Odd question for experts

I'm not masturbating for now, is there a way to gain girth without doing erect exercises? Just wondering

Probably not. You can gain some girth from length exercises but it's insignificant and unlikely to happen. You also can gain some base girth from downward stretching. I think if you want girth just improve your EQ with kegels and get back to masturbation.

You don't need to masturbate to do girth work. You just need discipline to keep from going over the "edge".

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with SSJ and a Bathmate i could see gaining girth as a possibility but both of those would require the Corpus cavernosum to be filled with blood which happens during an erection

yep,there is technically no way you can gain girth without erect work since basically all girth work is gradually working more blood into your penis gradually. if I may say,masturbation got nothing to do with girth work,most of us on here don't masturbate before/during/after girth work,so if you do so,try to eliminate that habit gradually and you'll be okay

I do girth work, several times a day, and NEVER masturbate!! Of course, I'm married..... otherwise, I probably would, every now and then. But, I can't remember the last time I did it. One thing you can try, if you have trouble controlling yourself....... is go get you a bottle of KY Duration spray. It's lidocaine...... it works wonders! A few sprays, and you won't feel a damn thing!! If you use enough, it will go completely numb!! It's what dentists use to numb with. Try it, it will do wonders! Trust me, don't waste your time, and money, on all those other delay sprays and creams!! Most have benzocaine in them, and you can't even tell you've put it on!

stillwantmore2;731521 said:

You don't need to masturbate to do girth work. You just need discipline to keep from going over the "edge".

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Exactly.

Adamtf1982;731584 said:

One thing you can try, if you have trouble controlling yourself....... is go get you a bottle of KY Duration spray. It's lidocaine...... it works wonders! A few sprays, and you won't feel a damn thing!! If you use enough, it will go completely numb!! It's what dentists use to numb with. Try it, it will do wonders! Trust me, don't waste your time, and money, on all those other delay sprays and creams!! Most have benzocaine in them, and you can't even tell you've put it on!

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I have good control but the fact is I'm really sensitive so I have to stop and start frequently. After a while it subsides luckily. But I have tried numbing condoms and lubes before but I never really got into them.

I think the ultimate cure to sensitivity/prejac besides kegels would be Priligy (Dapoxetine). I've never tried it but it sounds like a freaking wonder drug. From what I've read it's really expensive and not easy to get. Anyone have any experience with it?

JB007;731722 said:

I have good control but the fact is I'm really sensitive so I have to stop and start frequently. After a while it subsides luckily. But I have tried numbing condoms and lubes before but I never really got into them.

I think the ultimate cure to sensitivity/prejac besides kegels would be Priligy (Dapoxetine). I've never tried it but it sounds like a freaking wonder drug. From what I've read it's really expensive and not easy to get. Anyone have any experience with it?

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Before starting a medication with a side effects i would recommend training yourself many guys have the issue with being too quick especially if they masturbated quickly (1-10 min sessions) a lot when they were younger, that trains the body to negatively go quick for satisfaction, and the only natural way to combat that is to strengthen the pelvic floor muscles and train your self the other way such as learning your point of no return and being able to stop for a min too cool down. After a while doing this and even with the sensitivity you should be able to last 20+ minutes personally i used to struggle to last to 10 mins with my wife since starting pe and training myself the other way I have had times where i lasted an hour.

JB007;731722 said:

I have good control but the fact is I'm really sensitive so I have to stop and start frequently. After a while it subsides luckily. But I have tried numbing condoms and lubes before but I never really got into them.

I think the ultimate cure to sensitivity/prejac besides kegels would be Priligy (Dapoxetine). I've never tried it but it sounds like a freaking wonder drug. From what I've read it's really expensive and not easy to get. Anyone have any experience with it?

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Well, unless you've confirmed otherwise, I'd say, those you've used, don't have lidocaine....it's a different animal all together! Now, I agree with everybody else.......you don't have a physical issue..... you've got a control issue. I know, I've been fighting the same myself! It's not a matter of being able to hold it, when you get to the edge......real control, keeps you from getting to the edge, till you're ready to "jump"! Lol. That's achieved by a few things......breathing, relaxing, reverse kegels......... I'm not saying I have it mastered, but I've improved enough to see what is possible, and how much control I'll have, when I perfect it. As far as priligy..... no experience...... but, it's not high, or hard to get....... any of the generic companies out there, like All Day Chemist, carry it in several strengths. I had even considered it myself, but, felt like it, for me anyway, that it was a lazy man's, and psychologically weak man's solution, and felt like I was admiting defeat. Please...... anybody out there that takes it, no offense please! I only meant for me personally! I do however, feel like, just about every man out there, either has, or has had, an issue with this, and with enough discipline, can overcome this!! Good luck bro!!!

