The bathmate is giving me poor erections.
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It's normal for me. My Bathmate transforms temporary erection and libido into long term size increase. After waterpumping the skin gets thicker - that alone makes the erection appear softer. Whether the overall erection is worse I can't really say. Strong erections come back when i don't pump during that specific day. However the erection should be good enough for sex at all times even after pumping.
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I have noticed that my eq seems to drop when I get towards the end of the week but it returns over the weekend when I take 2 days off for rest.
theman6 how much are you masturbating or having sex? If you're masturbating and having sex maybe reducing/stopping the masturbation would help. Many hear have said edging without cumming at the end of the session helps EQ.
How often are you pumping, how long of sessions, and how intense?
Any changes in your life? Extra stress? Working too much? Change in diet or exercise? All of these can have an effect on EQ.
How often are you pumping, how long of sessions, and how intense?
Any changes in your life? Extra stress? Working too much? Change in diet or exercise? All of these can have an effect on EQ.
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cladre60;761001 said:
These are very good questions you asked
I have to masterbate alot because I need to get hard in order to pump. And i think thats what is stressing me out. Whether its 15 min or 25 min, i have to spend all that time every day playing with my penis and chemicals and i think it is wearing my mind and penis out.
Can you pump the bathmate soft and still gain?
Can you pump the bathmate soft and still gain?
theman6;761015 said:
If you're just getting an erection to use the BM and not having an orgasm from it that's exactly what you're supposed to do. You want a close to 100% EQ as possible for best results.
Break down your BM sessions a little. Instead of doing a full 15 minutes do 2-3 rounds of jelqing or SSJs and then 5 minutes in the BM. Jelqing and pumping improve blood flow which will improve EQ. If you're pumping too long you'll get that "hard flaccid" state where you're retaining a lot of water and appear to be nearly erect while pointing down. It can mess with your head and once you're stressed a little EQ can totally disappear.
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I have never understood why you would need an erection in order to pump because at least in my case the vacuum makes the penis expand, not the erection. Sometimes an erection is helpful for entering the pump because it is easier to create the seal with a penis already erect.
I did edging without cumming for a long period of time, during the time of jelqing - back then I didn't have a pump. In the first week the erection can be better at times but over time it always became normal again. I think it is placebo and only appears to bring better erection when done for a short while.
But during that time I could edge seeing my pleasure level going through the roof, literally. I became extremely horny. I thought that masturbation was better than having sex. I understood that no woman could give me that pleasure. December 2016 was one of the last sessions that went like this. Later, for some reason, I couldn't go that far anymore. Before I hit these high levels of stimulation I have to cum. Somehow the start of my pumping career must have destroyed the skill. But it could be imagination. Still I can't stop pumping + I tried to reignite the extreme pleasure sessions after the summer break (where I didn't pump for 1.5 months) - still his never came back and I didn't experiment too long due to lack of patience. During that time also a shift in consciousness happened in which I lost my feeling of guilt for �����������.
I did edging without cumming for a long period of time, during the time of jelqing - back then I didn't have a pump. In the first week the erection can be better at times but over time it always became normal again. I think it is placebo and only appears to bring better erection when done for a short while.
But during that time I could edge seeing my pleasure level going through the roof, literally. I became extremely horny. I thought that masturbation was better than having sex. I understood that no woman could give me that pleasure. December 2016 was one of the last sessions that went like this. Later, for some reason, I couldn't go that far anymore. Before I hit these high levels of stimulation I have to cum. Somehow the start of my pumping career must have destroyed the skill. But it could be imagination. Still I can't stop pumping + I tried to reignite the extreme pleasure sessions after the summer break (where I didn't pump for 1.5 months) - still his never came back and I didn't experiment too long due to lack of patience. During that time also a shift in consciousness happened in which I lost my feeling of guilt for �����������.
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Chaoskampf;761022 said:
The idea is to go into the pump 100% erect and expect the EQ to drop into the 85-90% range. we want to be as close to our maximum girth because we want expansion beyond the norm. If someone is able to get 20% expansion and they are pumping at 80% erect there will be no expansion beyond normal size. If you train the same way at 90% you are nw getting 110% of your regular size and that is exactly what you want, a temporary girth that goes beyond your normal size.
To expand on what DLD said...
When you're fully erect you penis is full of blood. Staying as erect as possible helps to expand your penis allowing more blood to get in = larger and thicker. My best girth sessions are watching ���� while pumping. I had 2 really good sessions without ���� when my wife got in the shower with me. She doesn't like the whole PE thing though. Wish she'd get on board cause those we great sessions and then I used it in her to keep the massive erection going.
