Newbie with questions

Well honestly, watching p**n over many years hasnt helped my self esteem. I know we shouldn't be comparing to those guys, but it's hard to feel like you're above average compared to most videos. That is why I've tried to stay away from it in resent years. It doesn't offer anything good.

DD85 said:

Well honestly, watching p**n over many years hasnt helped my self esteem. I know we shouldn't be comparing to those guys, but it's hard to feel like you're above average compared to most videos. That is why I've tried to stay away from it in resent years. It doesn't offer anything good.

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Entertainment videos, or even amateur voyerism, are from the selected fews who are confident about their sizes. However, the outlook always should focus on what your aims are and the intended size you want to use for. As many PE gainers here would say, 6.5x5 is considered as top of the game for most. If your partners along the way before marriage want more, use that as a reference that the ones in your region want something more satisfaction. Don't compare to other males, but listen to the companions' needs. Once you have that permanent partner, she will want more soon enough. That 6.5x5 won't cut it. Even 7x5.5 won't cut it. 8x6 may be the new golden beginning.

DD85 said:

Well honestly, watching p**n over many years hasnt helped my self esteem. I know we shouldn't be comparing to those guys, but it's hard to feel like you're above average compared to most videos. That is why I've tried to stay away from it in resent years. It doesn't offer anything good.

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It goes against out belief in God which brings so many negative issues we need not engage in

@DD with P*RN we just need to put it in it's proper place. Understanding that actors are chosen with 7in min is already one-sided. If this were real life we would see all types of D's in those, but we don't. Then it would be like less than 2-5% of that would be with men over 7in too.

So wifey used to not be good on top, a mix-up on both her and I. Her because she wasn't in the zone and she didn't know how to ride. Me because when she is on top I was just tapping the cervix, and as an inexperienced man I would say to myself I'm going deep... ATTACK! Wow was I wrong!! When you are at the Cervix you have to reposition, not try and jam it, that I know is the problem with most men when starting to go deep. Technically if she said you hurt you could have repositioned and hit the A-spot and both you and her would be in heaven. Instead of avoiding her on top, I would double down on it.

I say this because this is what happened to me. At 5.75 NBPEL I was there and a few times her on top was the most epic sex we ever had, but with just a little, 6 NBPEL I was there, and then when I repositioned she was like WOW! Talk about real life P*RN in front of you!!!

I'm a grower too, so I hear you bro! Trust the process don't give up. I am at one year of my third newbie routine. I am in Cloud 9, but just like you 2 months, 4 months, 8 months not until 9 months did everything start coming together, and then now at a year...OMG! it's a whole new world with Wifey!!! I want you to read my other post about things I did to spice things up after 14 years of marriage.

This is all great stuff! It is awesome to have a place to talk about this stuff. Even more than just how to get a bigger dick, but how to better your life and relationship. I will go over to your other thread as I have some more insight on there that my wife and I have learned.

DD85 said:

Well I guess like some guys, it looks small to me and smaller from the top down.

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Don't worry, mate... I think all (or most!) guys feel like that. I know for a fact (looking at the ruler, lol) that I'm considered "very large", but I often don't feel it when I look in the mirror 🥴.

Plus, with the p**n thing, you have to remember that most of the guys in the videos are only (or mainly) there because of their large size - they are VERY much the minority though when it comes to penis size... in reality/every day life, you're FAR more likely to find guys under 6" than over 7" or 8". Not to mention, the camera angles and close-ups make the penis look much bigger too(!).

DD85 said:

Well I guess like some guys, it looks small to me and smaller from the top down. Plus I'm a grower, so if Im not super turned on, it might be a little less. My wife has said some conflicting things to me in the past, so not sure what her deal is. She used to hate being on top because she said I was poking her and it hurt. That was before 2 kids. Can't win sometimes...lol.

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LOL I think it's 99.5% of the men out there look smaller from the top down. The base is always wider than the tip. I worked hard in the past few years to get the glans to expand, and refocus harder this year to get it even larger. This is why, for me, I attempt to focus on the glans expansion over the rest of the penile body. I noticed the larger glans helps my wife to enjoy the deep penetration moment without the "owwie!" while stimulating her spots. Lots of work.

DLD said:

It truly is it is about one inch above average in length and a quarter inch above average in girth

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Yes!

Rob35 said:

Don't worry, mate... I think all (or most!) guys feel like that. I know for a fact (looking at the ruler, lol) that I'm considered "very large", but I often don't feel it when I look in the mirror 🥴.

