Pretty sure now that overstretching toughened it and now I am on a deconditioning break. Anyone who can pint me to examples of guys who have successfully ovecome this , I'll rep them.
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30th March 2009, 12:24 PM #17
Michael
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As promised, I lifted some info from another site
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Once again, I think there are 2 basic mechanisms for gain;
1 Forcing elongation of the tissues.
2 "Encouraging" growth of the tissues.
Those that have had success seem to fall into these two categories.
Those that forcefully elongate the tissues seem to make fairly good initial gains, then hit a brick wall. I think that at that point the ligaments or whatever have stretched to their max,and begin to respond with thickening and/or strengthening.
At that point a deconditioning break is needed to make any additional progress.
Those that "encourage" growth, seem to find a force level that doesn't stimulate the adaptation response of thickening/strengthening of the tissues.
They are usually using substantially less force than the 1st category, and seem to be able to make slow, steady progress over long periods of time.
I think skin can be looked at as a tissue that this applies to. If you are getting fat (slow gentle expansion of the skin) the body can produce almost unlimited expansion.
However if the expansion is too fast (as in bodybuilding,or rapid wt gain) the skin gets injured and scars ( as in stretch marks). Scarred skin is nowhere as elastic as healthy skin.
I think this is the type of responses we see in pe, and even though we are dealing with several tissue categories...I think the example is still applicable.
In my personal observations I find that forceful stretching of the tissue that will evoke a strengthening/toughening response, usually causes a rebound contraction after it is applied.
That is to say, the penis will "turtle" or shorten in response. It tends to also decrease the quality and quanity of the erectile response for a period of time.
I've been experimenting with careful daily measuring to determine the appropriate amount of time/force needed to get sustained growth.
I have been able to get a pretty good ballpark figure of what is the "right" amount of pe. If I go over it, I find that I get some contraction. If I nail it, I get small daily increases.
I've been getting my best results with this approach.
To show you how subtle this can be, I have been using 2 of Monty's pe wts for
ADS and doing well. Yesterday I went to 3. This morning when I measured, I had about 1/4 inch contraction!
Today I went back to 2 and I may take the day off from other pe, then measure either tonite or tomorrow morning and see the results.
Another example is pumping. When I pump at 2-3 in hg, for 3 sets of 5 minutes, I make progress and getting harder and more frequent erections. When I go to 5 in hg...I lose ground!
Who would have thought that so small a change is the difference between sucess and failure? But for me, it does. I suspect for many pe'ers it also applies.
I think this precise approach isn't needed when using large forces, I think you can "hammer" your penis into lengthening, but you will get limited results before hitting that "wall", where no amount of force will work. Take you for example...20lbs!!! Jesuzzz, that is a lot of wt, but yet, no further gains.
Like the old saying "you can't whip a dead horse" well, you can...but he won't move. I think its the same with the penis. Once you have "forced" as much expansion it has to give, you have to take a break and let it decondition.
Or...you can try the "encouragement" approach.
I think its a lot like learning to target shoot. If you can't see where your shot lands...how do you improve?
If you shoot a paper target, you can see if you are shooting high, low, right or left and make the correction.
If you don't carefully, daily observe your unit's response to pe, I think it makes it harder to know whether you are doing too much, too little or just right.
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