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There have always been 2 main reason's that have always drawn me to Penis Enlargement. One is the obvious... A bigger penis is apealing. The second is the quest for knowledge and more specifically, why some people gain and some don't... even whenever the guy's that don't experience any gain's, claim they had a good workout and are sore (in a good way)... but no matter how hard they tried and no matter how much they felt sore, they still had no gains...

I believe that if we take into consideration all the variables/principles that make Penis Enlargement possible....dare I say... we can come up with the perfect routine (excluding genetics). Now, I know this sound's corny, but please bare with me...

I believe I have a legitamite theory for this perfect routine, that has actually been posted in chunk's of information/idea's, but never in complete form... Please excuse me if this theory has been presented before, as I have not read it yet. Again, you may have read some of the information I'm about to present, but I haven't read any post putting it all together like this.

It all starts with the connective tissues that make up the penis (including the ligs that are targeted with the DLD Blasters).
In the penis it'self, there is connective tissue that helps hold together it's structure of the more "meat-like-tissue".

I'll start by summerizing the actions of connective tissues, because I believe that this is the primary reason why some guy's gain and some guy's don't.....................................

AND, it has nothing to do with wether you effectively hit the ligs and/or the connective tissues of the penis it'self, BUT, by also taking into consideration a couple variables/principles.....

STATES OF STRETCH

As some of you may have read before, connective tissues tend to have 2 different stretching "mechanism's" (for the lack of a better word):

-ONE, is the elastic stretch , wich is applied when stretching the penis for a short duration... and typically, these guy's use more intensity to make up for the lack of time working out.

Pro's: You are able to stretch out the penis and cause pretty good fatigue due to more intensity.

Con's: The connective tissue that makes up the penis tend's to retract back to the normal size rather quickly, due to activating the "emergency response" also known as the "stretch reflex" of the connective tissue. Because connective tissues making up the penis contracted back to the original size before it has time to repair, your penis (along with the more "meat-like" tissue) will heal in that prior state. Resulting in very little, if any gains.

-TWO, is the plastic stretch , wich is when the connective tissues of the penis (as well as the ligs) are put under stress/stretch for a longer duration... and typically less intensity. These guy's frequently use devices that use traction as a method (wich you can get an idea of, when you see an african tribal woman who ad's rings around her neck, stretching her neck out slowly over the years)

Pro's: If you stick with it long enough, you'll get some good concrete gains, due to your penis being under stress/stretch , for a loonnnnggggg duration (typically hour's a day).

While your body recycle's and renew's body-cell's (part of your body's natural process), the cell's in your penis are adapting to the stretch 'd penis, by adding new and/or bigger cell's in place of the old cell's.

Also, since it's already been proven that the ligaments and other connective tissues tend to stay in the stretched state if they have been stretched for a longer duration (due to acting more plastic in nature than elastic), then you have really no worry of the "stretch reflex" contracting your penis (and all the "meat-like-tissue) back to it's previous state.

Con's: It takes a long freakin time due to the low intensity, and a lot of guys tend to get discouraged, thinking that they are failing some how... that the law's of nature don't apply to them.

Now, I know some of you may have read similar things before... but please bare with me...

If we already know that the penis contract's back to it's original size after an intense workout (due to the "stretch reflex" of the connective tissues), then how is the penis going to grow bigger if it's not in the stretch 'd state while being repaired?!?!

My theory simply state's that for one to have a very effective routine, they should do both...BECAUSE...

PLAN 1

If a guy start's off in the morning with a very intense routine, putting the penis into a fatigued state and then regularly stretching the penis throughout the day, (or using a traction device, ADS, peg-leg, etc.), every day, then you would be capatilizing on the previous fatigue-state and therefore keeping the penis stretched to the max durring heal-time....

You are now getting the best of both world's (intensity and plasticity), completing the circle and eliminating all the know'n variables that limit Penis Enlargement gains (at least that I'm aware of).

OPTION 2

For an alternative, you could also do some short, intense hanging /stretching around 3-5 times a day instead of just one time a day.
Again, you would be capatilizing on the previous fatigued state due to the prior intense workout and also getting the benefits of the plasticity.

CONCLUSION

Now, these 2 particular plans also have another positive law going for them. The "shock". If you are causing all this "micro-trauma" to the penis, never allowing your penis to completely heal, then your body will go into an emergency state and try to catch up with the trauma, causing a faster rate of repair... but you must also not overdue it.

