Need post-op PE routine. PLEASE READ!

Hi!
First: some facts:
Age: 21

BPFL: 3,0“
NBPFL: 2,6“
FG: 3,7“

BPenis EnlargementL: 4,9“
NBPenis EnlargementL: 4,5“
EG: 4,5“

I am planning to having a penis lengthening surgery done this summer, and I am trying to plan an effective Penis Enlargement routine tailored to perfection for post-op usage. I would really like if you suggested a fully detailed routine spanning over several months. I am open to suggestions about using anything manual/mechanical. Making/buying necessary equipment is also no problem (although i should mention that i already have the andropenis extender).
Please mind my low stats and post-op state when suggesting exercises/equipment.
Thanks in advance guys!

(Please read my other post as well; dealing with questions regarding surgery)

A few thoughts and some advice that may help. First and foremost your erect length is extremely close to average (approximately .5" off) this type of gain in natural Penis Enlargement with many men happens almost immediately after starting Penis Enlargement. On an even better note Penis Enlargement gains, on the high end, have been as much as 4" in length. With half of this as a gain you will be in the above average to large classification. Girth-wise you are right at average and, again, newbie gains in girth can be very quick.

Without getting too much into the mental portion of Penis Enlargement I would like to say that with determination and commitment you can make any of the above happen.

Using an extender is a wonderful way to supplement your gains in natural, manual Penis Enlargement. The fastest gains, on record (including surgery) have come from manual Penis Enlargement. The best program for this, of course, is Matters of Size and unlike surgery MOS costs less than 50 bucks. Surgery, on average, is about 1000% of the cost of a MOS membership. In addition, you don't even need to spend any money learning Penis Enlargement techniques here on the forum for free. The members site gives you much more information, videos, illustrations, sound bites, etc. and, in my opinion, is a very wise move.

I advise you to only explore Penis Enlargement surgery as a last and final option. In your other thread I gave you some good information to study to help you make a rational, comprehensive decision. Give the MOS program and support team here on the forums a chance and you may be pleasantly surprised and save a ton of money and risk.

I am sure you will get a lot more advise.

DLD

ye surgery is the relatively quick, but risky and expensive fix.

I agree with dld on this one. you can achieve great results from a Penis Enlargement program if you devote your time to it. In the end, you can still opt for surgery if that is not enough.

From what i have seen, it looks as if the surgery is much more successful increasing girth. The lengh gains are only marginal.

just my 2 cents but earning what you work for is alot sweeter than paying for what you want

Your surgeon will likely require you follow his post-op regimen.

mistashort;298708 said:

Hi!
First: some facts:
Age: 21

BPFL: 3,0“
NBPFL: 2,6“
FG: 3,7“

BPenis EnlargementL: 4,9“
NBPenis EnlargementL: 4,5“
EG: 4,5“

I am planning to having a penis lengthening surgery done this summer, and I am trying to plan an effective Penis Enlargement routine tailored to perfection for post-op usage. I would really like if you suggested a fully detailed routine spanning over several months. I am open to suggestions about using anything manual/mechanical. Making/buying necessary equipment is also no problem (although i should mention that i already have the andropenis extender).
Please mind my low stats and post-op state when suggesting exercises/equipment.
Thanks in advance guys!

(Please read my other post as well; dealing with questions regarding surgery)

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Please please please do not get any surgery! Do not do not do it!!!!!!!!!!

I normally don't demand someone not do something but in cases of like this I will.

I have seen pix of people from other forums who had the surgery and the dicks look deformed. You are opening-up yourself up to a lifetime of unhappiness and physical problems NO MATTER WHAT THE DOCTORS SAY!!!!

just coming off of length surgery, i'd have to say its not that bad of a deal...i'm feeling the pull in areas i've never felt it before...so far i've had a good experience.

Hey!
Thanks for your replies. I will adress you respectively
DLD: You said my EL is close to average (5.4-5.5") by lacking half a inch, but i believe the world average isn't measured bonepressed, setting me back to a whole inch behind world average.

