Scientific data for herpes transmission. Whats the risk?

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I recently found out that a woman I thought very highly of and am very attracted to has HSV1 and HSV2.

So quickly, as a note to the rest of the community: Beauty, intelligence, and other positive attributes don't shield against STD's. It can happen to anyone. It has nothing to do with promiscuity, character, or whatever. Every time you have sex [outsite of a monogamous relationship] you take a chance. And some of us are luckier than others. Never assume it is safe to eat that pussy without a dental dam or fuck her without a condom because she is a classy girl.
Edit: Also, never assume it is safe to let her (or him) perform oral sex on you without a condom. If your partner has oral herpes, you can end up with genital herpes.

Now back to my question: What are the chances of herpes transmission? More specifically, what is the risk of transmission when the infected female partner takes Valtrex, is not in the the middle of an outbreak, and I use a condom?

I am 100% clean, and I would like to stay that way.

I have checked https://www.cdc.gov/ , https://www.drugs.com/valtrex.html , and a slew of other STD websites, but I cannot find numbers. I want statistics. Can you guys help?

For example, here is a question with a clear numeric answer: What are the chances of getting pregnant while using a latex condom and using the pill?
My box of Trojan latex condoms say 2 out of 100 women will get pregnant when using condoms correctly every time they are used. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/birth-control-pill says that 1 out of 100 women will get pregnant when taking the pill correctly. Thus the answer is 0.02 * 0.01 = 0.0002, which is 0.02%, which is 2 times out of every 10,000 acts of intercourse.

on one side she might be a keeper for being that honest with you she cares and didnt want to just hook up and infect you, on the other side if you dont have genital herpes already you are giving up a lot for a relationship that like all relationships may come to an end one day.

acromegaly;718303 said:

on one side she might be a keeper for being that honest with you she cares and didnt want to just hook up and infect you, on the other side if you dont have genital herpes already you are giving up a lot for a relationship that like all relationships may come to an end one day.

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letting him know is a good way to know she is aware of the trouble she can cause.....

I guess I should have also said there are certain risks I am willing to take.

In the example I listed before, I have taken that risk and feel comfortable doing so. 0.02% chance of knocking a girl up are pretty good odds. I'll take that risk.

Unfortunately, I have no way to calculate my risk in my current situation. If it turns out that my risk is something less than 1%, I think I'm comfortable taking those chances. However, if it turns out that having intercourse while she is not having an outbreak, shes taking Valtrex daily, and me using a condom only brings the risk down to 20%, I would not take that chance.

When I read about using condoms to prevent transmission of genital herpes, what I find is "Latex condoms help reduce transmission, but the herpes virus can be present on skin not covered by a condom, like the inner thighs". I would like to think that the CDC or WHO could assign a number to how effective condoms are for preventing Herpes transmission.

And when I read about the efficacy of Valtrex, I saw "Valtrex will reduce transmission by 30%". But I would like to know 30% of what.

Maybe I should just go to a Planned Parenthood or someplace like that. I'm guessing STD's are a big part of their daily work. I have a feeling my normal primary care doctor won't know the statistics I am looking for.

so did u smash this girl or not?

We did not have intercourse...but I wanted to. Fuck this girl is hot. So instead I fingerbanged her until she came. That was still alot of fun.

Without any good information, I have to assume there is too much risk.

Lel you guys this is an old bug-chaser creepypasta xD don't reply nomore

For those that care, I got in contact with a "Sexual Health Specialist" and she gave me some good numbers.

Unprotected risk of genital herpes transmission from female to male is 4%.

If you wear a condom, and avoid intercourse during an active breakout, and she takes a pill for herpes suppression (like Valtrex), the risk for genital herpes transmission from female to male is less than 1%

Transmission rates of male to female are much higher.

Unfortunately,the source of those numbers are the doctors she works for. I wish I could post a link to a source for you guys.

doug6082;725037 said:

For those that care, I got in contact with a "Sexual Health Specialist" and she gave me some good numbers.

Unprotected risk of genital herpes transmission from female to male is 4%.