Plus, with the p**n thing, you have to remember that most of the guys in the videos are only (or mainly) there because of their large size - they are VERY much the minority though when it comes to penis size... in reality/every day life, you're FAR more likely to find guys under 6" than over 7" or 8". Not to mention, the camera angles and close-ups make the penis look much bigger too(!).

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We get used to our own penis that is why we do not feel big even when we are.
If your erected length are over 5 Inch length or you are approaching 6 you are big enough to make a woman squirt and feel wonderful squirting orgasms.

As you say, most men in those movies have their penis appear bigger then it is. This will warp your sens of reality, and you will start to believe that every man walking around in reality, are walking around with a 10 Inch long penis. They can make a 7 Inch long penis appear as if it was 10 Inch and a 5.5 Inch penis appear as if that was 7 in those movies. They can even edit videos in post production and use CGI (Computer-generated imagery) to increase the size of the penises (I don't know it they are doing that?).

These videos can destroy your brain.

squirt_inducer_man said:

We get used to our own penis that is why we do not feel big even when we are.
If your erected length are over 5 Inch length or you are approaching 6 you are big enough to make a woman squirt and feel wonderful squirting orgasms.

As you say, most men in those movies have their penis appear bigger then it is. This will warp your sens of reality, and you will start to believe that every man walking around in reality, are walking around with a 10 Inch long penis. They can make a 7 Inch long penis appear as if it was 10 Inch and a 5.5 Inch penis appear as if that was 7 in those movies. They can even edit videos in post production and use CGI (Computer-generated imagery) to increase the size of the penises (I don't know it they are doing that?).

These videos can destroy your brain.
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Awesome post!

Hey guys. It's been a while since I've posted anything. So as mentioned in my earlier posts, my main goal is girth work and if I get more length, that's fine. I still face some challenges with having enough time each day to do this with an active family at home and job. So my consistency honestly hasn't been the greatest. With the busyness in my house one of my biggest challenges is still getting in the mood to try and get an erection to use my pump. Most of my sessions have been starting from flaccid. I've also tried some new equipment. I got a 1.75" tube and pump with a gauge. I also have tried using an infrared heat pad wrapped around the tube. Ive been trying to pump with heat and cycle the pressure every few minutes. This combo has lead to more edema than any other combo I've done. When I remove the heating pad, I don't seem to get any edema. I notice though that my expansion is better with heat. I usually pump for no more than 15 min at a time and haven't gone over 7hg pressure. I tried a C ring a few times, but was scared off of that by the edema. Should I consider a water pump so that I can use warm water in the shower? I see gains when I'm in the pump, but only maybe 1/8" in new permanent girth when I'm fully erect. I know consistency is the key here, I just also want to be careful and not break anything.

I also forgot to mention that in the pump I can get up to 7" in length. My base girth starts to completely fill the tube for about the first 2 inches. I haven't noticed any more expansion than that further up yet. I am also doing kegel exercises almost every day as those are easy to fit into a busy day.

DD85 said:

Hey guys. It's been a while since I've posted anything. So as mentioned in my earlier posts, my main goal is girth work and if I get more length, that's fine. I still face some challenges with having enough time each day to do this with an active family at home and job. So my consistency honestly hasn't been the greatest. With the busyness in my house one of my biggest challenges is still getting in the mood to try and get an erection to use my pump. Most of my sessions have been starting from flaccid. I've also tried some new equipment. I got a 1.75" tube and pump with a gauge. I also have tried using an infrared heat pad wrapped around the tube. Ive been trying to pump with heat and cycle the pressure every few minutes. This combo has lead to more edema than any other combo I've done. When I remove the heating pad, I don't seem to get any edema. I notice though that my expansion is better with heat.

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Welcome back to the routine update brother. Try to post more frequently to update on your progression as things like edemas is something you want inquire about right away. Don't let it go for too long.

Let's break things down a bit. Heat + pressure = great expansion. Heat + pressure + long period under pressure = always edemas. The question should be, "How long are you under pressure before you see edemas?"

This is a critical break down to observation and routines to see if we can limit or eliminate the edemas. When you pump, you need to stop just before the point of fluid retentions and blistering forms. You also need to incorporate that SSJ into the mix. SSJ is more vital than the pumping as the pump simply acts as an external mechanism to pull in more blood for the SSJ to take advantage of. SSJ helps to expand internally, maximizing your gains. Brothers that use more SSJ and jelqing have hyper explosive growth to their girth.