Furthermore, studies shows that most caucasian males in scandinavia (where i am from) are around 5.9-6.0", and the general consensus amongst women is that 6.4" is preferable (surveys).... which seems as a hard goal to achieve

As for trying Penis Enlargement, i have been using the Andropenis extender on and off for a year and intensively for a shorter period (ADS-ing and all), but did not gain...
I believe gains caused by manual Penis Enlargement are very individual and being somewhat of a grower (it's pretty small flaccid) most of those exersizes seem hard to do.
I wasn't thinking of only doing the surgery, but using it to make the Penis Enlargement more effective, I was even thinking of supplementing the whole thing with using a DHT cream as well. As for adding girth, the year of Penis Enlargement post-op could prove that I won't need widening. I will probably register for the 50bucks, but then I really demand a really good routine to follow after surgery (more intensive) and perhaps for the rest of my life (cementing and just maintaining gains)

Wang Chung:
The girth surgery does show more gains, but is also far more risky than the length procedure. Most horror stories seem to be due to incompetent surgeons using FFT and bad grafting for widening. That's why I want to wait such a procedure. The rate of success seems also to rise as time goes (alot of the stories are from 2000-2004 and with certain surgeons (RHEINSHEILD))
Retraction caused by lengthening seem to be very seldom nowadays. And if that being the case Penis Enlargement has proven to get them back to pre-op status.
Having no gains after squandering $5000 would be really depressing, but at least I would have tried and not still doing Penis Enlargement without results wondering "what if".

seeking 8.5x6: easy for you to say, having a huge dick.
moregains123: i guess the may have some advise, but i doubt they give you a full-blooded routine. Besides who has the most experience with gaining lenght doing Penis Enlargement? The guy cutting ligaments or the people actually doing it, seeing what makes results?

planes: deformed? you must be thinking of widening surgery. i am not entirely sure about carrying that out yet (as for lengthening, which seems safer)

stillhangin: that's was a relief to hear. what surgeon did you use, did you have any complications? could you keep us posted about your gains, if there occurs any problems, etc. Either directly on the forum or on pm.. That would have been great!

I used to be opposed to surgery, but I've learned quite a bit about it in the recent years. I was only opposed to surgery in the past...mainly because I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. Lengthening is a very simple procedure. You pay mainly for the cost of the surgery center/room, and the doctors' expertise. A small incision is made in the 'fat pad' area above the base ligs. Those ligs are severed. This takes away the obstruction of having to stretch those ligs through manual stretching (which most post op patients would not have the discipline to stick with), or hanging weights. Hell, considering the FACT that most men don't even have the discipline to stick with most Penis Enlargement routines long enough to see results, can you blame a guy for wanting a "quick fix"? Especially if it gives him the gains that would normally be seen (minimum 1" length, 1-2" girth) from manual Penis Enlargement...but with nowhere near the time commitment.

It's not always about discipline, or a willingness to stay committed. Most men who qualify (physically, and financially) for surgery are TOO BUSY in their daily schedule to commit time to making their penis bigger.

I just wish there was a way to stop men from going to the wrong doctors (I won't mention names as I enjoy my financial situation the way it is). This would help prevent most of the horror stories you hear about. Then again, so would following proper post op regimens. These assholes claiming a procedure like FFT is "permanent" and failing to mention BEFORE the procedure that there's a need for repeat procedures every 3-6 months to fill in the lumps and spaces that develop from inevitable re-absorbtion of the liquified (liposutioned) fat that is injected under the skin.

A guy can't go into surgery expecting a miracle. Not for length anyway. You still need to follow a weight hanging routine. Granted, you will invest MUCH less time post op due to a lack of, or less of an obstruction from the main limiter, the ligs.

I used Dr. Rosenthal in Beverly Hills. i went with him because out of all the ones i tried to contact, he was the only one that made an effort to reply with something besides "just come in". he was very helpful pre-op even before we met, and is extremely helpful post-op, scheduling weekly meetings to make sure everything is healing well with no complications and such.

as of yet, no complications, and from what i've experienced so far, i don't think there will be. the one thing though that you have to remember is that when they say "no strenuous activity" they mean it. i had to help out my parents with moving some stuff in their house the day after surgery. my mom had me move their big screen, and i almost popped something. thank god i had on a bandage, because i was bleeding. make sure you follow the post-op instructions to the letter.

don't worry, i'll keep you posted on stuff. we're like a little family here on this board, we got you covered.

stillwantmore2;298783 said:

I used to be opposed to surgery, but I've learned quite a bit about it in the recent years. I was only opposed to surgery in the past...mainly because I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. Lengthening is a very simple procedure. You pay mainly for the cost of the surgery center/room, and the doctors' expertise. A small incision is made in the 'fat pad' area above the base ligs. Those ligs are severed. This takes away the obstruction of having to stretch those ligs through manual stretching (which most post op patients would not have the discipline to stick with), or hanging weights. Hell, considering the FACT that most men don't even have the discipline to stick with most Penis Enlargement routines long enough to see results, can you blame a guy for wanting a "quick fix"? Especially if it gives him the gains that would normally be seen (minimum 1" length, 1-2" girth) from manual Penis Enlargement...but with nowhere near the time commitment.