JB007;731722 said:

I have good control but the fact is I'm really sensitive so I have to stop and start frequently. After a while it subsides luckily. But I have tried numbing condoms and lubes before but I never really got into them.

I think the ultimate cure to sensitivity/prejac besides kegels would be Priligy (Dapoxetine). I've never tried it but it sounds like a freaking wonder drug. From what I've read it's really expensive and not easy to get. Anyone have any experience with it?

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Like I said though.....if you haven't tried KY Duration, in particular.... not something similar...... don't count it out! If you follow the directions, use 3-10 sprays, and I promise you, if you use 10, you will feel practically nothing!! I don't use that many, because I'm too desensitized! I'm usually very sensitive...... especially in the frenulum area. One of my bad habits, was that I was able, if I was in a hurry, to just quickly stroke it, and not touch the rest, and could cum like that, quick! So........it blew my mind, the first time I tried it! Now, this is what I'm finding. If you start out using more, when you get to that point, it's easier to relax, and make it go away, because it's not so sensitive...... well, once you get that down, of how to avoid the inevitable, then you can use a little less, then a little less...... I'm telling you..... try it! I'll tell you what's the best thing.......i know, cause I've done it........ before sex, spray it on, leave it for 10-15 min, then get a washcloth, and wash him off........you will still get the same effects, but, a blow job isn't a problem at all!! My wife loves to goes down on me, and loves to for a long time....but, that's where I have the most trouble......well, not with this stuff!! Granted, I've got much better, and will keep getting better, but, it does work, and unbelievably well!!

Bundled type stretches can require little to no erectile activity. Are you refraining from masturbation to completion or any form of self-stimulation- including what may be required to obtain a degree of erection for training?

I can last pretty much as long as I want. I still feel the urge to cum but I can hold it without letting loose. The only issue is I have to stop a lot for the first 10 minutes or so of sex but after that it gradually subsides.

As far as the delay sprays, I don't like using them because I don't want to be numb. I want to be in that sweet spot of feeling awesome pleasure but not enough to make me release. So I'm always in awe of ���� stars who can go super hard for extended periods of time. But guess what, pretty sure at least some of them take Priligy in combination with Cialis or Caverject. They're human after all. Lol.

And to add, masturbation to orgasm is far different than edging or ballooning where there is no orgasm.

JB007;731823 said:

I can last pretty much as long as I want. I still feel the urge to cum but I can hold it without letting loose. The only issue is I have to stop a lot for the first 10 minutes or so of sex but after that it gradually subsides.

As far as the delay sprays, I don't like using them because I don't want to be numb. I want to be in that sweet spot of feeling awesome pleasure but not enough to make me release. So I'm always in awe of ���� stars who can go super hard for extended periods of time. But guess what, pretty sure at least some of them take Priligy in combination with Cialis or Caverject. They're human after all. Lol.

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Yes, but are we not talking about your routine?? Did you not ask, about girth work, and having trouble, not going too far?? I mean, don't use it, when you have sex...... I'm talking about using it, with your routine, to keep you from going too far! That's all I was suggesting.

Adamtf1982;731891 said:

Yes, but are we not talking about your routine?? Did you not ask, about girth work, and having trouble, not going too far?? I mean, don't use it, when you have sex...... I'm talking about using it, with your routine, to keep you from going too far! That's all I was suggesting.

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What's with the crazy question marks? I didn't start the thread. Just chimed in. I'm fine during my routine. Using ky duration for that seems like overkill. I might try it for sex next time though.

JB007;731907 said:

What's with the crazy question marks?

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Could not resist

doublelongdaddy;731952 said:

Could not resist

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lol i dont think there could be a better reply.

I guess I'm just confused. The question was regarding gaining girth, without being erect..... and, from other comments, about getting close, and having to stop, led me to believe, the reason for the question, was to avoid that. That's why I suggested what I did. Maybe it is a bit much for PE, but imho, taking some kind of drug for PE is too! Like I said though.... I'm just confused, and probably got lost along the way.