The Anti-Player

Hobgoblin

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Evening fellas,

Some contrarian advice if all of the "player" handbook stuff looks a little weird at times. Not knocking it, just pointing out that it may not work for everyone. Everything that follows is only my opinion, and not scientifically proven.

BE YOURSELF! Sounds new age and silly, I know. But what girls truly respond to is sincerity and being comfortable in your own skin. The ones that don't respond to that, well, we all know them, and you'll have them until someone shows up with a bigger wallet. Being genuine can sometimes even trump money.

Most girls have an innate radar and will know when they are being manipulated. They may ignore their intuition, as many do, or they may not. If they are the type to ignore it, then more than likely their life is a train wreck of poor choices that will drag you down like the whirlpool around a sinking ship.

So, the being yourself thing. Harder than it sounds. We're inundated with perceptions of the sauve GQ guys that dance at all the clubs and say the cool lines. But not everyone can be Bond, even the Roger Moore incarnation, no matter how hard they try. FINE! Even better, cause the clubs are packed with $30K a year millionaires (Dallas is full of them) all trying to be Sean Connery. (Sorry, AMC's been running lots of Bond movies).

For example, I'm an ok dancer. Love to tango, shit like that. But cluBathmateix gives me a headache and makes my teeth itch, but that's supposedly where the girls are. But even if I learned the moves (are there moves? or is it just throwing yourself around like an spastic?) no way I could ever truly enjoy it. But, I discovered the salsa clubs and was in paradise.

The point is, it may be hard for some of us to be something we're not, and to memorize formulaic responses to women's every move might seem robotic, or passionless, or even cheating :) So find the things YOU like about yourself, and accentuate them.

Like what? Hell, I don't know. I like poetry. Not a very masculine thing, I know. cummings, Eliot, Byron (especially Byron) so I love bookstores and readings, etc. You'd be amazed how women will respond to a guy that genuinely has similiar interests. If you're a sports fanatic, go see some women's games at a college. Guarantee you there will be girls there, and enough icebreaker lines to pick from that you should have no problems.

The list of possibilities is endless...art classes, cooking classes, sports, art house movies, books, college classes, museums, and it doesnt all have to be pseudo intellectual stuff...shit one guy i know was into martial arts and took a self-defense class for the hell of it...two guys and twenty eight girls between 18 and 40. Odds dont get much better than that and he met his wife there.

There's got to be something that you're interested in and passionate about, and if not, getting laid is the least of your problems.

Think about the things women are concerned about. They're (almost) as confused as we are. They want to have a good time, but they're worried about trust and their safety, being treated well, their reputation, their future, etc. So go out of your way to be polite, and always be considerate, even to the ones you're not interested in, because it goes without saying that they have friends and women work on a hell of a referral system.

Most important thing is that getting laid and having a good time should be the same thing. Don't sacrifice one for another. If you turn it into a job, or a mission, the best girls will sense it. If they are the same thing, the girls will eventually seek you out.

Hobgoblin
 
Sorry to ruin the thread but "being yourself" is the worst peice of advice you could give a man in seek of pussy.

Especially since 99.999% of guys have bought into the mantra that if we're romantic and if we're "nice" girls will like us.
Well fuck no it wont work! ill tell ya something.
I call girls losers all time and make fun of them (sarcastically of course) about their clothes and shit yet they fuck me all the time instead of picking the guy at the bar that offered her a drink. The guy at the bar is obviously trying to hit on her like every other guy in the world since she's hot. So when a guy comes and busts her balls, she's like wtf! thats not normal! Guys treat me like royalty. He must have balls to call a hot girl like me a loser. And if he thinks im a loser then imagine the kind of girls he has...they must be REALLY HOT!

This gives you mad social proof and puts you in control of the frame instead of her...

I understand how being yourself can work for some, like me. But i created who i am. I created my style and sense of value, and not everyone has that. So telling people to "be themselves" will rarely work...at all.
 
Now dont go out and call girls losers just put yourself in higher state of value by making the girl feel "at your level" and you will always win! i promise!The hotter the girl the more value she thinks she has and the more value you gotta shoot down.
 

Hobgoblin

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Crzy,

Understand what you're saying, man. Just offering an alternative for the guys that may find that approach a bit akward, but i think we're both saying the same things. "Be yourself' may not be as good a way to say it as "work with what you've got".

I've seen the guys that ignore the girls and the ones that actively treat the girls like shit, and they do get a ton of ass. Was never personally my thing, and the girls that i saw it work on in my opinion had tons of baggage and self esteem problems, but shit...whatever works.

There's some guys that are just never going to be able to come down hard on a woman, and there's nothing wrong with that. Takes all kinds.


Cheers,

Hobgoblin
 

Gardenier90

Active member
Good points crzy.
 
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TheExecutioner

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Originally posted by crzy_young_gun
Sorry to ruin the thread but "being yourself" is the worst peice of advice you could give a man in seek of pussy.

Especially since 99.999% of guys have bought into the mantra that if we're romantic and if we're "nice" girls will like us.
Well fuck no it wont work! ill tell ya something.
I call girls losers all time and make fun of them (sarcastically of course) about their clothes and shit yet they fuck me all the time instead of picking the guy at the bar that offered her a drink. The guy at the bar is obviously trying to hit on her like every other guy in the world since she's hot. So when a guy comes and busts her balls, she's like wtf! thats not normal! Guys treat me like royalty. He must have balls to call a hot girl like me a loser. And if he thinks im a loser then imagine the kind of girls he has...they must be REALLY HOT!

This gives you mad social proof and puts you in control of the frame instead of her...

I understand how being yourself can work for some, like me. But i created who i am. I created my style and sense of value, and not everyone has that. So telling people to "be themselves" will rarely work...at all.
The tactic i use all the time is to try and never stare, seem Slightly interested but not give her half the attention she would expect ie not stare at her etc, be unavailable and yes the important one, the shit im quoting right now, never play up to the 'buy her a drink' shit be cruel but nice aswell if you get my drift, not a total arse hole but, one that seems like she isnt that important and nothing that special!
 

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