It's not always about discipline, or a willingness to stay committed. Most men who qualify (physically, and financially) for surgery are TOO BUSY in their daily schedule to commit time to making their penis bigger.

I just wish there was a way to stop men from going to the wrong doctors (I won't mention names as I enjoy my financial situation the way it is). This would help prevent most of the horror stories you hear about. Then again, so would following proper post op regimens. These assholes claiming a procedure like FFT is "permanent" and failing to mention BEFORE the procedure that there's a need for repeat procedures every 3-6 months to fill in the lumps and spaces that develop from inevitable re-absorbtion of the liquified (liposutioned) fat that is injected under the skin.

A guy can't go into surgery expecting a miracle. Not for length anyway. You still need to follow a weight hanging routine. Granted, you will invest MUCH less time post op due to a lack of, or less of an obstruction from the main limiter, the ligs.

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I am glad you did not run into any complications. But you make severing the ligaments sound mundane.

What many fail to consider are the long term complications. The ligaments are there to support and hold in place the penis. The penis holds the uretha and many blood vessels as well as the direction during erection. The penis is a whole instrument which works together.

In my opinion, to simply cut a major portion of the penis rendering this part of it useless is a very cavalier, to say the least, thing to do.

It is very important to look into the future and to your senior years. The potential complications are numerous. Excessive curvature, separation of the uretha-leading to infection and or having to use a urine bag, possible complications from ED drugs. A hardening of the severed ligaments leading to pain and a dystrophy so to speak, of the ligaments leading to infection.

Its risky enough to jelg as you are in essence deforming the penis. But at least we are keeping it whole. If I remember correct in the opening thread, you state you are 21.

You are only 1/4 through your life. You have about 60 more years left.
If you are willing to take the risk to cut your penis why not take the risk to jelg for 2 years. Lets say you gain 1.5 inches in that two years which is on the low average. Your size will be 6.25 nbp. Thats high average.

I was 5.5 bp when I started i am now 6 and and 1/8th nbp and 6.5 and an 1/8th bp in 11 weeks.

At 5.5 I had a very satisfying sex life for 30 years. I never had a girl tell me I was too small. What I am saying is to me the risk reward isn't there my friend.

Get this surgery thing out of your head. Do you want to be 50 with a limp dick and just barely getting it up or a 6 inch power hardon from the jelging you did.

^ Wisely said.

planes;298934 said:

I am glad you did not run into any complications. But you make severing the ligaments sound mundane.

What many fail to consider are the long term complications. The ligaments are there to support and hold in place the penis. The penis holds the uretha and many blood vessels as well as the direction during erection. The penis is a whole instrument which works together.

In my opinion, to simply cut a major portion of the penis rendering this part of it useless is a very cavalier, to say the least, thing to do.

It is very important to look into the future and to your senior years. The potential complications are numerous. Excessive curvature, separation of the uretha-leading to infection and or having to use a urine bag, possible complications from ED drugs. A hardening of the severed ligaments leading to pain and a dystrophy so to speak, of the ligaments leading to infection.

Its risky enough to jelg as you are in essence deforming the penis. But at least we are keeping it whole. If I remember correct in the opening thread, you state you are 21.

You are only 1/4 through your life. You have about 60 more years left.
If you are willing to take the risk to cut your penis why not take the risk to jelg for 2 years. Lets say you gain 1.5 inches in that two years which is on the low average. Your size will be 6.25 nbp. Thats high average.

I was 5.5 bp when I started i am now 6 and and 1/8th nbp and 6.5 and an 1/8th bp in 11 weeks.

At 5.5 I had a very satisfying sex life for 30 years. I never had a girl tell me I was too small. What I am saying is to me the risk reward isn't there my friend.

Get this surgery thing out of your head. Do you want to be 50 with a limp dick and just barely getting it up or a 6 inch power hardon from the jelging you did.