Now, I know some people have gained rather succesfully with short duration/high intensity workout's.... but, I believe that this has to due with the diversity in genetic makeup, from person to person... and how well/easily the connective tissues react to stress according to their genetic maekeup (it's the typical hardgainer/easygainer variable)

This is a little theory I came up with after reading alot of freakin thread's and studying human anatomy, physiology, kinesiology, physic's, etc... and also my result's after being the typical hardgainer and having to settle for less than what I put into it. This took me awhile to put into words, but I would still like to hear your opinion's on this theory and if you could compliment it by adding other variable's.

I know we'll never find the "Best" workout (due to genetics), but I think we can come pretty close if we start taking into consideration the know'n variables that cause and limit Penis Enlargement gains.

Peace
 
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Sure :),

I believe it goes back to the "shock" variable...

For the guy's that make gain's when first starting out, I believe the results are just like if you would start lifting for the first time.......OK, I know we really should'nt compare bodybuilding to Penis Enlargement, BUT, I believe it's relevant as far as how the human body reacts and adapts to stress....

So, as I was saying... If you subject your body to an unusual stress that it's not use to, then it will tend to adapt...
BUT, for the typical hardgainer that decide's to do short duration at high intensity Penis Enlargement, then I believe that they are hindering their gain's. They may gain a little, but nothing really noticeble....And also...

As far as gains being harder to achieve down the road, I would say it goes back to the way the body adapts (what I said above)...

For instance, if you performed a short duration, high intensity Penis Enlargement workout and then didn't do any "maintinance work" throughout the day (such as ads, stretching every couple hours, etc.), then your connective tissues will contract back to the prior size, taking the meat-like-tissue with it...and of course would heal much stronger in the contracted state... and that would make it harder for you to get the proper amount of fatigue for future results.

If you read this right, then you can understand the infinate loop some of these guy's are running themselve's around in...................

Short, high-intensity workout... rest too long...penis contract back to the normal size (via elasticity in connective tissues).....connective tissues get stronger in the prior contracted state (because it didn't have enough time to heal in the stretched state), etc, etc, etc.....

And it start's over and over and over, round and round and round....

So basically, because of the elasticity of the connective tissue causing the penis to contract back to the original state of size.... I believe it's essential to do some"maintanance" work throughout the day (ads , peg-leg, manual stretching , short high intensity hanging /stretching , etc.) to keep the penis in the enlarged state durring "heal-time" AND to keep the connective tissues from ever fully healling until you've made some noticable gains... but not to over do it.

PS. I think I used the word "retract" in the opening post when I should have used the word "contract" with regards to to penis/connective tissue "contracting" back to the prior state.
If I confused some of you, sorry... I'm not the best with words ;)

Peace


This theory seems very true.

Could you also tie in why beginners have quick good gains, and from that point making later on gains could be much harder?"
 
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I've seen people who've suggested the same thing, but not so eloquently. I have to say though, I don't fit into your theory. I'm one of those easy length gainers who does a short intense session once a day, and my gains are plain in my sig. I think this is due to genetics, and in order to fit your theory, we can say that because of my genetics, my "emergency respnse" time is slower, so i don't need to do maintenance during the day.

You say you're a hardgainer - have you benefitted from the techniques you described?
 
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If we already know that the penis contract's back to it's original size after an intense workout (due to the "stretch reflex" of the connective tissues), then how is the penis going to grow bigger if it's not in the stretch 'd state while being repaired?!?!
PLAN 1

If a guy start's off in the morning with a very intense routine, putting the penis into a fatigued state and then regularly stretching the penis throughout the day, (or using a traction device, ADS, peg-leg, etc.), every day, then you would be capatilizing on the previous fatigue-state and therefore keeping the penis stretched to the max durring heal-time....

You are now getting the best of both world's (intensity and plasticity), completing the circle and eliminating all the know'n variables that limit Penis Enlargement gains (at least that I'm aware of).

OPTION 2

For an alternative, you could also do some short, intense hanging /stretching around 3-5 times a day instead of just one time a day.
Again, you would be capatilizing on the previous fatigued state due to the prior intense workout and also getting the benefits of the plasticiy.

Now, I know some people have gained rather succesfully with short duration/high intensity workout's.... but, I believe that this has to due with the diversity in genetic makeup, from person

I know we'll never find the "Best" workout (due to genetics),

Peace
Your a thinker good for you! We need more thinkers in pe!
option 3 do the intense morning work out, and then stretch out
every time you go to the bathroom all day long.

