Questions on Sleeping with the PF

Fillerup · Nov 1, 2017

My PF should be arriving in the mail in a week or so, and I've been wondering about the possibilities revolving around sleeping with it on. I think an all-night stretcher is perhaps it's greatest strength, but am curious about how it can be worn during sleep. Is having the belt around the waist the only way to wear it? What about attached to the knee, or better yet, over the shoulder so that your unit is pointing straight up. Has anybody tried these variations? I kind of like the idea of pointing straight up, but don't know if the belt is long enough, or whether or not it would be uncomfortable and interfere with sleep. Maybe some of you have come up with other ideas. If so, I'd like to hear about them.

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Fillerup

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

I have only tried wearing my PF at night once but I had to take it off after about 3 hours. It was no fault of the device as I had done a BM session prior to going to bed so I had to wear the large sleeve. After the 3 hours my post BM expansion started to decline and it started slipping. There is another member here that uses his with great success at night. The thread is in the Phallosan forum, I will try to find the thread as he gives an alternative to wearing the belt around the waist. He said that he puts the belt around his foot and I would think that there are other places you could secure the belt depending on how you sleep

Fillerup · Nov 1, 2017

Lookn4girth;744510 said:
I have only tried wearing my PF at night once but I had to take it off after about 3 hours. It was no fault of the device as I had done a BM session prior to going to bed so I had to wear the large sleeve. After the 3 hours my post BM expansion started to decline and it started slipping. There is another member here that uses his with great success at night. The thread is in the Phallosan forum, I will try to find the thread as he gives an alternative to wearing the belt around the waist. He said that he puts the belt around his foot and I would think that there are other places you could secure the belt depending on how you sleep

Yeah, it appears doing girth work (BM) in conjunction with the PF could be problematic. Even if you go your girth routine in the morning, you're still going to have the same slippage problem during the day. Not sure what the solution is, other than suspending girth work until your desired length is achieved, and then resume. Seems a shame to do it that way, although I should point out that the folks at PF say it increases girth as well.

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

I would not put much faith in the increase in girth claim. I am not saying that it would not help with girth but I think it would be minimal at best. The method that I have found that works best is wearing the PF all day and then doing my BM and LM sessions in the evening. It does limit your ability to wear the PF at night but I get 8 or more good hours of stretching with it during the day

DLD · Nov 1, 2017

Lookn4girth;744521 said:
I would not put much faith in the increase in girth claim. I am not saying that it would not help with girth but I think it would be minimal at best. The method that I have found that works best is wearing the PF all day and then doing my BM and LM sessions in the evening. It does limit your ability to wear the PF at night but I get 8 or more good hours of stretching with it during the day

With any stretching tool or exercise there will always be an increase in base girth. The heavier the weight, intensity or power used the thicker the base becomes. But for the remainder of the penis girth work should be done.

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

doublelongdaddy;744524 said:
With any stretching tool or exercise there will always be an increase in base girth. The heavier the weight, intensity or power used the thicker the base becomes. But for the remainder of the penis girth work should be done.

That explains my base girth increasing and rolling the PF condom up a little. Now when I get that girth to work its way up the shaft and have the need to go to the large, it will be party time

Fillerup · Nov 1, 2017

Lookn4girth;744521 said:
I would not put much faith in the increase in girth claim. I am not saying that it would not help with girth but I think it would be minimal at best. The method that I have found that works best is wearing the PF all day and then doing my BM and LM sessions in the evening. It does limit your ability to wear the PF at night but I get 8 or more good hours of stretching with it during the day

Have you considered doing your LM sessions in the morning? The reasoning here is that the LM stretches "break down" the tissue, then the application of the Phallosan allows the penis to heal in a stretched state. Just some thoughts.

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

Fillerup;744527 said:
Have you considered doing your LM sessions in the morning? The reasoning here is that the LM stretches "break down" the tissue, then the application of the Phallosan allows the penis to heal in a stretched state. Just some thoughts.

I would like to do it that way but with trying to get kids off to work and ready for school I would have to get up at 4 or 5, lol

Fillerup · Nov 1, 2017

Lookn4girth;744529 said:
I would like to do it that way but with trying to get kids off to work and ready for school I would have to get up at 4 or 5, lol

Point made!

Chaoskampf · Nov 1, 2017

Once the bell gets tight, the penis stays where it is. It doesn't slip anymore. Back in time I had fluid retention at the backside of the glans which meant there was space for air to come in. I am not trying any other attachment methods than around the waist. My leg is moving so I will not attach it there. Sleeping with the Phallosan is tough for me atleast. If you sleep on your back it should be fine. If you wear clothes during night it should help.

There is no girth claim but a study which shows how much those people gained in girth. 0.64cm=0.25" on average after 3 months. 0.80cm=0.3" on average after 6 months.

I think that the tissue tries to counteract the tension forces by increasing the cross section which then lowers the stress on the tissue. Therefore a girth gain. But that is jusy my simple theory.