DD85 said:

I usually pump for no more than 15 min at a time and haven't gone over 7hg pressure.

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As long as you go above 5inHg, the baseline of above-the-normal expansion, you're perfectly fine. No need to go crazy and head to the upper end of 10inHg. To be honest, I stay betwen 6inHg and 10inHg for most of my pump time, while I touch a hair above 10inHg to influence the initial hyper expansion. Don't worry about going high. Worry about getting the proper expansion you need and nothing more. No comparison to others. Only pay attention to your needs.

DD85 said:

I tried a C ring a few times, but was scared off of that by the edema.

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C-ring should be used at the end of the routines just to keep the penile body plump. You don't need a C-ring, and you don't need to make it tight. Just enough to allow blood naturally flow in and out of the penis while at its best flaccid volume. Your flaccid volume can be anywhere between 50% to as much as 100%. When we talk about blood volume during flaccid, it's a comparison to the volume of blood during a full erection, but you are at a relaxed flaccid state. Most flaccid state is below 50% in blood volume. Maintain it at 50% or greater will get the needed blood to repair the penis to make it larger faster.

DD85 said:

Should I consider a water pump so that I can use warm water in the shower?

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If you can pump out of your shower for additional relaxation, go for it. If it's too messy and you haven't mastered it yet, in the shower is best. I do 95% of my pumping out of the shower. My 5% in the shower is to cut down on the pumping time while I take a shower. Wife don't like a stinky guy next to her. She likes to mess with me while I pump. So, no stinky man allows.

DD85 said:

I see gains when I'm in the pump, but only maybe 1/8" in new permanent girth when I'm fully erect. I know consistency is the key here, I just also want to be careful and not break anything.

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If you follow the "safety's first" in your mind set, your growth will be slow and steady, but safely gain. My gains, just to compare to more aggressive brothers, are much slower but at the same time, much safer. Take your time. You only have one penis.

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Let's break things down a bit. Heat + pressure = great expansion. Heat + pressure + long period under pressure = always edemas. The question should be, "How long are you under pressure before you see edemas?".

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I don't notice any edema until after I come out of the pump. Sometimes it even takes a few minutes before I notice any bubbles. They are mostly right under my glans, I did have one weird looking line/bubble the last time I pumped and put a c ring on afterwards. That session was a longer pump maybe 20 min, with ir heat pad, and if I recall I might have went up to around 8hg in pressure. I also notice that I get more edema when I cycle the pressure. I read that brining the pressure back up too quickly might cause that.

DD85 said:

I don't notice any edema until after I come out of the pump. Sometimes it even takes a few minutes before I notice any bubbles. They are mostly right under my glans, I did have one weird looking line/bubble the last time I pumped and put a c ring on afterwards.

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It may appear that you have a weak skin layer under the glans, which may be the coronal ridge's skin. This skin layer shed quite often, and new layer of skin tends to be young and easily influenced by the pressure. The underskin layers (fascias) harden up over time and prevent it from happening. However...

DD85 said:

That session was a longer pump maybe 20 min, with ir heat pad, and if I recall I might have went up to around 8hg in pressure.

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This may be the trigger. Heat soften the skin layers and easily cause edemas. However, my concern is the time under negative pressure. Are you using the pump straight for 20 minutes between 7 and 8inHg? This may be the trigger. If you're doing it straight, edemas will form. Even with me. Break it down to smaller time period. Pumping for 3 to 5 minutes, perform SSJ or reverse jelqs, and resume pumping. Straight pumping under pressure that high will cause edemas since the fluid cannot backflow or drain from the penile body along the veins or the lymphnodes.

DD85 said:

I also notice that I get more edema when I cycle the pressure. I read that brining the pressure back up too quickly might cause that.

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Cycling the pressure as in dynamic pressures? Yes, that is correct that if the pressure raises too fast and drops too rapidly, it will cause edemas. The discussions have been talked about quite extensively. This is why we indicated to crawl during the raising of the pressure, and takes 10 seconds or more to release to the pressure from high to low. This stabilizes the pressure in the chambers and the fascias. Think of a human body going deep sea diving. Going up too fast from the depths will cause rapid gas expansions, and going down too fast causes rapid gas compression. Divers, or submariners, goes down and up slowly. Same for snorkers that interswitched with quick dives. I took the experiences of snorkling and quick shallow dives to bring to PE, and always chimed in about slow expansion and release during pumping.

oldandlively said:

It may appear that you have a weak skin layer under the glans, which may be the coronal ridge's skin. This skin layer shed quite often, and new layer of skin tends to be young and easily influenced by the pressure. The underskin layers (fascias) harden up over time and prevent it from happening. However...


