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"Penis Enlargement" and lots of things related to it gets 200,000 searches a month, which equals 2,400,000 searches a year (and increasing more because of those dumb spammers).

Now, around 40,000 people actually see natural Penis Enlargement and 20,000 or a little more of them actually get to a natural Penis Enlargement site.

What % do you guys think out of those 20,000 will actually pay for a NPenis Enlargement site?

Usually with the NPenis Enlargement sites, they are surrounded by pill sites. So that could mean that at most, 10,000-15,000 people actually get to the NPenis Enlargement site (wild estimate lol). An extremely good conversion ratio (out of this world but let's just say) for a website is around 10% (it might be lower) meaning that 1,000 actually sign up to the NPenis Enlargement sites.

Out of 1,000 NPenis Enlargement, 30% will fail or give up (probably or maybe =P). Does that mean 700 people find the "holy grail" of NPenis Enlargement a month? :)

�other forum� gets an avg of 20-30 members per day (usually 400 a month) and penis pride I don't know but the other forums have anywhere from 1000-2000 members.

Okay so let's just add forum #s with total people who find the holy grail, which means around 2000 people find NPenis Enlargement online, which equals 24,000 a year or a little more.

Also let's not forget askmen.com. They have 5 million+ readers and they push a NPenis Enlargement site pretty hard (FUCKERS@#!#)... umm anyway so how many people do you think find NPenis Enlargement a year? :)
 
Just read some of the post on AskMen.com. Felt nauseated by just reading about what Dr. Williams has to say.

Only his program works, everyone else is scam artists, guaranteed to work, fancy "doctor" pictures and not to mention all the original research they have done. Bet they have stolen it from other sites, such as this or any of the other Penis Enlargement forums.
 
Agreed. That fa***t doctor stole info, put up a manual them BAM!

Luckily, it's only a manual and there is no support probably. Anyway I have his address if anybody wants to bomb him :)
 
That doctor also claims that he used his own program to gain over 2" in length and 2" in girth, and That a famous actor gained 3.7x3.0". I havent heard of that many people gaining 2" girth and I have never heard of anyone gaining 3". Plus he said its only been around 1.5 years. I think its a load of BS.
 
Okay so far. I think that there are around 40,000 men who know about NPenis Enlargement via collection of memberships totals from forums (from free and paid sites) and it will be more accurate once I find out more specific #s of the memberships.
 
lol ! Why worry ?!?!?!?


WHO CARES ?


Subtract all the hardgainers and those who gain just a little , subtract all those who get demotivated very quickly, subtract those who are not willing to devote time and effort.

Hell, you can even substract those who join the game because they have very small penises to work with. Imagine a guy with a 4"er. Even if he does gain a whole inch after 1 year (wich as we all know is great and alot) he'd be only 5" meaning still "ONLY" more or less average ! Still much smaller than most of us "Enlightened ones" !


There is is one very basic truth about Penis Enlargement that will never ever change (unless science finds other ways) : Increasing the length and girth of your penis ONLY works by

-knowledge
-constant hard work
-investing alot of time !
-luck !!!!!! (Yes luck , some simply don't gain)


Now look at all the facts that work for us :

People are LAZY ! YES VERY VERY LAZY ! They have been lazy 100 years ago and they will be lazy in 100 years.
The majority is not willing to work hard, invest alot of time, EVEN IF YOU GIVE THEM THE KNOWLEDGE ! HELL NO ! WHat they want is QUICK, instant results , WONDERS , Miracles , over night solutions !!!


Wich brings us to : *drums*.......pills, patches, spammers !

You say u hate those f*ckers ?! I say : God bless them !
As long as they will be around, (I'm sure this will be forever)
they will be bullshitting people and de-motivating them by selling non-working hoax products.

See what I mean ? They work for us and not against...
I have no pity at all with stupid people who think they can grow their dicks 6 inches longer overnight by swallowing a pill. They get ripped off and thats perfectly fine with me !

Penis Enlargement the way WE do it , will never go mainstream. Not in our life time.....


Think about it , the only thing I fear is this scenario :

My worst nightmare is that sooner or later science and research combined will find a REALLY Penis EnlargementRFECT WAY to enlarge penises by either transplantation , or genetic manipulation !
Basically all u need to do is find the genes that are responsible for penis growth and re-activate them in the body. IT WILL BE POSSIBLE sooner or later , probably not in our life time....


actually , when I think about it : The last scenario isn't that bad....each and everyman would have the same sized penis.
NO MORE FEARS WHATSOEVER. It will all come down to personality and looks and sex-technique....everybody would be equal in terms of penis size.


oh well the future.....
 
Actually it was more of an interesting thing rather than fear of people find out. My only fear is mainstream magazines writing about it since these magazines had already established credibility with the readers :(
 
Originally posted by tbirdy
lol ! Why worry ?!?!?!?


WHO CARES ?


Subtract all the hardgainers and those who gain just a little , subtract all those who get demotivated very quickly, subtract those who are not willing to devote time and effort.

