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Hello! So i have 2 questions regarding keegels i would like to solve.

Firstly.. I use to do Keegel work after my session in my bed, always after edging. Sometimes i ejaculate and sometimes i dont. Does this somehow make any negative effects on my keegel work?

And secondly.. I remember a long time ago if i did a keegel i could hold my hand close to my anus (don't know the specific area) and i could locate something pushing out from my body everytime i did a keegel.
It was like a motion my body did and i could feel this "area" being pushed out while i keegel.

This specific area is not that intense anymore, the pushout is not as strong and i don't feel it as good anymore. The pushout feels weak. I hope you get what i mean, what does this mean?
I remember it was really easy to locate this "pushout" movement and it felt strong. Now it feels weaker and it's harder to localize it due to this.

Thanks!
 
Ejaculation will have no effect on Kegel work since Kegels can be done flaccid or erect. After training Kegel's for a while you will have a greater ability to isolate the Pelvic Floor Muscles where the squeeze will not go back so far.
 
I remember that spot too its the bulbous spongiousumsm or something like that. Also used to push out harder before but I dont know, the only explanation is that it doesn't inflate as rigidly because the tissue has stretched and requires more kegel power.
 
MaxRichards;696151 said:
IS it possible to tear and detach parts of the PC muscles or ligaments, causing remote effects not to be present in places where you could feel before?

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Definitely possible but highly unlikely and in the instance it happened you would be in unreal pain.
 
I imagine to answer your 2nd question is that it's just a muscle. I know for a fact that mostly everyone can feel it but to some you can't and some slightly, it all depends how much fat resides in that area.
 
Thanks.

I just thought that it was a bad sign that the area don't push out as much anymore. Like they are weak or something.

And where do you stand about if you should have a balanced pelvic floor to get best EQ, or is that all just nonsense DLD?
Which tells you that you should do reverse keegels if your pelvic muscles is too tense.
 
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habban;696199 said:
Thanks.

I just thought that it was a bad sign that the area don't push out as much anymore. Like they are weak or something.

And where do you stand about if you should have a balanced pelvic floor to get best EQ, or is that all just nonsense DLD?
Which tells you that you should do reverse keegels if your pelvic muscles is too tense.

Not feeling it anymore could be that you now have more fat covering it or it can potentially be that you've exhausted the muscle too much for it to protrude like before.
 
I recognized a cool thing today and i would like to hear an explanation on this :)

So i have always thought about.. Where did my very high erection angle go? Today, when i was as erect as i thought i possibly currently can be, i flexed my PC muscle outward, like a reverse keegel, like when you push out pee harder. And to my surprise my penis started to slowly increase in erection angle, it was like it was slowly growing, it was literally rising in front of my eyes reaching a higher erection angle.
It also seem like i got more pressure from the inside, and the penis skin on the surface got bigger, it was like it made it even more clear to me about what is the current fluid retention on my dick. The veins got more prominent and thicker meanwhile the skin surface got more loose and thicker. It was like my penis basically grew further.

Could this possibly mean that my pelvic floor muscles is currently unbalanced, that they are too tense and i need to work on relaxing my pelvic floor to be able to let proper blood flow inside my penis?

I also wonder, how many days do you have to wait until all fluid retention goes away? I'm thinking about doing a stretching routine only while i wait for the fluid retention to go away, and see how everything feels and looks like in that state.

Thanks.
 
Rk relax the chambers so more blood can flow in and then a kegel will clamp them off to keep it there. I practice alternating these two when doing my exercises to get the most engorgement
 
templnite;696261 said:
Rk relax the chambers so more blood can flow in and then a kegel will clamp them off to keep it there. I practice alternating these two when doing my exercises to get the most engorgement

Hell yeah, seems more effective if you ask me. Why didn't i know this before x)
 
habban;696199 said:
Thanks.

I just thought that it was a bad sign that the area don't push out as much anymore. Like they are weak or something.

And where do you stand about if you should have a balanced pelvic floor to get best EQ, or is that all just nonsense DLD?
Which tells you that you should do reverse keegels if your pelvic muscles is too tense.

None of it is nonsense but it is very hard to prove a balance of these muscles as they are within the body. We need to rely of things like erection quality and erection angle to see where we are in strength of these muscles. In the isolation of these muscles eventually you will find that balance as it will be obvious, the anus will not be so active in the movement. A reverse kegel does nothing but put the muscles into submission allowing for a better stretch (See DLD Blasters to understand this).
 
doublelongdaddy;696266 said:
None of it is nonsense but it is very hard to prove a balance of these muscles as they are within the body. We need to rely of things like erection quality and erection angle to see where we are in strength of these muscles. In the isolation of these muscles eventually you will find that balance as it will be obvious, the anus will not be so active in the movement. A reverse kegel does nothing but put the muscles into submission allowing for a better stretch (See DLD Blasters to understand this).


And what do you mean by a better stretch exactly? I take it as your penile length exercise (Like a regular direction stretch) will be able to get longer measurably temporarily. But this is maybe not what you mean?
If this is all you mean reverse kegels does, i have to disagree with you.
 
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MaxRichards;696320 said:
Better stretch = PC muscles not working against the stretch.

Actually in JP90 routine he said to do a regular kegel while you stretch. I wonder why he advocated the regular before the reverse kegel.
I have a theory. Perhaps.. If you do a regular kegel and at the moment you are releasing the kegel your pelvic floor will automatically relax for a short burst,
without you having to do it intentionally. Kegels is more sure to be known by beginners and is easier to locate. Also it makes kegel fit in the routine for lazy trainers.
It was like 25 seconds of directional stretching, and 25 quick kegels each direction while you hold the stretch. Also it cold be that it would tire out the pelvic floor
area faster if you stretch while doing a kegel, which will make it easier to get a better stretch.

Any other theories why he advocated this before the regular kegel? JonPop is a well-known name in the business, with his 3.75 inches length increase.
 
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habban;696345 said:
Actually in JP90 routine he said to do a regular kegel while you stretch. I wonder why he advocated the regular before the reverse kegel.
I have a theory. Perhaps.. If you do a regular kegel and at the moment you are releasing the kegel your pelvic floor will automatically relax for a short burst,
without you having to do it intentionally. Kegels is more sure to be known by beginners and is easier to locate. Also it makes kegel fit in the routine for lazy trainers.
It was like 25 seconds of directional stretching, and 25 quick kegels each direction while you hold the stretch. Also it cold be that it would tire out the pelvic floor
area faster if you stretch while doing a kegel, which will make it easier to get a better stretch.

Any other theories why he advocated this before the regular kegel? JonPop is a well-known name in the business, with his 3.75 inches length increase.

He advocated it because it kills 2 birds in 1 stone. The two may not necessarily be synergistic but we do know now that reverse kegels will definitely help.
 
kyomoto;696362 said:
He advocated it because it kills 2 birds in 1 stone. The two may not necessarily be synergistic but we do know now that reverse kegels will definitely help.

I meant reverse kegel in the end of my quote there.

But yes, could be true. Heard that theory before i believe :D
 
habban;696372 said:
I meant reverse kegel in the end of my quote there.

But yes, could be true. Heard that theory before i believe :D

Yeah but combining both will always be helpful
 
MaxRichards;696320 said:
Better stretch = PC muscles not working against the stretch.

Exactly. This requires a state of fatigue, refraction, reverse kegel or pre-exhausting the PFM with an overload of Kegels as in DLD Blasters. When the pelvic floor muscles have become exhausted they will not be able to resist the intensity of the stretching you are doing.
 
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