. there are thousands of ammo dumps that we have not even found yet.

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have anything to do with 9/11

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have anything to do with Terrorists camps and Al Queda and Taliban

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have intestion to attack surrounding counties

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think we are over there for a cheaper Dollar on the Oil.
 
I think his done OK, considering the situation! Whether you like it or not, we are engaged with the enemies of freedom! I don't like war either, but I be dam, if I will set back and let freedom be taken from me, and those to come, and last but not least, all those soldiers that have made the ultimate sacrifice, I shall never forget!If my time comes to make a stand, you can guarantee I will go out with both guns blazing!! Freedom is worth it!!Oh yow, I'm a Texan by the way! United we stand and freedom lives on----- Divided we go back to the Dark ages!
 
99% of the people that bash bush and the Military are the ones that dont have it in them to do it, and dont have a loved on over there, cause if they did, they would support him and everything and do whatever it took to insure his security, IE voting and supporting the person who gives his son the most security. Do you really think that there are people that sayd Fuck Bush and the Military when there own loved ones are over there? No why? Cause the person that is over belives in what he is doing with all his heart, and that person's loved one loves him becasue of who he or she is. That would be like shooting there own loved one in the head before he even weht.

you think that the familys send there son hate mail on how much they despise and hate what he is doing? you think that if ther son dies they will not go to the funeral casue they didnt beilive in it. Come on, they support everything he is doing

The only People that do no support this is the Pussy's that just dont give a fuck about anyone else and dont care cause they dont have anyone over there and just want to hate to hate. And only care about themselves,

why was Clinton President? He made this country look horrible, refused to take down Bin Laden, Gave away nuclear secrets, downsaided the military ,over 100 people died within close proximity to clintons reign of power and nothing was looked at, whitewater, monica lewinski, jennifer flowers, a president that gets head while supposidly being the commader in cheif

John Kerry got three small cuts and applied for 3 purple hearts, knowing that getting 3 hearts in 6 months get you out of combat, came home and did anit war protesting while his buddies were dying. Cares nothing about the troops and will desrtoy the military worse than clinton.

People say we should not have nuclean weapons, well what the hell are we gonna do when someone shoots one at us? WTF... The reason why we have them is so that does not happen. And people want to get rid of them. What blasphemy. What is the matter with these people?
 
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Mummels on about nachos and dipsauce...

Nah, really i dont know what to say. I dont think Bush acted right on that Iraq mission. He were really convinced Saddam really had Weapons of Massdestruction.
Many countries finds that it was a to drastic move, so many soldiers lost on both sides. Even civilians, had to put their life for no good deed.

But hey, im just me and nobody else, cant controll people. If we could then we would have 6 million jewish people more in the world and A.Hitler. would have had been destroyed from the beginning.
 
Yes fuck Bush and his actions! He is only trying to finish what his daddy started. I would never join the Military. Why because I'm not fixing to go to another country and fight for my life because a few rich jerks in power positions thinks its necesary. Iraq will NEVER be a democracy, NEVER. How in the hell is a country 227 years ols going to tell a country 2000 years old how to live there lives. That is the problem with my European brothers, they think there way is the superior way. Tere is plenty of other ways to beef up homeland security, other than going to war. Too much american money going to waste, too many innocent lives taken, too many family members morning. And a lying idoit calling the shots.
 
Supra said:
On another note. Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have WMD's. there are thousands of ammo dumps that we have not even found yet.

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have anything to do with 9/11

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have anything to do with Terrorists camps and Al Queda and Taliban

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think that Saddam Did not have intestion to attack surrounding counties

Its ignorant and stupid for people to think we are over there for a cheaper Dollar on the Oil.


BUSH IS A KILLER TOO!
 
Crazyed, I respect your opinion and I enjoy your posts here, but I disagree with you on this. If I come up to you and say I'm gonna shoot you, just wait til I get my gun loaded, what are you going to do? Compare beefing up national security to a kevlar vest- Are you going to run off and get a kevlar vest and hope I shoot you where you're covered? Cuz you can't cover everything with kevlar. I'm willing to bet you're gonna knock my teeth out before I shoot you, because you strike me as a man who can be a badass when the time calls for it. The way I see it, that little scenario is just like what happened with Iraq. We had to do this to protect our nation from a real threat. Waiting for the other guy to strike first, esp. when he's already told you it's coming is fool's roulette. You mentioned all the innocent civilian casualties... we will never know how many people were saved by our preemptive strike on Iraq.
 
Regardless of how anyone feels about Bush, Republicans, and the Right in general, I don't see how anyone can argue against our actions in Iraq.
 
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But did he kill 300,000-500,000 of his own people that were inoocent and were killed just cause he stood up against him. No way man

Texas is not hte only state to have capital punisHydromaxent man, yet you blame it all on bush. If somone came into your house and killed your family, would you not want capital punisHydromaxent for them?
 
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crazyed27 said:
Yes fuck Bush and his actions! He is only trying to finish what his daddy started. I would never join the Military. Why because I'm not fixing to go to another country and fight for my life because a few rich jerks in power positions thinks its necesary. Iraq will NEVER be a democracy, NEVER. How in the hell is a country 227 years ols going to tell a country 2000 years old how to live there lives. That is the problem with my European brothers, they think there way is the superior way. Tere is plenty of other ways to beef up homeland security, other than going to war. Too much american money going to waste, too many innocent lives taken, too many family members morning. And a lying idoit calling the shots.


So you dont support the military or anything? I am not Pro bush man, I am a conservative and libratarian, I am pro military. People that serve our country are great and that is why you and me are here man, we would have been over run by superior powers if it was not for the military. They attacked us man, they did.

So if you had a brother that wanted to join the military you would tell him to fuck off and send him hate mail telling him how stupid he is and how he should not be there and on and on of what you had already stated, dont you think that alone would seal his fate and you might never see him again?
 
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I believe in having a military every country needs its protection but I think USA takes their military ideas to the extreme. Canada hasn't been overrun by superpowers for not having the strongest military in the world. No other countries even think of attacking Canada.

The majority of america's budget goes to military funding. Whereas other countries spend their budget on things that will directly help the people of their country. In the US the main idea seems to be "if your poor its because you are lazy and stupid so go fuck yourself, and if your rich its because you are smart and you should invest in guns to protect yourself from the poor theives that are decaying our society". Maybe this is because I am looking from outside the circle as I do not live in the US but I do not support bushes actions.

With all the money they spend on military a good portion goes to intellegence. They have more than enough satellites in space spying on people. So what I am wondering is how didn't they know what attack was being planned on them? Once the attacks sprung, how would they not be able to find their enemies? There are so many conspiracies going on in that government I surprised how any american citizen can believe what they hear on the news.

Once again this is just the opinion of someone not living in the US.
 
I don't normally respond to this type of thread but lets think back to 9/12. If we had done nothing in retaliation, it would have been a grave mistake. If we had sat back and did nothing it would have been open season on the USA, home and abroad. We would turn into the puss kid in highschool that everyone beat up on because he wouldn't hit back. Oh, eventually we would have retaliated, but by that time we would have had to fight back a multiple group of groups/countries. And, aggression towards all those groups/countries would have been WW III, guranteed.

What do you do when you are the most powerful country in world and get pushed? You smack that fool (Osama) and his buddy (Iraq), right in the mouth, and let all his friends see. Bitch all you want, its your American, paid in blood, right. The current situation is probably the best course we could have taken. Just my take on it.
 
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