Hell, you can even substract those who join the game because they have very small penises to work with. Imagine a guy with a 4"er. Even if he does gain a whole inch after 1 year (wich as we all know is great and alot) he'd be only 5" meaning still "ONLY" more or less average ! Still much smaller than most of us "Enlightened ones" !


There is is one very basic truth about Penis Enlargement that will never ever change (unless science finds other ways) : Increasing the length and girth of your penis ONLY works by

-knowledge
-constant hard work
-investing alot of time !
-luck !!!!!! (Yes luck , some simply don't gain)


Now look at all the facts that work for us :

People are LAZY ! YES VERY VERY LAZY ! They have been lazy 100 years ago and they will be lazy in 100 years.
The majority is not willing to work hard, invest alot of time, EVEN IF YOU GIVE THEM THE KNOWLEDGE ! HELL NO ! WHat they want is QUICK, instant results , WONDERS , Miracles , over night solutions !!!


Wich brings us to : *drums*.......pills, patches, spammers !

You say u hate those f*ckers ?! I say : God bless them !
As long as they will be around, (I'm sure this will be forever)
they will be bullshitting people and de-motivating them by selling non-working hoax products.

See what I mean ? They work for us and not against...
I have no pity at all with stupid people who think they can grow their dicks 6 inches longer overnight by swallowing a pill. They get ripped off and thats perfectly fine with me !

Penis Enlargement the way WE do it , will never go mainstream. Not in our life time.....


Think about it , the only thing I fear is this scenario :

My worst nightmare is that sooner or later science and research combined will find a REALLY Penis EnlargementRFECT WAY to enlarge penises by either transplantation , or genetic manipulation !
Basically all u need to do is find the genes that are responsible for penis growth and re-activate them in the body. IT WILL BE POSSIBLE sooner or later , probably not in our life time....


actually , when I think about it : The last scenario isn't that bad....each and everyman would have the same sized penis.
NO MORE FEARS WHATSOEVER. It will all come down to personality and looks and sex-technique....everybody would be equal in terms of penis size.


oh well the future.....

Actually, your partly correct. The whole penis pill phenomenon started a buzz about penis enlargement in the first place. There weren't that many men searching for a way to enlarge their penises because they didn't think it was possible.

But admist the buzz, NPenis Enlargement will stay underground as long as offline magazines do not endorse it and pill, patches, etc. flood the online traffic streams.
 
This story goes even a little bit deeper on the business side of trying to advertise a reputable natural penis enlargement site. Due to the pill companies it is next to impossible for us to advertise our site. This is because the phrase Penis EnlargementNIS ENLARGEMENT is the most expensive search phase of all time in any search engine clocking in a between $6.00 to $8.00 per click...Yes per click. Since we can't afford this we depend solely on work of mouth to keep MoS and it's forum operational.
 
That's because the pill companies do not make money on the first sale (most likely). They probably get reorders or multiple ones because they always state that it takes 3+ months to see results.
 
Originally posted by lonerj
That's because the pill companies do not make money on the first sale (most likely). They probably get reorders or multiple ones because they always state that it takes 3+ months to see results.

The ones that make money have automatic reordering through credit card or check draft. This is how many companies ( some reputable) in many industries operate. For example, Proactiv, Girls Gone Wild tapes, various supplements,etc
 
DLD,
Does MOS have an affiliate program? If not, why not? If you did, it would be a lot easier to advertise and get signups. You wouldnt have to pay $6-$8 per click, as the advertising expense would fall on affiliates trying to get commissions with banner ads, Pay Per Click engines,etc. There are many people out there who have businesses who do nothing but affiliate programs and know how to manipulate search engines,etc.

Also, do you have any tracking in place. For example, do you know how to rack where singups come from and statistics such as signup ratio?

If I were you and you were concerned about increasing business I would explore an affiliate option. That is actually how a lot of the other sites ( Big Al, for example) make a lot of sales.
 
uumm, i was under the impression this sight gets several hundred thousand hits a day. those figures may be off
 
Originally posted by bigbutnottoo
DLD,
Does MOS have an affiliate program? If not, why not? If you did, it would be a lot easier to advertise and get signups. You wouldnt have to pay $6-$8 per click, as the advertising expense would fall on affiliates trying to get commissions with banner ads, Pay Per Click engines,etc. There are many people out there who have businesses who do nothing but affiliate programs and know how to manipulate search engines,etc.

Also, do you have any tracking in place. For example, do you know how to rack where singups come from and statistics such as signup ratio?

If I were you and you were concerned about increasing business I would explore an affiliate option. That is actually how a lot of the other sites ( Big Al, for example) make a lot of sales.

Getting affilates for one time sign ups is very difficult. I would love to do something like this though...it would really help us.
 
Originally posted by Swank
uumm, i was under the impression this sight gets several hundred thousand hits a day. those figures may be off

Hits is different from unique traffic. A person coming to this website and seeing 4-10 images could mean 4-10 hits.

There are around 5,000+ members here. Some of us visit more than once a day. That could mean anywhere from 30,000-50,000 hits a day. This site eats alot of freakin' memory.
 
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