Pirate Seduction 101

PirateSteve

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Until very recently I thought this seduction stuff was bogus and unnecessary. Recently it was shown to me to be a useful and perhaps even necessary body of knowledge. But I have also spent a great deal of time myself observing and interviewing women the last few years. And I found it does not have to be nearly so hard, not so much to memorize and practice. You don’t need tricks and games, you don’t need to learn magic or palm reading. If you have a real life, and do interesting things without thinking of or trying to impress women, I mean a real life like hobbies, travel, bungee jumping, parachuting fun kind of stuff - then women will be attracted to you and you will need none of this "seduction" stuff. Most guys are movies, dinner and TV sports. What the Hell kind of girl would be excited by that? Do stuff, real stuff, and women will find you fascinating.

Tip 2: Forget "seduction" and "how to pick up girls". Learn how to dance (Gardenier got this one right on the mark!) Pay for lessons or find a bar that gives group ones for free or cheap, and go. Master dancing. Make it part of your life, part of your recreation. Then, dance with every woman you can get your arms on. They see you can dance, and few will ever turn you down. Forget trying to pick them up. Just dance. They will pick you up after they see you are 1) fun, 2) not just after sex, and 3) in demand by beautiful women.

It's a Hell of a lot easier (and quicker) to learn how to dance than it is to get a longer dick! I didn't know how to dance at all until I took private lessons five years ago. If I can learn, brain damaged and over 40, anybody can learn. I have one friend who is the most uncoordinated, clunky guy in the world. I remember chicks laughing at him at the HS dances. After a year of dance lessons and another few of dancing, dancing, dancing - he wins ballroom competitions regularly. He met his wife at a ballroom dance, and she is drop dead gorgeous (he is the son of Frankenstein in looks and coordination). He is still uncoordinated and clunky. But man can he dance. And man do the chicks love him now.

If I had to live under a bridge, eat out of Wendy's dumpster and collect bottles to save enough money to pay for dance lessons, I would. It is that big a thing. It is more important than a big dick, more important than fancy clothes or good looks or a pocket full of money or a good pickup line or perfect macking skills. If I had a son, he would have been in lessons as soon as they would take him. Even if you only want one girl for life, she will be SO much happier staying years with you if you take her dancing on special occasions. If you are already married and can't dance, well, that would pretty much explain the infrequent sex. To women, all women, dancing is romance. And women live for romance like we live for sex. Take the damn lessons. Start today.

Tip 3: Forget lines, cold pickups is a NUMBERS GAME. Hit on enough women, and one will go home with you no matter what you say or do. I take young men who have trouble getting laid to bars in groups, and make them all put money in a pot (by the way this idea, like dancing, is in no way original - I met a guy once a few years back doing this with a group and I have been doing it ever since). Each guy has to have a pen and some paper for phone numbers. Then, each has to get turned down by 10 women of the groups choosing. To win the pot, you must get 10 rejections (to score one must just get a phone number, a rejection is not getting one). By the end of the evening, the guys see that rejection is not personal, and that if they hit on a few women, they will score. They also have a great deal of peer pressure to make the hits, which helps with courage. Plus, since they are trying to get turned down, their egos are not at stake nearly so much. Sometimes, I take them out again, put money in the pot, and the guy who wins gets the MOST numbers. That's fun too.

Tip 4: Last Call. When I feel especially lazy and evil, I will take an evening nap, take a shower , dress nicely and go to a bar 10 minutes before closing time. I look around like a radar and rate the unattached women in seconds. I start with the prettiest girl first, and see if she wants to share some wine on my boat. If she says no, I go to number 2, then 3, and so on. I am stone sober, at the top of my game, and I look and smell as good as I ever will. I have yet to go past number 4, and usually hit on number 1 or 2. I have also picked up a number of pairs of girls this way, as girls tend to sit with their friends and I invite them both back. Evil, yes. Skill involved - 0. Girls screwed - countless. Three ways - quite a few. Many a girl wakes up in shock at who she is with in the morning, and in Norfolk the dockhands even call the walk up the dock from my boat to the showers the "walk of shame", but it is so easy anyone can do it. No expensive classes needed, no lies either. But I admit it is a bit evil.