When you're fully erect you penis is full of blood. Staying as erect as possible helps to expand your penis allowing more blood to get in = larger and thicker. My best girth sessions are watching ���� while pumping. I had 2 really good sessions without ���� when my wife got in the shower with me. She doesn't like the whole PE thing though. Wish she'd get on board cause those we great sessions and then I used it in her to keep the massive erection going.
You guys clearly do not understand what I am saying. I apologize for maybe not being clear enough.
I have to obviously masterbate in order to get hard so i can get into the bathmate. However the large ammounts of masterbation just to get into the pump is tiring out and desensitizing my penis. It is also weakening my erections.
I will not use ���� as ���� is damaging to the mind and Id actually prefer to not even masterbate and just have sex but I have to masterbate in order to pump. All this masterbation is messing with me.
I am a recovering ���� and masterbation addict so masterbating 15-20 min a day just to get pumped and than see my temp gains go away in an hour is driving me mad. I cant stop because i have a skinny penis.
I dont understand cause it seems last week i was finally starting to gain. My penis was girthier, but this week im back to my original skinny penis.
I have to obviously masterbate in order to get hard so i can get into the bathmate. However the large ammounts of masterbation just to get into the pump is tiring out and desensitizing my penis. It is also weakening my erections.
I will not use ���� as ���� is damaging to the mind and Id actually prefer to not even masterbate and just have sex but I have to masterbate in order to pump. All this masterbation is messing with me.
I am a recovering ���� and masterbation addict so masterbating 15-20 min a day just to get pumped and than see my temp gains go away in an hour is driving me mad. I cant stop because i have a skinny penis.
I dont understand cause it seems last week i was finally starting to gain. My penis was girthier, but this week im back to my original skinny penis.
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I follow what you are saying TM6. If I were in your shoes and recovering from those addictions I would use my pump at whatever level of eq I had without doing anything. I rarely get fully erect when I do my BM sessions and I am still able to make gains. It may cause me to gain a little slower but a gain is a gain no matter what increments it comes in. Just my .02
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Chaoskampf;761022 said:
Do you mind if I ask what's your current girth size?
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theman6;761093 said:
If you must masturbate daily, it has to be once in a day. I will suggest you don't masturbate daily because you need erection for girth work. You are the cause of your problems because you cannot control your masturbation habit.
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theman6;761111 said:
So you are probably using Hercules or X20 or X30.
I would go in flaccid, pump for two minutes. Take it out, then the expansion would already be better. Then you can go in one more time. As I said I don't need the erection for sealing. The Bathmate setup is having balls outside of the pump. Don't like that too much, always gives problems when the base of the penis isn't thick enough.
The temp gains go away quickly, that is normal. At some days however they stay for a couple of hours. Still the gains can already be there but can't be seen since they are very small.
Many people will report that they have trouble getting erect once they are in the shower. Maybe you have the same.
It's difficult sometimes. I think you will find the answer yourself after experimenting for some time. But I don't think that 4.5" girth is skinny so please clear your mind of this. I think this thought is more disturbing as the ���� you refuse.
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huge-girth;761101 said:
Midshaft between 4.8 and 7.0".
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Chaoskampf;761144 said:
Excellent advice and let me hit on the girth topic also. 4.5" of girth is just fine as it is in the normal range of average. I know that no one wants to be average but it is much better than believing you are below average. I also recommend a smaller pump to give less negative space. I know my Brother TheMan wants to gain more than anything so I hope he takes this advice and can capture that girth he desires. If he could gain 1/2" he would be .25" above average. 1/2" is easy, easy, easy....keep saying it! Mantra, easy easy easy!
theman6;761093 said:
We couldn't understand until this post. My heart goes out to you and I hope your recovery is going well. I personally can not imagine how hard that is to deal with.
My best advice is to do whatever you can SAFELY do to achieve a good EQ. Maybe some dry jelqs as wet ones would certainly spring up the urge to masturbate. I find dry jelqing to be far less pleasurable and almost painful if done slow and hard. My EQ goes up with them simply for the fact that I'm forcing blood into my penis.
You may also want to try a cock ring. If you're in a semi flaccid state the mechanics alone if it's use should slowly raise you to a decent EQ.
It is far more beneficial to enter the BM fully erect and stay that way but if that's a big issue I'd say get in however you can and pump. You may want to do BM hardcore stretches as well. You get a dual workout and pull more blood into the penis to create expansion. I know I've done them with far less than 100% EQ and still came out huge.
Hope some of this helps and works for you.
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