If you wear a condom, and avoid intercourse during an active breakout, and she takes a pill for herpes suppression (like Valtrex), the risk for genital herpes transmission from female to male is less than 1%

Transmission rates of male to female are much higher.

Unfortunately,the source of those numbers are the doctors she works for. I wish I could post a link to a source for you guys.

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It gives an estimate overview but still valid. I would make the assumption the numbers will be close no matter what the source.

I know this is an old thread, but I don't see the problem here at all. HSV-1 ( coldsores, fever blisters on the mouth etc etc ) is about 70 to 90 percent of the population. For example: If your body weakens and you end up with a cold-sore on your lip, you most certainly have hsv-1. I get cold sores on my lip if I'm stressed out or have a flu ( Caught it from a kid at school who sneezed and the stuff fell on me, next day I had cold sores all around my mouth with a flu, yeah sucks! ) All the women I've been with always come back negative on their test ( LOL funny ) and I've gone down on some good ones. NOW, HSV-1 on the genitals or HSV-2 that's a different story all together. Me certainly if we were up for marriage or a ltr, I don't see the problem here. But random hook-ups? Yes I'd be more concerned and wouldn't take the risk no matter how good she looks.



I've known guys to not CARE at all and do women anyway ( bunch of vagina hounds LOL ). What I do to combat this is take l-lysine, Resveratrol and many others. I do believe in the power of herbs according to the bible and many formulas from CTM ( Chinese traditional medicine ). The problem is western pharmaceutical giants. These guys are making billions of dollars each year from people's suffering, billions man! They don't want their cash-cow to die or golden goose to be cooked & who wouldn't to be honest? If everyone is cured ( which you can be cured of Aids, HIV, syphillis, diabetes etc etc ), their reputation, money, hospitals will be in jeopardy. At the end, who cares really? It's not a death sentence at all and I didn't see cold-sores the same way. HSV2 has a huge stigma behind it, but all HSV2 is cold sores at the bottom. One thing I was surprised is how many �naked person� got it and still perform. Many actors have herpes too, yeah I know.


I once thought I had herpes down there on my dick due to P.E. Whenever I clamped, I'd get these scabs on my penis, but it was nothing after healing. Kind of freaked out, but it wasn't anything.

doug6082 said:

What are the chances of getting pregnant while using a latex condom and using the pill?

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You should always pull out before ejaculation.

doug6082 said:

HSV1 and HSV2

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I have read about this but can't remember. There is herpes that only exist in the genitalia area, and there is herpes that only exist in the face/mouth area. What I remember is that genitalia herpes can't get to the face/mouth area and also the opposite. But according to the information I get now HSV-1 can sometimes cause herpes in the genitalia area.

Okey brother. If you know this woman have herpes you should be careful...but can you really be careful? This woman is a good woman to be that honesy with you.

HSV-2 is genital herpes and HSV-1 is on the face or mouth. Two different infections.

Yes, you can contact HSV-1 on the genitals, but that’s very rare in some cases. I can’t remember, but US population has 50 to 80% cases of HSV-1 a common infection even from childhood.

Don’t quote me its been awhile since I did my research.

I have HSV-1 and never had a blister or break out so it’s highly unlikely I can transmit it to anyone. There are people that have HSV-1 and don’t even know they have it because they never had a break out, but that being said I wouldn’t sleep with someone with HSV-2. Stay clean my friend.

So I should demand a lab-report (STI screening results) from the woman, before I allow her to have sex with me?

If not, it feels like you take a big risk, especially if you feel/know the woman is highly promiscuous.

Maybe I overanylazing everything?

squirt_inducer_man said:

So I should demand a lab-report (STI screening results) from the woman, before I allow her to have sex with me?

If not, it feels like you take a big risk, especially if you feel/know the woman is highly promiscuous.

Maybe I overanylazing everything?

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You might be over analyzing it like you said. HSV-1 is not considered a STD, you have to ask to be tested for it. HSV-2 on the other hand is. You can still get HSV-1 from sex if you’re not careful.

@squirt_inducer_man

I wouldn’t freak man. Just relax.

orgasmic19 said:

@squirt_inducer_man

I wouldn’t freak man. Just relax.

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That's my brain right there. Always overanylazing things.