Tip 5: Hotel Bars are a bonanza. Girls leave home for seminars and stay in hotels. They are bored silly all day, and are dying for some excitement, romance, and a story to go home with. A bonus is there is a new batch each week, and none of them have heard anything about you yet (which for me is usually a good thing). At a club, girls play hard to get. At a hotel bar, they do not. If you want sex instead of a phone number, go to a hotel bar. Another bonus is that because the girls don't live in the area, they are willing to do things they would never do at home. Use your imagination. I find hotel girls will almost always do a three way with no hesitation, many will kiss other girls right in the bar if prompted. I always try to stay in marinas that are attached to hotels for just this reason.

Which brings me to Tip #6: Never, NEVER drink alcohol when hitting on chicks. You get stupid. I always tip the bartender well, the waitress well, and arrange for them to bring me non-alcohol drinks no matter what I order in front of a girl. I end up winning every time for no other reason than that they get drunk while I do not. Added bonus; If some guy starts hitting on a chick you are working, it is really easy to drink him under the table and out of the game in short order. Again, pure evil.

Tip #7: Country Western Bars. If you are a guy with two left feet, but want to get in on the dancing bonanza, CW is your way in the door. Most places have free line dancing lessons early in the evenings on weekends, call around and you will likely find one close enough to try out. Get some cheap cowboy boots at Walmart, put on your jeans, and boy howdy you are ready to go. CW doesn’t use the arms much, and you don’t need to master hip movements - mostly just easy, fun steps that even Frankenstein can master. You will meet plenty of girls at the group lesson, and since they are inexperienced too they will want to dance with you all night as opposed to with the better dancers. Even you Fred Astair’s will find CW bars an easier pickup than other clubs. I don’t know what it is about CW chicks, but they are all more friendly and much more easily hit on than in any other dance club venue. Even if you hate the music, you will love the girls.

Tip #8: Just for you college guys. If you are in college, this tip is the one that will change everything about your entire college experience: Take ballet class as an elective. I don’t exactly remember how I came to find myself in Ballet 101 back in my Sophomore year, but I thank God I did. Girls that take ballet are, for the most part, trim, good looking, exciting, fun women. The kind I would never had ever had a shot with at the time. In my class, there was one other guy besides me, and he was gay. Yes, I had to wear some awful leotard thing and this other thing that rode up my ass and squished my balls. And yes, I had to take some awful ribbing from my mates - for a while (of course they ALL took Ballet 101 the next semester). But I was the only eligible guy in a class of twenty gorgeous women. Now to be clear, I was hopeless at it. The teacher told me I would never be a dancer and I pretty much spent two semesters doing nothing more than lifting beautiful girls in the air so they could practice their leaps with the Neanderthal as base. Since I was careful NOT to hit on the girls (I was there to dance!), they all fell in love with the poor klutz that loved ballet but would never be able to dance (poor pirate!)

These girls would go to lunch with me after class, hang out with me at school functions, invite me up to their dorms and sororities for dance lessons. Any classes we shared they would sit next to me, and they even took me out regularly in groups to teach me how to dance at the clubs, and would call me individually to take them out when they wanted to go or were lonely. I think every one of them set me up with at least one other girl. Me, joe nobody on campus all the sudden was seen everywhere with beautiful women. And not just one, but in packs. I was the only guy I knew in college that could make a few calls and get 6 dates to go dancing, sailing, biking, pretty much anything. And if the ballet girls weren’t enough, other girls saw me with them all the time and they started approaching me too. As I said, I was very careful never to actually hit on the ballet girls. After a time, several threw themselves at me. The rest just accepted me as their mascot and fixed me up with all their friends. I was rolling in chicks the rest of college - even the two years I didn’t take ballet. I have since talked a number of young men into taking ballet. All of them tell me they owe me their lives. Some of them didn’t make out quite as well as I did, some made out way better, but they all made out.

And if you are the kind of guy that wants only one special girl, not endless sex with dozens, this is still a great way to go. Ballet girls are class acts, beautiful and smart. Several of my “pupils” have had wonderful relationships with girls they met in Ballet class. I even have one friend who has been married to a girl he met in Ballet class for years. Seems she has this crazy notion he is sensitive and loves the arts. If she only knew...
 
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stevie31

Member
Great post, Pirate! You really need to write a book with all the knowledge you have in the seduction department. Thanks for sharing with us it for free though!
 

ladylove

Member
This was a good post. Tip two will get you in the door everytime.

