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Has anyone switched to TGC theory after plateauing in length and gained? In theory is says if your Erections are weak and BPFSL is longer than BPEL at .5 inches inches or above the smooth muscle is the limiting factor. Therefore, you should work on girth.


Some info on me is that ive been stuck at 8/ 8 1/16 inches BPEL and 9/9.25 BPFSL for last 2 months. I go up in weight in hanging every other week and now at 14 lbs and sessions on avg for about 50 mins. I also include extending to the max for atleast 3 hours a day.

So what do you all think?
 
sounds about right, EQ needs to be 100% to hit your true erect length and help cement gains. I mean you could keep stretching and hanging and gain anyways but EQ and penis health should be a priority.
 
Nolove;695345 said:
Has anyone switched to TGC theory after plateauing in length and gained? In theory is says if your Erections are weak and BPFSL is longer than BPEL at .5 inches inches or above the smooth muscle is the limiting factor. Therefore, you should work on girth.


Some info on me is that ive been stuck at 8/ 8 1/16 inches BPEL and 9/9.25 BPFSL for last 2 months. I go up in weight in hanging every other week and now at 14 lbs and sessions on avg for about 50 mins. I also include extending to the max for atleast 3 hours a day.

So what do you all think?

Get a LengthMaster and make the manual stretches so intense that your penis has no choice but to get longer!
 
acromegaly;695349 said:
sounds about right, EQ needs to be 100% to hit your true erect length and help cement gains. I mean you could keep stretching and hanging and gain anyways but EQ and penis health should be a priority.

Yeah, thats the point of the TGC theory. Work on the smooth muscles get EQ way up like a bike tire.. Im going to wait until July and see if an increase in weight during hanging will help me gain. If not ill do 70% girth work with just manual stretching/extending .


DLD, i was tempted to buy the lengthmaster , however, tight on cash at the moment.
 
doublelongdaddy;695390 said:
Get a LengthMaster and make the manual stretches so intense that your penis has no choice but to get longer!

But what if there is a self-defense mechanism in the penis that makes too intense stretches completly meaningless. Perhaps there is a balance of tug that should be applied to encourage gains? :)
 
habban;695473 said:
But what if there is a self-defense mechanism in the penis that makes too intense stretches completly meaningless. Perhaps there is a balance of tug that should be applied to encourage gains? :)

you should use the most intensity you can without hurting yourself, it takes practice i guess
 
acromegaly;695481 said:
you should use the most intensity you can without hurting yourself, it takes practice i guess

Indeed but be sure the intensity is progressive over a few sessions before going for maximum intensity. If using the LengthMaster you will never need to use all the intensity, if you did you would rip your cock off.
 
doublelongdaddy;696007 said:
Indeed but be sure the intensity is progressive over a few sessions before going for maximum intensity. If using the LengthMaster you will never need to use all the intensity, if you did you would rip your cock off.

I agree 100%
 
I'm having this problem too. My BPFSL is 7.5 and my BPEL is 7.0 but I want my BPEL to go up to 7.5 and my BPFSL to go up 8.5 and I'm upping the intensity all I can with the hanger so hopefully I'll see what it comes to in time :)
 
kyomoto;696167 said:
I'm having this problem too. My BPFSL is 7.5 and my BPEL is 7.0 but I want my BPEL to go up to 7.5 and my BPFSL to go up 8.5 and I'm upping the intensity all I can with the hanger so hopefully I'll see what it comes to in time :)

According to the TGC Theory you should work on your bloodflow to your penis, so it can fill all the way up to 7.5 inches when erect.
 
habban;696206 said:
According to the TGC Theory you should work on your bloodflow to your penis, so it can fill all the way up to 7.5 inches when erect.

That theory is just a theory and in my case it doesn't apply because my eq has been 10/10
 
kyomoto;696240 said:
That theory is just a theory and in my case it doesn't apply because my eq has been 10/10

Are you sure it is 10/10? ;)

Look on what i recently wrote in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-pelvic-floor-muscle-question.html#post696255

There also is a theory that tells you that your Pelvic Floor should be relaxed for optimum EQ, which means that reverse kegels isn't only used for what DLD says.
There is a thread that tells you about the Pelvic floor system more in depth i believe. So it shouldn't be doing 1000's of kegels everyday without
any reverse keegels. What just happend to me today maybe is an indicator of that.

If your Pelvic Floor is tense you will sure get erections, but they will subside very fast, or as soon as you gets 100% erect you will be at the PONR.
If your pelvic floor is balanced and relaxed your pelvlic floor will not get any tensions and will not be tired or overworked as it easily can get if you have regularly tensions in your
pelvic floor. A relaxed & balanced pelvic floor will give you more control and your erections will be longer and more easy to reach, and you will not suffer from having to blast as soon as you gets an erection.

This is what i starting to believe in, but anyone else maybe have something else to say?
 
kyomoto;696167 said:
I'm having this problem too. My BPFSL is 7.5 and my BPEL is 7.0 but I want my BPEL to go up to 7.5 and my BPFSL to go up 8.5 and I'm upping the intensity all I can with the hanger so hopefully I'll see what it comes to in time :)

Get those erect stretches in too, this will really speed the cementing process.
 
doublelongdaddy;696262 said:
Get those erect stretches in too, this will really speed the cementing process.