The best workout is what works best for you, at the time you workout. as what works best now didn't work at all last year
if you you get my drift.
good food for thought thou.
LT:)
 
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Good ideas, really. I dont care what others think about my idea here. But, from the many men I have spoken with...creaping up on 5 years involvement with Penis Enlargement and the various forums....and from my own personal experience....95% of the time...the men who are not gaining either admit (eventually) to not doing a very committed program. Either because they dont want it bad enough ...so they dont bother making the committment to a dedicated routine. Or, they for one reason or another do not have enough time to do the work required to see the results they want. There are a few guys once in a while who honest-to-gawd cannot squeeze any extra time out of their daily schedule...the unfortunate few. The rest, just dont have the desire to do so.
 
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There are some really good ideas out there. But, like in business or a relationship ya gotta be persistent and dedicated even when things are not going well. In a small sense my first couple of weeks were "balls to the wall" then the newness wears off. Thats when you have to redouble your efforts so you don't get "whatever" about it and fall off. Thats why I think the ideas of positive thinking and visualization come in. I believe it was Its Electric who came up with the paper roll that was his goal. That was a great pic that gave me motivation so I did the same. Now, Penis Enlargement is something that will not become a chore to do. goodluck
 
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I belive what ur saying because 2-3 days before i had my first 3-sum i had worked out hard in the morning and continued to stretch all through the day.By the 2nd day my dick looked almost an inch longer
 
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You say you're a hardgainer - have you benefitted from the techniques you described?
Yes, I have gained in the past and am currently, due to this method.


I belive some of the theory, it works to a certain degree I think but aint always the case.
Guys still gain really well from doing normal stretches in the day/night and resting without constant stretching [ADS ] as you put it.
I have worked with guys at PP who have meade immense gains from doing the most simple small workouts.

I see where you got the theory from, its a goodone but it sounds as though guys cant gain well unless they ADS, which is rubbish.
Doing stretches / jelq work normally like many do will suffice and aint a problem.
I myself dont do LOADS of sessions, not many these days ... but when I do I HAMMER my dick like no tommorow, I aint lost any gains, infact rest days make me larger.
REDZULU2003

Actually, I gained by not using an ads, but instead I started to perform manual stretches (maintinance work) throughout the day, after my more intense hanging or stretching session. I would also jelq before bed. Sometimes when I was feeling into it, I would go with a few hang session's throughout the day (although, rarely) or a few jelq sessions throughout the day.

Again, I totally know that there are some guy's out there who can grow just by imagining themselves doing Penis Enlargement...it ain't fair. They just seem to grow no matter what they do. But, I believe that because of the sensitivity that a few people have of the connective tissues (genetic issue) contracting too close back to the original size (before it's had time to heal), It's hindering their gain's when they could keep the stretch maintained throughout the day, while the penis repairs in that state... of course, all while listening to your body so you don't get injured.

And I agree, rest is essential... but as long as you don't overtrain, you'll get plenty of recovery. In other words, after the more intense workout in the morning, you would then do just enough work where you're maintaining the tissues of the penis out to the max stretched-state from the previous stretching/hanging...no more, no less. Since your penis has already stretched that far, then all you have to do is just keep the max stretch maintained and let the recovery do it's thing. Every now and then, you'll feel the need to do another high-intensity workout, and then continue with the maintanance and so on and so on...
 
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Your a thinker good for you! We need more thinkers in pe!
option 3 do the intense morning work out, and then stretch out
every time you go to the bathroom all day long.

The best workout is what works best for you, at the time you workout. as what works best now didn't work at all last year
if you you get my drift.
good food for thought thou.
LT
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Thanks LT, I appreciate the comment. That's a very effective routine that you've mentioned...It worked for me anyway's and still does.

Peace
 
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I agree totally with you Slicedbeef! I have always believed in this idea, and used this method in my Penis Enlargement! It just makes sense to me. I've touched upon it some in the past, in a few of my postings (even though I don't post that much), but your explanation of this concept is spot on!! Well done and well written!!!

Girthius
 
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Good ideas, really. I dont care what others think about my idea here.
Thanks... me neather.

But, from the many men I have spoken with...creaping up on 5 years involvement with Penis Enlargement and the various forums....and from my own personal experience....95% of the time...the men who are not gaining either admit (eventually) to not doing a very committed program. Either because they dont want it bad enough ...so they dont bother making the committment to a dedicated routine. Or, they for one reason or another do not have enough time to do the work required to see the results they want. There are a few guys once in a while who honest-to-gawd cannot squeeze any extra time out of their daily schedule...the unfortunate few. The rest, just dont have the desire to do so.
SWM

I tatally agree, commitment and the tenacity to just go with the workout no matter what, is essential to having success. I've come to believe that success in Penis Enlargement requires the mindset of getting in there and doing your stretching, hanging, jelqing, whatever you do for Penis Enlargement...and just doing it...even if you "don't feel like".
 