OH and did your friend, really start off as two left feet and is now winning dance competitions. This is something I want to do, but felt I was to old for it.

Tip 3 sounds like a lot of fun. I might try it to help me get out of my shyness.
 

PirateSteve

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Love,

Now that I think of it, every one of those tips would work for a shy girl except the last one. Of course any horny girl can walk into any bar, announce she will have sex with the best guy that comes on to her (or the best two :p ), and go home a winner - so the tips really aren't necessary for you fairer sex so much...

Yes, my friend was and is the most uncoordinated guy I have ever met. He is tall and lanky, and walks as if he is moving merely to keep from falling down. He took lessons at age 30 I think. He is now 47, and is the most beautiful dancer any woman has ever dreamed of. Of course, he put every bit of effort he had into mastering it.

I walk much better than him, and I am extremely coordinated (uncoordinated sailors go missing at sea, it's kind of an evolutionary thing). I am not anywhere near the dancer he is, despite my coordination. I can passably salsa, rumba, even tango. I dance well enough to please myself and most girls. I took lessons to get to this level, and when I decided I had learned enough I moved my focus on to other things in my life.

I guess what I am saying is that no matter your age, or your coordination, you can get as good at dancing as you want. Just realize going in that the effort to be spectacular is going to be more than the effort to be passable. If you dream of becoming spectacular, you need only put in the time and effort. I hope you take the lessons, I would be thoroughly pleased to hear of your successes in competition Love.
 

ladylove

Member
Oh no steve, I won't be trying all of these. :)

I like tip#6 too. I had an older lady friend of mine tell me that if you are at a party and want to drink but maintain your cool, mix it with a little water . I like your idea better. Since I can't drink as much as I used to (it happens to ladies as we age) I would drink 1 or 2 and then have non alcholic drinks for the rest of the nite.
 

PirateSteve

Member
Love,

No, no! You are supposed to be drunk so we look better and have a chance to score! Don't you dare stop drinking, you will ruin all our chances...
 
Pirate...good stuff...especially about dancing....I just met a girl that is teaching me to dance salsa...I'm not sure what part of the world you guys are in but salsa clubs are a great place to meet women if you can dance... :)

I agree with what you are saying in theory...and it will work fine if you just want to get laid but I think that if a guy really wants to get to the next level in being able to attract the elite, in demand women (women who will probably not be in a bar bored and alone not in a real group a few minutes before closing time) there is really no way to do it to do it besides practicing tested, effective pickup or attraction techniques and getting really comfortable in social situations because lets face it sex and mating and all that fun stuff is a social thing...I mean anyone can meet average girls at bars/clubs even girls up to 8's but getting the 9's and above is a skill...

But great post pirate....and the ballet is just funny...AND EVIL!!!!!!! PURE GENIUS lol Share more I'm sure plenty of us here would love to hear your ideas....hahaha
 

PirateSteve

Member
Thanks Palo,
I spend most of my time in the Caribbean, Latin America and South Florida - Salsa is it down here! You are right in that the tips I posted so far are aimed at the beginner. The "elite" women are certainly the top rung of the ladder, but one must learn to walk before they can run, no? But OK, since you mentioned it - I skirted around this in my original post, but if you have an exciting life - then these women will find you, and you won't need any techniques. Guys without an exciting life might be able to simulate the attractive factors with established pick up methods, but guys with exciting lives just plain don't need them.

Today I regularly sail, surf, dive, canoe, water ski, backpack, motorcycle, bicycle, skateboard, and play harmonica. I live on a boat. I meditate for several hours each day. I have read and am well versed in classic literature, history, philosophy and world religions. In the past I fought as a SF soldier, worked as a Parole Officer, and did a stint as a prison Chaplin. I flew airplanes before I could drive a car, and have flown a lot of planes and helicopters over the years (the coolest was the Apache), but had to quit when the FAA yanked my ticket due to my injuries. I have skydived (HALO in the Army & sport jumps after), free-climbed, base-jumped, bungee-jumped, cliff-dived, and started hang-gliding a couple years ago. I look for new, fun things to do everywhere I go. I will try anything at least once. I hang out with the old and young, and will play shuffleboard with the elderly or jacks with kids in a schoolyard as quickly as dive a cave.

