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1. Do any of the phases of the 5 Phase routine featured in the MOS DVD require PE equipment? I've been thinking of buying this DVD, but in hopes that I only have to do manuals.

2. Do girth work/gains pave the way for length gains? I noticed in the SSJ video of DLD's that he mentioned something called "ballooning", and his statement basically alluded to the fact that this helps for a longer stretch, e.g. better results in length gains. So I guess what I'm also asking is, is ballooning basically making your penis thicker in order to get a longer stretch/length gain out of it?

3. Is it best to have rest days only for girth work, and take no days off from stretching?

4. How many kegels should be done each day to ensure strong EQ?
 
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1. 99% positive it is all manuals. For some reason I am wondering if the power assist is used at all. From what I have read over I think am pretty sure it is all manuals.

2. Yes and no. Men makes gains in such different ways. People look at ballooning differently. I don't believe believe ballooning seen with pumping, clamping, or manual girth work gives nearly as much gain potential to length as it does to girth. I like to do girth work after a good stretching session.

3. This is how I train. Though I have been considering doing girth every day of the week just reducing the intensity on the days I would normally take off. From what I am learning it seems the new wave to get quicker gains is to PE as much as possible but just not to overdo the intensity. Especially with girth work because that seems to be where the most injuries occur.

4. I don't know. Probably start off small and build up from there to higher numbers. It does work your PC MUSCLE so a muscle has to rest. I'd do every other day to start with good intensity. I need to start keeling. I just realized I haven't been.
 
Golden Crotch;619028 said:
1. Do any of the phases of the 5 Phase routine featured in the MOS DVD require PE equipment? I've been thinking of buying this DVD, but in hopes that I only have to do manuals.

2. Do girth work/gains pave the way for length gains? I noticed in the SSJ video of DLD's that he mentioned something called "ballooning", and his statement basically alluded to the fact that this helps for a longer stretch, e.g. better results in length gains. So I guess what I'm also asking is, is ballooning basically making your penis thicker in order to get a longer stretch/length gain out of it?

3. Is it best to have rest days only for girth work, and take no days off from stretching?

4. How many kegels should be done each day to ensure strong EQ?



1- Yes, it is manuals, do not worry. You know- PE is PE, i works on its own. You do not need devices or equipment to make it work, you need devices and equipment to make it work faster (to bring you results faster). Plus, give give the SRT theory a read ( http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ay-to-a-massive-penis-and-a-perfect-body.html ) and you will see that what is actually most important about devices is that they can let us heal actively. Which is explained in detail in DLD's thread.

2- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-a-rope.html?highlight=your+penis+is+a+baloon this is the thread you reffered to i think. Re-read it, it is really good and it answers your question perfectly.

3- Length does not need rest. What you want when going for length is to reach fatigue in your penis and ride its wave. When you reach fatigue- your penis can not resist the stretch (cause sometimes we tend to kegel a bit not let the weight pull our penises as we want (survival mechanisms) and our ligs/tunica resist as well). If you give length a break- fatigue will be no longer and you risk to have your penis adapted to the intensity and therefore making gains much harder to come (that would make you go for crazy big intensities to get good results again).
Girth on the other hand is very demanding. If you overdo girth work you got injure yourself severely (which has happened especially to brothers that have done some of the REALLY dangerous exercises (mostly the ones that require constriction)) and you will most probably get EQ reduction. You need to give it rest to recover properly and get good EQ (vascularity and blood flow) to the penis on the next session. Cause non-erect girth work is no good...

4- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ion-and-overall-penile-health.html?highlight= Give this thread a good read. It is full of useful info on this topic!

If you have any questions or anything you misuderstood- make sure to ask me, I will be around. All the best, Zam :)
 
Zambrodom3;619052 said:
1- Yes, it is manuals, do not worry. You know- PE is PE, i works on its own. You do not need devices or equipment to make it work, you need devices and equipment to make it work faster (to bring you results faster). Plus, give give the SRT theory a read ( http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ay-to-a-massive-penis-and-a-perfect-body.html ) and you will see that what is actually most important about devices is that they can let us heal actively. Which is explained in detail in DLD's thread.

2- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-a-rope.html?highlight=your+penis+is+a+baloon this is the thread you reffered to i think. Re-read it, it is really good and it answers your question perfectly.

3- Length does not need rest. What you want when going for length is to reach fatigue in your penis and ride its wave. When you reach fatigue- your penis can not resist the stretch (cause sometimes we tend to kegel a bit not let the weight pull our penises as we want (survival mechanisms) and our ligs/tunica resist as well). If you give length a break- fatigue will be no longer and you risk to have your penis adapted to the intensity and therefore making gains much harder to come (that would make you go for crazy big intensities to get good results again).
Girth on the other hand is very demanding. If you overdo girth work you got injure yourself severely (which has happened especially to brothers that have done some of the REALLY dangerous exercises (mostly the ones that require constriction)) and you will most probably get EQ reduction. You need to give it rest to recover properly and get good EQ (vascularity and blood flow) to the penis on the next session. Cause non-erect girth work is no good...

4- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ion-and-overall-penile-health.html?highlight= Give this thread a good read. It is full of useful info on this topic!

