""The phone is an incredible way to do patterns because women feel they aren't being observed and therefore can be a lot stronger in their responses."
The consensus of using the phone as a seduction device is divided. Most agree, that if you lack any patterning skills, the phone is the kiss of death. if she seems to want to have a chit-chat with you, talk to her a little using a low, confident, seductive voice (and smile while you do it, she'll hear that, but generally - just get off the phone as fast as you can!
On the other hand, the phone has been used to great effect to do patterning. There have even been various reports of being able to make women orgasm without letting them toch themselves just by describing various states to them over the phone. The women, by the way, were usually even more shocked than the men running patterns on them - neither had previously thought such a thing to be even possible
But I would still suggest to use the phone only in case you feel some resistance on her part to meet you in person (which might happen if she has never met you in person before, for example a girl you met and seduced online or just a friend of a friend or if she for some other reason is disinclined to meet you in person right away). Because there is a world of difference between hearing her sigh longingly over the phone or having her sit next to you, holding your hands and wetting her lips "
personally i find the phone the kiss of death and get off it quick. seduction in person is 10000% easier as you can see body language and facial expressions to learn how she feels about things you say
Yeah, have to agree with levista. I'm not an expert on patterning, but as far as being a challenege, you should not use the phone for more than 2 minutes(just to set up a date), other time whenever she calls don't pick-up the phone or if you do happen to pick it up say that you're busy.
I disagree, The longer you talk on a phone with a Chick the more she feels she knows you. Obviously if you hook up with her more often that would be better. But talking on the Phone for an hour or so with a chick will make them feel more comfortable when they finally hook up with you, on some we known each other for a long time shit. Just say the right things on the Phone be normal & talk about some shit she's into.
Horses for courses, find what works for you. For me, i know i could screw it up very easy and its hard to come across really well, so I avoid it. I want to play to *my* strengths not my weaknesses.
As for chatting for ages on the phone, I couldnt contradict that if you do want to bond and find things in common, but personally would still feel its better done in person when you have each others full attention. There is also the question here of "what are your aims", if its a long term relationship you want then long talks may be more appropriate, though if its a hit and run I would keep everything short and sweet as you dont want to give the impression you are heavily into her, the air of mystery helps a lot to keep you strong in her eyes (grab the doubleyourdating ebook for more)
LIGHNING, by talking to her for hours you look like you're really desperate and needy. Women want what they can't have. Besides the less she knows about you the better, it makes you look mysterious, and it's really hard to avoid giving direct answers if talking for an hour.