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Planes, you have me mixed up with someone who doesn't know anything. I'm also 29, nearly 30. The rest of your "reply" does not apply to me either. I have not had any surgical procedures done, but know quite a bit more about them than I used to. I'd rather not have anything below the 7" non bp I currently have.

DGreekStallion;298937 said:

^ Wisely said.

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LOL, you sure about that?

thanks for continuing the thread. but please help with the Penis Enlargement post-op routine, i think i get the general idea about your opinions towards surgery i need the routine ready, just in case.

stillwantmore2: i was thinking of using the summer for intense post-op streching. i'll find a way to continue this when fall comes, and i get busy again.
otherwise, a lot of wise words in your post there. appreciate it.

stillhangin: i have sent out letters to the three best surgeons in my opinion, dr. krakovsky, dr. alter and dr. rosenthal. i have gotten two letters from dr. alter already. the first one seemed pretty standard, not answering all of my questions.. the second gave me short answers on everything he overlooked in the first letter. a positive impression.
-rosenthal has been on tv shows, and seems to have had more experience in the lengthening procedure than alter, since he specializes in so few fields. i think you made a good choice. krakovsky haven't i heard about earlier, but people seem to give him alot of creds on forums. especially on his girth surgery. some more testimonials and time will tell.
it's great that you are gonna keep me posted, and indirectly helping me chose whether or not to do the surgery and which surgeon. i'm really happy that it's people like you out there, man.

planes: your post is very informative as well, listing the potential dangers of doing the surgery. i'd always read about the lack of side-effects, and the myths about loss of angle and stability. and it didn't occur to me before now that the most "rumours" about the procedure were about short-term complications. i will ask the three surgeons and search the web about your list of long-term such. you were 5.5"? i will probably end up around there, so show some understanding on my present situation.

DGreekStallion: not very informative, but thanks anyway.

stillwantmore2: are you like advertising for surgery, not explicit but perhaps later.. from phallocare and mynewsize? i think your replies are great, but they don't seem very impartial coming from a guy that are affiliated with a clinic.

Yeh man, dont do an surgery, follow all DLD steps even i that im skeptic im seeing gains, but dont think 2 much just do the routines normally, and dont forget to in final cementing your gains to dont lose never more what you will win, good luck!

stillwantmore2;298949 said:

Planes, you have me mixed up with someone who doesn't know anything. I'm also 29, nearly 30. The rest of your "reply" does not apply to me either. I have not had any surgical procedures done, but know quite a bit more about them than I used to. I'd rather not have anything below the 7" non bp I currently have.

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Sorry bout that.

mistashort;299058 said:

stillwantmore2: are you like advertising for surgery, not explicit but perhaps later.. from phallocare and mynewsize? i think your replies are great, but they don't seem very impartial coming from a guy that are affiliated with a clinic.

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I'm not "affiliated" with any clinics. Definitely NOT with Phallocare either. (They are no longer in business nor associated with anyone). I offer pre surgery consultations...which usually just involves a price quote, answering surgery related questions, telling a guy about financing, and never hearing from him again. I'm not employed buy a clinic, or a doctor. I'm a long time member of many Penis Enlargement forums, a Penis Enlargement vet myself (9 years experience), and quite knowledgeable about Penis Enlargement, surgery, etc. I get a few calls a week from mostly curious men who are weighing their options.

If I were associated with a clinic, or doctor specifically, I'd be throwing out names, saying things like "you can't go wrong with OUR services, or doctor!", and things like that.

SWM,

If I'm not mistaken you made most of your length gains from hanging without surgery. If I were in your position I would have adviced anyone seeking length gains to go the hanging route.

I wonder why you're a proponent of surgery? Is it because you believe hanging post-op is much more efficient in bringing gains than hanging alone without being 'cut'??

I'm really curious if hanging post op is more effective than hanging on its own?? I havent heard of anyone citing personal experience from post-op hanging but there are tons of guys like yourself who did it with hanging alone.

Thanks.

ozzy83;300438 said:

SWM,

I'm really curious if hanging post op is more effective than hanging on its own?? I havent heard of anyone citing personal experience from post-op hanging but there are tons of guys like yourself who did it with hanging alone.

Thanks.

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the reason post-op hanging is more effective than hanging on its own is because you don't have to fight against the ligaments.