NoFap and endurance? Possible side effects of NO Sex and/or masturbation.

Hi,

I haven't been posting for quite awhile and am in the phase in life when i realized i was addicted to masturbation. That had, until now, a huge negative effect and consequences on my general success in life. I started avoiding masturbation and that in itself has good and bad sides. NO FAP is a movement that helps people get back on track with their life, and it really works and helps me to have focus on other things that matter. There were periods of time when i masturbated / had sex twice a week, to be precise, on two days of any given week, with several ejaculations per day. I used that as an opportunity to do PE, edging and kegels, and that was great for my "staying power" or endurance in bed. I occasionally have sex with my wife, but not very often, perhaps twice a month. There is a common thought i bump on, browsing the web, "Use it, or lose it!" I would ideally want to have sex with my wife perhaps masturbate, or edge first, doing some PE (SSJ or mostly girth related anything) afterwards or prior to that, but all this in a 24h window. Then nothing for the next 10 days, to focus on business.

What do you guys think, how bad this would / will be for my overall sexual performance. I do exercise every day, pushups and pull ups, eat healthy and am in constant movement.

profesionalac, thanks for bringing this up. We actually have a ����/masturbation addition forum here. I started it to help Brothers and myself to get off the ���� train to hell. I was pretty addicted and it took me a long time to get to where I am today. I masturbated 2 times in this last 30 day period. I can usually go 30 days, my record is 45 days. The thing to understand is you will fail. This is not to discourage it is just being real. Also, do not ,make any rules around this like; I am not allowed to masturbate, or I am not allowed to look at ����. Rules are made for one thing and one thing only, t be broken. Instead trust in yourself and look at the positives in this wise quest. When I had the rules over my head I failed repeatedly but once I took away he rules I took away the temptation. If you are a Jesus follower, ask for guidance and strength. Good luck my friend and I will pray for you!

DLD


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Thanks DLD! Quite an honour to have your comment as the first. I had some level of success with this, during the last several months. But i wasn't as committed as i intend to be now. I realised this myself, and this is more of a guideline, day more / less, i do not intend to be as strict because i know i would fail, eventually, and then feel bad like i have failed in it, or something like that.

But my intention is to replace constant focus on sex and objects of desire, women (offline and online ) and to deliberatelly direct my focus as much as i can towards being successful in business untill i get my life back in order.

I know that it helps very much if i have meaningfull activities that lead to some improvement in whatever area i care about, during this abstinence period.

I realised that in my case works best if i have guidelines when im trying to change a habit, to begin with, until i create a habit.

profesionalac;754653 said:

Hi,

I haven't been posting for quite awhile and am in the phase in life when i realized i was addicted to masturbation. That had, until now, a huge negative effect and consequences on my general success in life. I started avoiding masturbation and that in itself has good and bad sides. NO FAP is a movement that helps people get back on track with their life, and it really works and helps me to have focus on other things that matter. There were periods of time when i masturbated / had sex twice a week, to be precise, on two days of any given week, with several ejaculations per day. I used that as an opportunity to do PE, edging and kegels, and that was great for my "staying power" or endurance in bed. I occasionally have sex with my wife, but not very often, perhaps twice a month. There is a common thought i bump on, browsing the web, "Use it, or lose it!" I would ideally want to have sex with my wife perhaps masturbate, or edge first, doing some PE (SSJ or mostly girth related anything) afterwards or prior to that, but all this in a 24h window. Then nothing for the next 10 days, to focus on business.

What do you guys think, how bad this would / will be for my overall sexual performance. I do exercise every day, pushups and pull ups, eat healthy and am in constant movement.

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When you said masturbation affects your general success in life what does it mean? Are you saying it's also affecting the financial aspect of your life?

huge-girth;754701 said:

When you said masturbation affects your general success in life what does it mean? Are you saying it's also affecting the financial aspect of your life?

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Things are connected, nothing is separate. I do not have a job, i work as a freelancer, and if i masturbate often feel not as motivated to find work, tend to work less and am prone to wasting time on unproductive activities, hence less money overall + i am also not motivated as much to learn something new, improve, ...

huge-girth;754701 said:

When you said masturbation affects your general success in life what does it mean? Are you saying it's also affecting the financial aspect of your life?

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It can effect every part of your life and that depends on how deeply addicted you are. The progression from innocence to death is illustrated in this sense, You become addicted to ����, you need harder and harder ���� so you begin to pay for it (finances) , eventually you become desensitized to the ���� and seek something more, prostitute (financial) (risky), you go further into debt and eventually contract AIDS (death) and die. This is extreme but it can also destroy other things. If you have a wife and are addicted to ����, you are not serving your wife in the best way. In some ways you are cheating on her with ����. In this scenario you have a great relationship, you begin to watch ���� and masturbate, eventually you desire ���� more than your wife. You start to want your wife to drop the things you are watching in ����, she begins to notice these changes and starts snooping around and finds your stash, from here the breakdown begins and eventually the relationship will come an ending. I am single and celibate but I also faced the same thorny road. ���� began to separate me from the things I love most, God and my Family. It was also infecting the Brotherhood. I had to make a personal and financial decision, and it was a big one eliminate ���� from my life and the Brotherhood. I knew I would lose a lot of traffic and money, but I had to do the right thing. I was basically sending men into devils den when I allowed ����! I am responsible to my Brothers and I knew the Brothers who would leave us were never Brothers to begin with. So yes, in every facet of life ����/masturbation will eventually infect in one way or the other.