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So instead of me just doing my stretching routine at night and leaving it until the following night, you suggest throughout the day (when i go to the toilet for example) just stretching it for 30 seconds here and there, I would have thought this would have hindered gains but if what you say is true (it does sound very plausible) then I will start doing that as from tomorrow.
What would you say, give it a good stretch every hour or half hour?
Thanx and I appreciate your input on the matter, well done!
 
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I'm confused about that, its like saying"Instead of working out at the gym, i'll just throw some weights around for 3 minutes every hour" doesn't seem very effective
 
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I agree totally with you Slicedbeef! I have always believed in this idea, and used this method in my Penis Enlargement! It just makes sense to me. I've touched upon it some in the past, in a few of my postings (even though I don't post that much), but your explanation of this concept is spot on!! Well done and well written!!!
Girthius

Hey, I definantly didn't get all this information my self... I've gotten probably most of it from alot of different post's that people like yourself contributed too. From what I already knew about human anatomy and physiology, it all just seem's to come together into a set of scientific variables that just tend to fall into place... It's worked and is still working for me anyway's...

Peace.
 

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after hearing N'Y' post in here about his 1 inch increase from ADS in the day I am gunna give her another shot, dunno when,,,but the third leg will be used, that tribal thing.
 
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So instead of me just doing my stretching routine at night and leaving it until the following night, you suggest throughout the day (when i go to the toilet for example) just stretching it for 30 seconds here and there, I would have thought this would have hindered gains but if what you say is true (it does sound very plausible) then I will start doing that as from tomorrow.
What would you say, give it a good stretch every hour or half hour?
Thanx and I appreciate your input on the matter, well done!
LeeJunFan


Hi,

You can still do your night workout (best if you go with a higher intensity) and this will cause the fatigue of the penis and/or ligs because it's the more intense workout.
To keep the connective tissues that make up your penis expanded/stretched (because remember, the nature of connective tissue is to somewhat contract back to normal size), it's suggested that you do some extra "maintanance works" throughout the day, so that your penis and it's structure will stay in the stretched state and it will heal more so in the stretched state.
 
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Ok cool, so tonight I will do my normal routine and as for tomorrow would you reccomend every hour just to keep it stretched?
Thanx again!
 
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I'm confused about that, its like saying"Instead of working out at the gym, i'll just throw some weights around for 3 minutes every hour" doesn't seem very effective
FallenOne

Hi,

I think you missed the part where I suggested that you SHOULD do a High Intensity workout to cause the fatigue and then you do the "maintinance" throughout the day (jelqs, stretches , etc.) to keep the connective tissues of the penis, in the expanded state as the penis heals.

Let me ask you something... Let's say you worked really hard durring a good high-intensity workout and you feel some good fatique going on... your feeling happy bacause you had a good workout. Then, why would you wan't/allow the connective tissues to cause the penis to contract back to the original size all before it had a chance to adapt and heal?

As far as comparing it to bodybuilding, I see what your saying, but you can't really compare enlarging the penis with enlarging your muscles in this particular context.

penis enlargement is done more so through a passive exercise...you don't just sit there and throw some weights on your penis and start flex'n. ;)

Also, the penis is made up of an entirely different tissue that has it's strucure held together by connective tissue.

And as far as strength training goes, check out some of Pavel Tsatsouline's work or get Supertraining by Dr. Mel Siff... and you'll find out that some of the top strength athlete's actually workout a rep or two short of failure with max weight's (1-5 sets of 2-5 reps) performed many time's a day... they get results by keeping themselve's fresh and stimulating the nervous system a "relative-strength" gain.

Peace
 
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Ok cool, so tonight I will do my normal routine and as for tomorrow would you reccomend every hour just to keep it stretched?
Thanx again!
LeeJunFan

That sound's real good. All you got to do is keep your penis stretched/engorged out to the max (or close to it), durring the healing stage...without hurting yourself. Your penis should feel fatigued, soft and stretchy... not overworked or strained.

-If you are starting to feel a little overworked, then back off a little *a little* while listening to your body.

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If this theory is correct it might explain how I've been able to make faster girth gains than most.

I don't stick to set routine. I just Penis Enlargement very aggressively multiple times a day.
 

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