None of this was ever done with the intention to pick up girls, I do it for me. To both men and women, I have an exciting life and an exciting past. Because of my life, and my willingness to do fun things, I have found myself in some incredible circles. I am close friends with a number of celebrities, politicians, and some of the nations wealthiest most influential people. Men buy me drinks at bars to hear my stories, and so do women. Beautiful, and for most guys, untouchable women. And they go home with me. And I am financially poor, scruffy, unkempt, walk with a cane often, and only have one eye.

Each man has a choice to decide how he wants to live his life. I am just saying that if you do exciting, interesting things - surprise - women will find you exciting and interesting. All the pickup methods I have reviewed do is try and circumvent that and make you appear exciting and interesting, without you actually having to become exciting and interesting. The better ones actually coach you into becoming more interesting, and as a result they are (in my mind at least) more genuine. I am not saying they don't work, because obviously they do. And for some guys they may be the only workable path. I just think it is easier, and a lot more fun, to do the exciting and interesting things up front and skip the intensive character study and building.

How hard would it be to take, as I challenged Godsize already, skydiving classes this weekend? If you are in a cold climate, how hard is it to cross-country or downhill ski? Sell the car and get a motorcycle, hike and camp on weekends? Go to the museum and study art? At least you can start reading philosophy or religious texts instead of comic books, right? If you are a young man, how much harder is it to study for an exciting career than a boring one? If you start doing exciting, interesting things - you will become exciting and interesting. And you won't have to search for the right things to say, or worry about filling up empty spots in the conversation, or get a perfect line, or remember what it means if her eyes go up and to the left, or any of that much harder mental-game stuff. Just become interesting and exciting. Then if you just do tips #2 & 3, you will have as many or as few of the finest available women in the world as you want.
 
Pirate,

Good points and I am in agreement with you...the best way to attract women is to BE ATTRACTIVE and the things you mentioned are in fact all great points for beginners to consider.

I think that as you are pointing out people who are new to learning how to effectively meet women get too caught up in lines and all those types of things and need to focus on just going out and interacting with women--but there are many levels to anything in life. And when we are talking about pick-up methods we may be thinking about different things pirate but I am mostly focusing on the more advanced pickup related things like really understanding social dynamics and being able to work a room/bar/club/party. I found things like Mystery's archive at fastseduction.com helpful for that. He's a performer and has learned to effectively work rooms through trial and error and shares his ideas.

And I can see that you are on the right track Pirate--developing social circles is the easiest way to meet and connect with women because women feel safer and more open to relationships within their social circles...it takes more skill and work to open up cold sets and develop social circles on the fly...

Great Stuff Pirate... you rock hahaha




:rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:
 

PirateSteve

Member
You rock too Palo! I bet we could have a good time comparing notes while working a party together. You live in the states, anywhere near the east coast? I'm up and down it all the time...
 

Gardenier90

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Great post Pirate! Thanks for the shout out!
 
Pirate

I sent you a PM...check it out when you get a chance
 

PirateSteve

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girthius,

I am sad to report I won't be heading that way for a few years. It is, however, high on my list. When my daughter heads off to college (less than 2 years now!) My first cruise of "freedom" will be across the Atlantic toward merry old England (and Ireland, and Scotland). Lets see, that would be the summer of 2006. Figure I will do a year or so in Europe, a year or so in the Med, then push through the Suez toward the Orient.

Perhaps in a couple of years we could share a pint or two? I look forward to an entire new continent of "birds" to debauch...
 

Girthius

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Sounds good PirateSteve! Look forward to a few pints!As far as lasses, there are plenty indeed!Just waiting for an ole Pirate to drop his anchor into their harbor!!

Girthius

Pennzance, St Ives,and Lands End, just to name a few places, are ever so lovely! I live in the east of England, but plan to move that way, hopefully this year!!!
 

ladylove

Member
Originally posted by PirateSteve
girthius,

I am sad to report I won't be heading that way for a few years. It is, however, high on my list. When my daughter heads off to college (less than 2 years now!) My first cruise of "freedom" will be across the Atlantic toward merry old England (and Ireland, and Scotland). Lets see, that would be the summer of 2006. Figure I will do a year or so in Europe, a year or so in the Med, then push through the Suez toward the Orient.

Perhaps in a couple of years we could share a pint or two? I look forward to an entire new continent of "birds" to debauch...
can I go with you? *smile*
 
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