Take a look on what i wrote above to kyomoto. You probably, with the reverse keegels you put in doing your stretch work, managed to balance your pelvic floor. It somehow compensated
the heavy kegel work you did. But you state that reverse kegels is only for length work, and never mention anything about pelvic floor balance, which i think is a very important subject.

Also you mentioned this earlier "The penis is a balloon not a rope" which makes perfect sense with the TGC Theory. And also is a big factor why you made good gains.
Both length & girth should be handled with equal intensity in the perfect routine. Both length & girth has to be worked, and not only focus on one single area. The tunica has to
grow and the smooth muscles too, kinda like a queue system after each other. First tunica grows, then smooth muscles grows to fill the space. If your routine is balanced enough with both length & girth you will
have an easier time to success. If you focus mainly on girth work you will eventually just get fluid retention. Your tunica has to grow! Length exercises is best for this.

I think balance could be the key, a balanced pelvic floor and a balanced routine. Everything has to be in balance and harmony, and perhaps that is what you accomplished DLD.

And growing the Tunica is harder than growing smooth muscles and get more blood flow. Which means that more often you have to use a 70% length and 30% girth routine than using a 50-50 routine.
 
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doublelongdaddy;696262 said:
Get those erect stretches in too, this will really speed the cementing process.

See the thing with me its hard to stretch my erect penis idk why and I can never grip my penis under the balls to stretch or at the base, very so hard because I just feel like im stretching my skin however I'll always try to find ways to pass this

habban;696259 said:
Are you sure it is 10/10? ;)

Look on what i recently wrote in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-pelvic-floor-muscle-question.html#post696255

There also is a theory that tells you that your Pelvic Floor should be relaxed for optimum EQ, which means that reverse kegels isn't only used for what DLD says.
There is a thread that tells you about the Pelvic floor system more in depth i believe. So it shouldn't be doing 1000's of kegels everyday without
any reverse keegels. What just happend to me today maybe is an indicator of that.

If your Pelvic Floor is tense you will sure get erections, but they will subside very fast, or as soon as you gets 100% erect you will be at the PONR.
If your pelvic floor is balanced and relaxed your pelvlic floor will not get any tensions and will not be tired or overworked as it easily can get if you have regularly tensions in your
pelvic floor. A relaxed & balanced pelvic floor will give you more control and your erections will be longer and more easy to reach, and you will not suffer from having to blast as soon as you gets an erection.

This is what i starting to believe in, but anyone else maybe have something else to say?

Yes I'm 100% positive my EQ is 10/10 I've been doing kegels at a good pace and with a good routine. It's not just random anymore.
 
kyomoto;696308 said:
See the thing with me its hard to stretch my erect penis idk why and I can never grip my penis under the balls to stretch or at the base, very so hard because I just feel like im stretching my skin however I'll always try to find ways to pass this

Yes I'm 100% positive my EQ is 10/10 I've been doing kegels at a good pace and with a good routine. It's not just random anymore.

Have the same problem. Bet we need something similar to glue to get our hands stuck on the penis to stretch it while erect. Maybe because our glans is too small.
But what i do for now is griping two-handed and stretch both hands away from each other. One hand under the glans and one at mid-shaft.

Can you try the technique where you let yourself be in the 100% erection zone and then hold a reverse keegel (Like you do to force out pee harder)
and see what happens to your penis? Does it move?

What is your current erection angle? How hard is your CC to the touch, from sides and above?
 
habban;696319 said:
Have the same problem. Bet we need something similar to glue to get our hands stuck on the penis to stretch it while erect. Maybe because our glans is too small.
But what i do for now is griping two-handed and stretch both hands away from each other. One hand under the glans and one at mid-shaft.

Can you try the technique where you let yourself be in the 100% erection zone and then hold a reverse keegel (Like you do to force out pee harder)
and see what happens to your penis? Does it move?

What is your current erection angle? How hard is your CC to the touch, from sides and above?

I have no idea what this technique is but i tried it and didn't move. Aside from that I heard holding back your foreskin will help stretch the penis solely, i can't do that because it pulls on my frenulum and its still healing so that'll have to wait.
 
kyomoto;696327 said:
I have no idea what this technique is but i tried it and didn't move. Aside from that I heard holding back your foreskin will help stretch the penis solely, i can't do that because it pulls on my frenulum and its still healing so that'll have to wait.

Okey. I don't know if you are doing it right but i hope so. You should relax your pelvic floor area. You should hold the reverse keegel for a long time. When i do it my penis expands further and the erection angle goes higher. It is like watching a flower bloom.

I also have another theory on why your BPFSL is 7.5 and your BPEL is only 7 with 10/10 EQ.
Perhaps you are not pushing your BPEL measurement as deep as you could.

Pressure the ruler as deep & as hard as it possible can go. Use a little force ;)
Also, while you are holding your penis when measure, you should naturally put
a little bit of a stretch on the penis when you measure which also will make it slightly longer. This at least happens to me as i'm pushing the penis down a bit
since i have a pretty high angle.

But DON'T bend on your knees, that will give you a faulse measurement. Also try to look right above your penis tip if you can, withotu bending your knees.

Now, tell me.. Did you get 7.5 BPEL? ;)
 
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