If you have any questions or anything you misuderstood- make sure to ask me, I will be around. All the best, Zam :)

I will have to disagree with your statement that breaks make ligaments tougher
 
mza;619060 said:
I will have to disagree with your statement that breaks make ligaments tougher

Well this is what I think, because- think of it- if you work with 10 lbs (lets assume you are hanging) now and you are reaching fatigue, giving a great stretch, everything is ok. If you stop for a week though- (if you've mostly hung BTC) your ligaments will get the chance to completely recover (cause what we should aim at is to not let the ligs fully recover, we want them constantly fatigued so they don't resist the stretch) and therefore become tougher. Think of it like a muscle- if you train it and overload it- the body survival mechanisms make it tougher/stronger so it can overcome the next task it is faced to. So it would make sense for it to adapt to the intensity and become harder to stretch. This is my logic. :)
 
Zambrodom3;619061 said:
Well this is what I think, because- think of it- if you work with 10 lbs (lets assume you are hanging) now and you are reaching fatigue, giving a great stretch, everything is ok. If you stop for a week though- (if you've mostly hung BTC) your ligaments will get the chance to completely recover (cause what we should aim at is to not let the ligs fully recover, we want them constantly fatigued so they don't resist the stretch) and therefore become tougher. Think of it like a muscle- if you train it and overload it- the body survival mechanisms make it tougher/stronger so it can overcome the next task it is faced to. So it would make sense for it to adapt to the intensity and become harder to stretch. This is my logic. :)

The ligs adapt to every weight thats why you increase it overtime
But trust me try to take 3 weeks off the 10 lbs will feel like 20
But if you reach fatigue you shouldnt stop thats true
 
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mza;619062 said:
The ligs adapt to every weight thats why you increase it overtime
But trust me try to take 3 weeks off the 10 lbs will feel like 20
But if you reach fatigue you shouldnt stop thats true

Maybe because of the conditioning. It is interesting what DLD thinks though :).
 
There's disagreement because no one really knows for certain, but it is certain that whether you stretch 2 on 1off, 3/1, 5/2, or 7 days a week, if you use the correct intensity and stick with it faithfully, you will make gains..
There will be disagreement about which schedule is best, maybe it even varies between men, find a schedule that fits for you and keep working
 
Zambrodom3;619070 said:
Maybe because of the conditioning. It is interesting what DLD thinks though :).

De-conditioning breaks have long been thought to be beneficial when gains become stagnant. It is a chance for things to reset and give the user another way to apply intensity when the penis has become used to exercise. I personally go in a different direction, when things become slow I will add intensity to the training or forego the current routine with a new, more powerful one. In both cases it keeps the penis guessing and prevents it from plateauing.
 
To expand on the OP's equipment question, most of my gains came from all manual exercises from the MoS site, before I even got any equipment.
And when I'm in a routine, I try to go all 7 days and sometimes I do, but the inevitable truth is that life gets in the way sometimes and you're forced to take a day or two off. I say stretch as much as you can for as long as you can, and not worry about scheduling breaks, just let life happen and take breaks naturally when you need to.
PE is a long process that requires motivation, so just go with the flow. Too stringent of a schedule can lead to demotivation, I've been there before. Stretch as much as you can, when you can, don't mind-fuck yourself and Hakuna Matata
 
Hey guys I just wanted to ask a question for the newbies cause I started a year ago and it just came to me today. This will probably help newbies decide on a good size to work up to. So here's the question,
How big is too big in terms of both length and girth? Bpel and mseg?
 
Kenken20;725715 said:
Hey guys I just wanted to ask a question for the newbies cause I started a year ago and it just came to me today. This will probably help newbies decide on a good size to work up to. So here's the question,
How big is too big in terms of both length and girth? Bpel and mseg?

Anything beyond 8.5 x 6 is too big. Most women prefer even smaller stats, 7 x 5.5 according to the last survey we did. So, yeah, anything beyond that is pure ego :)
 
doublelongdaddy;725727 said:
Anything beyond 8.5 x 6 is too big. Most women prefer even smaller stats, 7 x 5.5 according to the last survey we did. So, yeah, anything beyond that is pure ego :)

Ok like that answer:cool: wont be that hard for most bros here to reach that size...
 
LONGERDICK7+;725765 said:
Ok like that answer:cool: wont be that hard for most bros here to reach that size...

Well it certainly makes the Brotherhood's life easier if they put trust in my assertion. Anyone here can make it into that measurement slot, anyone!
 
doublelongdaddy;725902 said:
Well it certainly makes the Brotherhood's life easier if they put trust in my assertion. Anyone here can make it into that measurement slot, anyone!

Is that bone-pressed?
 
Kenken20;725955 said:
Is that bone-pressed?

It has to be bone-pressed, someone who has a fat pad of 2" and a dick that is 7" is just as long as a guy with no fat pad and 7". Measuring bone-pressed eliminates errors due to weight gain or loss. I try to get every Brother to take on a weight/body training alongside their PE. Reducing the fat pad and increasing length is a two fold blessing.
 
Kenken20;726042 said:
So what can one do to lose the fat pad?

Cardio is the best as the fat pad is general weight as in there are no targeted exercises to get rid of that first, core work outs can help to tighten the area but does very little to get rid of it.
If you haven't already get a fitness regimen worked into your weekly routine your body will thank you for it and it will only help you gain as blow flow throughout the body tends to be better with physically active people.
 
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Yup, cardio and dieting are the best. The thing is some men need to be very thin to eliminate most of the pad. I was able to get down to a .25" but I was at least 10 pounds under weight. At my weight today of about 175 I have a pad of about .75 which I am happy with. I would like to be at .25" but I would be way too skinny.
 
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