Afternoon fellas,
Just a few random thoughts here relating to motivation and expectations.
I've read through a lot of threads discussing the various reasons guys have for beginning P.E., and obviously most of them are sexual, ranging from "I want to be able to better please my partner" to "I want girls to scream in fear at the sight of my tool." But we all seem to agree that women who would base the decision of a sexual relationship only on size are scum of the earth and worth only a hate fuck, followed by being dropped off in the bad part of town.
We know that women have no concept of size, and most couldnt give an accurate measurement if you held a gun on them. So we hear them talk about their exes who are at least 8 if not 9 inches and want to go cower in the closet. Then, in a moment of clarity, we ask "how big do you think I am?"...the response? "about 8.5" lol...I'm 6.25. But back to the point. What do they want, if we are doing it for them? A friend of mine is just naturally hung. I've seen it during a 3way and would estimate its just over 9 inches and thick. Girls talk about it at length (pun intended) and they seem to line up to try him. BUT there are almost no repeat customers, from what I can gather because he has no technique, very little personality and is an egomaniac. Succinctly, he is a good looking, well hung, financially stable asshole who will be alone his entire life unless he grows up.
Some of us get it in our minds that our size is the be all and end all of sex, which can translate into relationships. Our inadequacies, real or perceived, chew at us constantly and can begin to damage current or potential relationships. Does it mean more to us than it does to women? In 90% of cases I would say absolutely. So we try to do something about it. But I think its important that we remember exactly why we are doing it. There are some guys who have started P.E. because of some humiliation they suffered at the hands of a cruel or thoughtless bitch. But its similiar to a woman's remark about your income level. Sure it hurts, but will you get another job or spend another ten years in school because of it? Those are worthy pursuits, but to do it for someone else for the wrong reason is unworthy.
ts eliot said that men go to war because women are watching. Yet how many women are hoping their man goes to the front lines? Its the perception of women's expectations that drives us to do these things, not the reality of what they desire.
Our insecurities are real, and simple rhetoric will never change them. I guess the whole point of this is that, at least for me, I have to remember that this is about me and not them. If I don't, the fear of not being able to measure up will spill into everything else and the relationship is doomed from the beginning.
I'm sure this is well travelled ground, just my two cents.
Hobogblin
Just a few random thoughts here relating to motivation and expectations.
I've read through a lot of threads discussing the various reasons guys have for beginning P.E., and obviously most of them are sexual, ranging from "I want to be able to better please my partner" to "I want girls to scream in fear at the sight of my tool." But we all seem to agree that women who would base the decision of a sexual relationship only on size are scum of the earth and worth only a hate fuck, followed by being dropped off in the bad part of town.
We know that women have no concept of size, and most couldnt give an accurate measurement if you held a gun on them. So we hear them talk about their exes who are at least 8 if not 9 inches and want to go cower in the closet. Then, in a moment of clarity, we ask "how big do you think I am?"...the response? "about 8.5" lol...I'm 6.25. But back to the point. What do they want, if we are doing it for them? A friend of mine is just naturally hung. I've seen it during a 3way and would estimate its just over 9 inches and thick. Girls talk about it at length (pun intended) and they seem to line up to try him. BUT there are almost no repeat customers, from what I can gather because he has no technique, very little personality and is an egomaniac. Succinctly, he is a good looking, well hung, financially stable asshole who will be alone his entire life unless he grows up.
Some of us get it in our minds that our size is the be all and end all of sex, which can translate into relationships. Our inadequacies, real or perceived, chew at us constantly and can begin to damage current or potential relationships. Does it mean more to us than it does to women? In 90% of cases I would say absolutely. So we try to do something about it. But I think its important that we remember exactly why we are doing it. There are some guys who have started P.E. because of some humiliation they suffered at the hands of a cruel or thoughtless bitch. But its similiar to a woman's remark about your income level. Sure it hurts, but will you get another job or spend another ten years in school because of it? Those are worthy pursuits, but to do it for someone else for the wrong reason is unworthy.
ts eliot said that men go to war because women are watching. Yet how many women are hoping their man goes to the front lines? Its the perception of women's expectations that drives us to do these things, not the reality of what they desire.
Our insecurities are real, and simple rhetoric will never change them. I guess the whole point of this is that, at least for me, I have to remember that this is about me and not them. If I don't, the fear of not being able to measure up will spill into everything else and the relationship is doomed from the beginning.
I'm sure this is well travelled ground, just my two cents.
Hobogblin