This may be the trigger. Heat soften the skin layers and easily cause edemas. However, my concern is the time under negative pressure. Are you using the pump straight for 20 minutes between 7 and 8inHg? This may be the trigger. If you're doing it straight, edemas will form. Even with me. Break it down to smaller time period. Pumping for 3 to 5 minutes, perform SSJ or reverse jelqs, and resume pumping. Straight pumping under pressure that high will cause edemas since the fluid cannot backflow or drain from the penile body along the veins or the lymphnodes.


Cycling the pressure as in dynamic pressures? Yes, that is correct that if the pressure raises too fast and drops too rapidly, it will cause edemas. The discussions have been talked about quite extensively. This is why we indicated to crawl during the raising of the pressure, and takes 10 seconds or more to release to the pressure from high to low. This stabilizes the pressure in the chambers and the fascias. Think of a human body going deep sea diving. Going up too fast from the depths will cause rapid gas expansions, and going down too fast causes rapid gas compression. Divers, or submariners, goes down and up slowly. Same for snorkers that interswitched with quick dives. I took the experiences of snorkling and quick shallow dives to bring to PE, and always chimed in about slow expansion and release during pumping.

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So when I started playing around with pumping, I would only pump up to pressure and stay there for the duration of the session unless I felt discomfort. I would get to a comfortable level (roughly 5hg) then keep raising it up until I was done. Now just in the last month is when I've tried cycling pressure every 2-3 minutes, climbing a little higher with every new repressure. I started that at the same time as I started applying heat from the pad. I will admit, that I usually feel hurried to do this, so I know I'm not taking my time to slowly release and sometimes I am pumping up too quickly. I know I need to slow down. I guess I keep trying to just "fit in" my PE sessions whenever I can with time being short most days.

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So when I started playing around with pumping, I would only pump up to pressure and stay there for the duration of the session unless I felt discomfort. I would get to a comfortable level (roughly 5hg) then keep raising it up until I was done. Now just in the last month is when I've tried cycling pressure every 2-3 minutes, climbing a little higher with every new repressure. I started that at the same time as I started applying heat from the pad. I will admit, that I usually feel hurried to do this, so I know I'm not taking my time to slowly release and sometimes I am pumping up too quickly. I know I need to slow down. I guess I keep trying to just "fit in" my PE sessions whenever I can with time being short most days.

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We all learn through experience and mistakes. Mistakes are the bases of improvements. However, do know that pumping alone doesn't work as great as a combo of SSJ and pumping. For me, I switch between some days with pumping first for 3 to 5 minutes max, then switch to SSJ for 6 to 10 minutes. There are days I do the stretches and SSJ first for 5 to 10 minutes, then pump only for 3 to 5 minutes. Pumping is just to further help the expansion along. Don't depend so much on pumping that you sell yourself short on the SSJ benefits.

The trick is to make sure to always, always, always pump while you're at full erection when possible. This is where the true expansion occurs. SSJ only requires you to be at 80% in terms of erected blood volume to produce that 110% volume expansion. It's weird to say it, but it's very easy to understand when you do it.

Keep us updated brother. Brother @huge-girth is always around for coaching purposes. I'll be around to be a sounding board and give minutiae advices. @DLD is here to correct the both of us as the guru of the brotherhood. Other brothers will act as check and balance based on their experiences. So come at us like a madman with the aim for a python penis.

Thanks to all of you guys. I will have to implement more of the ssj routine as well. I still struggle to get hard on demand sometimes which I think is why I haven't bothered with some of the other methods. I'll do what I can to make this work. I really do want to see permanent gains.

DD85 said:

Thanks to all of you guys. I will have to implement more of the ssj routine as well. I still struggle to get hard on demand sometimes which I think is why I haven't bothered with some of the other methods. I'll do what I can to make this work. I really do want to see permanent gains.

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No worries brother. We all have our hard time in getting full erections on demand without extra stimulation. This is why I try to pump as much as I can in front of my wife to get that extra teases from her. But do your best. You don't have to get hard until you are under pressure around 3 or 4inHg. Do you best after the pressure is engaged.