This is such an in depth assessment of this problem and to some extent a description of some of my problems as well. I assume we have to empty ourselves every once in a while but it is my decision to use that energy and that time on doing PE and thinking about REAL women, REAL possibilities for ACTUAL SEX that i assume will have with women i imagine during masturbation. So the point is steer clear of ���� hub and if you must masturbate, imagine something potentially realistic for you.

profesionalac;754757 said:

This is such an in depth assessment of this problem and to some extent a description of some of my problems as well. I assume we have to empty ourselves every once in a while but it is my decision to use that energy and that time on doing PE and thinking about REAL women, REAL possibilities for ACTUAL SEX that i assume will have with women i imagine during masturbation. So the point is steer clear of ���� hub and if you must masturbate, imagine something potentially realistic for you.

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When it happens for me, I do not mess around. I do not want to spend hours looking at ���� so I go right to the shit that gets me off immediately, wipe the dick, zip the zipper and keep on movin'

The current trend seems to be to go for NoFap. Men question themselves and think they do not achieve enough and suffer from low energy states. In turn they want to find ways to enhance their performance and purify themselves by getting rid of negative things. Men want to know what it takes to be a man. A lot of singles out there in times of feminism, civilization and high tech culture.

I too experimented with NoFap, NoPorn, NoOrgasm and things like that.

Many people don't practise PE, they have no way to be constructive in terms of sex unless you make babies (but we know that the birth rates of the Western world are very low). Some say that ���� is there to keep us from questioning authorities and it is supposed to dump us down.

The more experienced I am the smarter I get. None of the insights led me to the decision to stop ���� though. Being able to view pictures of naked women is an extremely powerful possibility. Question is whether it is good or bad.

The theory that ���� and masturbation makes you lazy is not true for me. Happens quite often that I feel like going for a workout right after finishing my session.

Many people report that they feel guilty after a session because they couldn't pleasure a real women. You see reality is a term which is not well understood. What many call real life is not much different from a picture on the screen. These are all objects appearing in the minds of the observers of the universe. However if we identify with the body and the mind we feel that we are responsible for the urges that are caused by hormones moving through the body. Guilt is introduced into our lives. I don't feel this guilt anymore. Once I had a powerful spiritual experience which showed me that ����������� is just another form of love. I no longer have the tendency to demonize it.

I also experimented whether masturbation has a bad influence on my mental capabilities. I am working in the Space Engineering sector and can say that I have to rely on a well functioning mental state. My observations show me that my use of ���� or masturbation has no effect on these tasks. I can also read a digital book at home while massaging my penis and I am actually feeling more alert.

Problem with 'real women' is that they can't satisfy the urges of a man because their sexual behaviour is much different from the male side (things that are well explained in the so called MGTOW movement). By the way I don't want to be attracted to a female just because of sexual desire. This doesn't seem to be an effective selection procedure.

The longer I use ���� the smarter I get. I believe that my ability to enjoy the images has increased and is increasing further. Certain techniques came to light which contain specific usage intervals that enable much more pleasure.

I like to see girls like Leanne Crow, Samantha Lily, Yulia Nova and so on. All very large chested women and I believe their image is reflected into myself and actually motivates me to do PE. That is through my admiration of size on the female body I want to integrate this part on my body too, resulting in PE.

No idea how to achieve high endurance without ����. Fleshlight is very strong I have to say, so it might work with that. I just feel that if you do NoFap you won't have much endurance and this could affect sex live. But I am really no expert in this field.

One thing I am working on is the role of orgasm. It doesn't really benefit my experience and I have phases were I don't orgasm at the end of a session for about a week. It works well for a time but then the body also changes and the urge to get rid of the stress increases. Note however that after a session without orgasm I don't feel any stress and I am able to do all kinds of other things. I also have days when I don't masturbate or watch for 24hours even though I haven't emptied since 6 days.

I will continue my journey and I will stay open and keep questioning ���� so that in case I get an insight that really speaks against ���� I might stop using it. I actually wonder if any man is able to stay away from it. I mean many people talk about this topic online but often the people who shout the loudest are actually still doing/suffering it.

Just blow your nut. Much less stressful.

stillwantmore2;755064 said:

Just blow your nut. Much less stressful.

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I think people who are trying to go without masturbation need to first measure their stress and frustrations, when does this happen? at 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a month? For me it happens at around 30 days where I will end up becoming frustrated to the point I need to get one out. For me it is all about being at peace and resting in a happy life, when fustrations arise, I know where they are coming from, so at this point, as I stated, I get one out as quick as possible and move on.