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

I got to thinking about your previous question about doing a LM session in the morning and you may be on to something. While someone may not have time to do a full routine, it may be possible to do 5 minutes of bundled stretches prior to putting on the PF. If I understand correctly, the bundled stretch is to aid in breaking down the tunica. Maybe one of the pros could weigh in on this idea and see if I am on the right track

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

Chaoskampf;744534 said:
Once the bell gets tight, the penis stays where it is. It doesn't slip anymore. Back in time I had fluid retention at the backside of the glans which meant there was space for air to come in. I am not trying any other attachment methods than around the waist. My leg is moving so I will not attach it there. Sleeping with the Phallosan is tough for me atleast. If you sleep on your back it should be fine. If you wear clothes during night it should help.

There is no girth claim but a study which shows how much those people gained in girth. 0.64cm=0.25" on average after 3 months. 0.80cm=0.3" on average after 6 months.

I think that the tissue tries to counteract the tension forces by increasing the cross section which then lowers the stress on the tissue. Therefore a girth gain. But that is jusy my simple theory.

Chaos, wouldn't the bell getting tight be an indication to go up to the next size or are you meaning it just being a snug fit?

Chaoskampf · Nov 1, 2017

Lookn4girth;744551 said:
Chaos, wouldn't the bell getting tight be an indication to go up to the next size or are you meaning it just being a snug fit?

That's the thing. We had this discussion yesterday about the size of the bell. Some people were really angry that there are not enough big sized bells. You can go up as long as SwissSana is producing. But if you stick to the smaller size you will have other benefits.

Before I started using Vacuum devices I thought that the vacuum would hold everything in place. Therefore I wanted to have large chambers so that I could train for a big mushroom head at the same time as stretching. But it turned out that the friction on the wall is the most important thing for fixing the glans. The Phallosan is tricky sometimes. Right now it has bulletproof suction. I don't know what happened at other days. Sometimes you think the pump is broken but then it turns out that it comes from something else.

Lookn4girth · Nov 1, 2017

Chaoskampf;744583 said:
That's the thing. We had this discussion yesterday about the size of the bell. Some people were really angry that there are not enough big sized bells. You can go up as long as SwissSana is producing. But if you stick to the smaller size you will have other benefits.

Before I started using Vacuum devices I thought that the vacuum would hold everything in place. Therefore I wanted to have large chambers so that I could train for a big mushroom head at the same time as stretching. But it turned out that the friction on the wall is the most important thing for fixing the glans. The Phallosan is tricky sometimes. Right now it has bulletproof suction. I don't know what happened at other days. Sometimes you think the pump is broken but then it turns out that it comes from something else.

I think I understand what you are saying. If I am reading correctly, you can still benefit from the glans not going in to the bell completely as long as you can get suction to hold it all in place thus creating more suction on the glans and possibly increasing the size of the head, does this sound right?

Fillerup · Nov 1, 2017

Lookn4girth;744601 said:
I think I understand what you are saying. If I am reading correctly, you can still benefit from the glans not going in to the bell completely as long as you can get suction to hold it all in place thus creating more suction on the glans and possibly increasing the size of the head, does this sound right?

I'm wondering if not having the glans right up tight against the bell walls may result in an increased risk of blisters. Hard to form a blister if there's no room, but if there's empty space? Could be an issue.

Lookn4girth · Nov 2, 2017

Fillerup;744668 said:
I'm wondering if not having the glans right up tight against the bell walls may result in an increased risk of blisters. Hard to form a blister if there's no room, but if there's empty space? Could be an issue.

I am not sure but it sounds feasible

Chaoskampf · Nov 2, 2017

Oh sorry, the glans is in all the way all the time. But it becomes more difficult to get it in. That is what I meant. Talking about blisters: Any kind of protection or wrapping should deal with that. Whenever I used Phallosan without a protection or wrapping my glans became very bright. Even after weeks. Otherwise you could use it without any protection - if the bells would fit normally.

If the bell is already tight you won't get in without wrapping or protector cap because it will just hurt so much on the skin when it gets squeezed against the walls. Babypowder and waterproof tape is my friend at the time.

Lookn4girth · Nov 2, 2017

Chaoskampf;744704 said:
Oh sorry, the glans is in all the way all the time. But it becomes more difficult to get it in. That is what I meant. Talking about blisters: Any kind of protection or wrapping should deal with that. Whenever I used Phallosan without a protection or wrapping my glans became very bright. Even after weeks. Otherwise you could use it without any protection - if the bells would fit normally.

If the bell is already tight you won't get in without wrapping or protector cap because it will just hurt so much on the skin when it gets squeezed against the walls. Babypowder and waterproof tape is my friend at the time.

Thanks for the clarification chaos

gettingmassive123 · Nov 20, 2018

Getting a PF soon and used to used the Static Stretcher (had the same clear bell head part). I always had to use Johnson and Johnson Secure-Comfort tape all over my glans to avoid blistering. Do you have to do this or something like this with the PF? J&J doesn't make the breathable tape anymore!

Randolpho · Nov 20, 2018

gettingmassive123 said:
I always had to use Johnson and Johnson Secure-Comfort tape all over my glans to avoid blistering. Do you have to do this or something like this with the PF? J&J doesn't make the breathable tape anymore!

The PF comes with a protective glans cap to prevent this type of issue. One thing I would highly recommend is that you ditch the sleeve condoms that come with the unit. Find you some silicone sleeves to use instead. It will be much more comfortable and prevent loss of suction.

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