The issue I personally have with masturbation and ���� is if I start out with a soft core site I will be online for hours working my way up the tolerance pole! I can easily waste hours in doing this. So for me, I turn on the worst of the worst and shoot it off in a minute. This gets my head back in the right place, at peace and resting happily. I wish I could go longer than 30 days and maybe someday I will, but until that time I am doing the best I can and that is enough.

And remember men, do not punish yourself due to falling, it is going to happen, pick yourselves up, brush it off and start again. Guilt is nothing but the enemy trying to keep you in bondage. Tell it to fuck off and give another go.

I have read an article recently. That article was referring to the importance of ejaculating, not only masturbating. They brought up a study from a particular university, which stated that a man should ejaculate at least 325 times per year! Almost once per day, that is insane. That tells us that nofap or endurance is pointless and harmful for our health. I never liked the idea of nofap. I am the kind of person that likes to have sex daily. That is why I am a loyal customer of aurumgirls.co.uk, which is a fantastic escorts agency :D.

I have a new way for all men to enjoy what they experience by watching ���� but this is a new thing I just came up with and the clues I will give you are you do not need to look at ����������� but you will be visually excited. And the jerking off is not part of this is actually a PE exercise I created. Now with this new exercise and a new approach to what were you doing you’re going to be very impressed with what I’ve come up with. It’s gonna take me a little while maybe A week to finish but when I’m done it’s going to change things big-time for every man that suffers with us. You will still be able to enjoy every part of it but with a DLD surprise. It’s a spoiler alert but this is a good one.

For me the answer rest's in-between DLD's response & Chaoskampf's response. It all depends how well you know yourself; your beliefs, limits, when you perform optimally and when you don't. Regaining sensitivity in your penis doesn't make you less of a man

profesionalac said:

Hi,

I haven't been posting for quite awhile and am in the phase in life when i realized i was addicted to masturbation. That had, until now, a huge negative effect and consequences on my general success in life. I started avoiding masturbation and that in itself has good and bad sides. NO FAP is a movement that helps people get back on track with their life, and it really works and helps me to have focus on other things that matter. There were periods of time when i masturbated / had sex twice a week, to be precise, on two days of any given week, with several ejaculations per day. I used that as an opportunity to do PE, edging and kegels, and that was great for my "staying power" or endurance in bed. I occasionally have sex with my wife, but not very often, perhaps twice a month. There is a common thought i bump on, browsing the web, "Use it, or lose it!" I would ideally want to have sex with my wife perhaps masturbate, or edge first, doing some PE (SSJ or mostly girth related anything) afterwards or prior to that, but all this in a 24h window. Then nothing for the next 10 days, to focus on business.

What do you guys think, how bad this would / will be for my overall sexual performance. I do exercise every day, pushups and pull ups, eat healthy and am in constant movement.

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You should check out sexual kung fu on youtube he's all about semen retention . That is what got me into PE depending on a mans age he should only ejaculate so much. Semen is are vitality and when we jerk off to BS ���� were losing it for no reason besides a few moments of pleasure. I look at this from a spiritual perspective and sex is a sacred thing save it for your girl twice a month is probably a good amount depending on your age (SEX) SACRED ENERGY EXCHANGE! Get off the ���� and take a dopamine detox it will change your life and productivity for the better!

bigups+ said:

You should check out sexual kung fu on youtube he's all about semen retention . That is what got me into PE depending on a mans age he should only ejaculate so much. Semen is are vitality and when we jerk off to BS ���� were losing it for no reason besides a few moments of pleasure. I look at this from a spiritual perspective and sex is a sacred thing save it for your girl twice a month is probably a good amount depending on your age (SEX) SACRED ENERGY EXCHANGE! Get off the ���� and take a dopamine detox it will change your life and productivity for the better!

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Twice a month.. what abomination of shit is he filling you with. Me if I can twice a day I will!

MikeyM said:

Twice a month.. what abomination of shit is he filling you with. Me if I can twice a day I will!

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that’s up to you man your losing your life force every time you do though you shouldn’t dismiss stuff that your not informed about...

MikeyM said:

Twice a month.. what abomination of shit is he filling you with. Me if I can twice a day I will!

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I hope you don’t do that man it’s not good to ejaculate that much! There’s a reason pornhub is free. There’s deeper truths and wisdom behind retention I hope you check it out! The benefits spiritually mentally and physically outweigh the temporary pleasure of masturbation...

bigups+ said:

I hope you don’t do that man it’s not good to ejaculate that much! There’s a reason pornhub is free. There’s deeper truths and wisdom behind retention I hope you check it out! The benefits spiritually mentally and physically outweigh the temporary pleasure of masturbation...

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No no fucking if I have a choice I'll fuck 2 times a day. And even if it was jacking off fuck that man if I want to jack my dick I will literally the one thing I can look forward to as a means not to kill myself

I agree with semen retention reasoning. I am more focused and driven to do stuff when I do not ejaculate more than 1-2 times a week. I was masturbating very often for years and that is the main reason I haven't done much throughout that period.

Sex is fun but there are also other things which make life fun. It cannot be just that in life !