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There will be a lot of resistance to you reading what i'm about to quote and that is because the devil does not want you to read this, he is VERY manipulative. Try and clear your mind and read this short message.


"The Bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in Heaven to pray for them. The Bible nowhere describes anyone in Heaven praying for anyone on earth. (2) The Bible gives absolutely no indication that Mary or the saints can hear our prayers. Mary and the saints are not omniscient. Even glorified in Heaven, they are still finite beings with limitations. How could they possibly hear the prayers of millions of people? Whenever the Bible mentions praying to or speaking with the dead, it is in the context of sorcery, witchcraft, necromancy, and divination - activities the Bible strongly condemns (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-13). The one instance when a "saint" is spoken to, Samuel in 1 Samuel 28:7-19, Samuel was not exactly happy to be disturbed. It is plainly clear that praying to Mary or the saints is completely different from asking someone here on earth to pray for you. One has a strong Biblical basis, the other has no Biblical basis whatsoever." Got Questions Ministries

I copied this because i feel it words my opinions very well. God nowhere says that we should COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEAD!! I am telling you this because i love you all!! I care for you. Praying to the DEAD will only provide you with FALSE securities. The SPIRITS OF THE DEAD will glady do the LITTLE things that they can to hold you captive.

Please read the HOLY BIBLE, the Word of the LORD, He speaks the Truth through it.

I expect to be bashed for my words of love to YOU.

BxB
 
No one is going to bash you for this. Its interpretation like all things. I see no problem with praying to the saints and know millions do it around the world and they do listen and answer prayers through god. St Jude for example is for hopless and lost causes. Has a national shrine in Chicago which has a website here. THOUSANDS go and pray, its hardly evil or going against god at all.

I know in the bible it says not to use Ouija boards and tarot cards etc that mediums who speak with the dead are speaking with demons because god wont allow unless in exceptional circumstances a dead human spirit to communicate like this.

Its all interpretation I think of the religious scriptures.
 
Hey Red, I appreciate your response and in my most respectful manner i just want to say that because there are lots of websites and millions of people doing it doesn't make it right. I was just trying to point out the Word of the LORD not the word of the world. It is so easy to believe something is true because lots of people do it.... The bible is God's word and if its not biblical then it is not of Him.

Sincerly
BxB
 
Dude with all due respect I would rather see u post ur religious beliefs on a related forum not on a penis enlargement forum.
Happy stretching!

QUOTE=BANANAxBOY;415805]Hey Red, I appreciate your response and in my most respectful manner i just want to say that because there are lots of websites and millions of people doing it doesn't make it right. I was just trying to point out the Word of the LORD not the word of the world. It is so easy to believe something is true because lots of people do it.... The bible is God's word and if its not biblical then it is not of Him.

Sincerly
BxB[/QUOTE]
 
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Never forget, though, that: 1) "The Bible" is an incomplete document. By both accident & omission as well as design. 2) It is just that; a document. & 3) What has been translated into English has quite a few glaring deficiencies and mistranslations.

Couple these with the, almost literally, Universe of difference between knowledge meant for the common people and knowledge meant for Levites and the Rulers of Houses, and "The Bible" starts looking like the Dark Energy/Matter we've only just discovered.



BANANAxBOY;415805 said:
Hey Red, I appreciate your response and in my most respectful manner i just want to say that because there are lots of websites and millions of people doing it doesn't make it right. I was just trying to point out the Word of the LORD not the word of the world. It is so easy to believe something is true because lots of people do it.... The bible is God's word and if its not biblical then it is not of Him.

Sincerly
BxB
 
Thank you for your response Dickleaker, but this is "THE ART OF ATTRACTION FORUM" not penis enlargement forum.

BxB
 
With all due respect MAXAMEYES, try and prove your number 1 point and if you can, 2 and 3. The word of the Lord was, is, and never will be an accident. I tell you this because i care for you GREATLY and i don't want you to be deceived by the devil. If you could carefully explain why the bible is an accident or is an incomplete document, could you please explain it to me? I am someone that really seeks truth and i want to know what is true and whats going to happen by fact. You see, everything i have read in the bible Has been fulfilled, IS Being fulfilled, and i am lead to believe Will be fulfilled. MAXAMEYES, if you could help me i would greatly appreciate it, I want to know what is true, and if you know Truth then please help me!!

Sinserly,

BxB
 
Ah sorry Banana boy...my mistake !
BANANAxBOY;415842 said:
Thank you for your response Dickleaker, but this is "THE ART OF ATTRACTION FORUM" not penis enlargement forum.

BxB
 
BANANAxBOY;415842 said:
Thank you for your response Dickleaker, but this is "THE ART OF ATTRACTION FORUM" not penis enlargement forum.

BxB

I agree
 
Yes I know what the bible says, I also have read the Koran in part as well amongst other religious literature. I respect ALL religions and ALL views from them. I NEVER think my own religion, which is Church of England (COE which is Protestant) is the one and all, the be all and end all. I know of religious fanatics who think they are the messiah and what they say is IT ... no it isn't and many times what they say from the bible or Koran as being said by god is INTERPRETATION of it from what they would like to see it as .... this is human nature, we interpret things differently and is why lunatics did the 9/11 horror in the name of Islam when it was not Islam at all, but brainwashed demons I would say.

God loves us all ... I truly believe this. We can sin and sin badly, yet we can make amends with him by confessing, hail marry, our father by being better and altering our ways to become merciful in his eyes again.

People pray to saints and this is fine. St Mary is prayed to, many pray to St Michael and indeed Catholic churches recited his prayer for protection at each mass.

Exorcists pray to St Mary and St Michael, miracles are performed by saints and this is held in high regard by many myself incl. This was not acts of demons pretending to be something else, but true divine intervention. Jesus Christ the lord works in mysterious ways.
 
This thread could be how darkness has infiltrated religion and twisted it to suit those with evil intentions. A good site to visit here will show references to how the Devil has already started to influence various prayers as such. Always say Jesus Christ and not just simply Jesus when you pray.
 
In my opinion you dont need a book like the bible. Did you forget that the bible was written by human beeing? Religions are made for controlling the crowd!
Just believe in God, but dont give a shit of the worlds a human being wrote on a document, that´s my opinion. As long as your Soul doesn´t feels any "pain" when you´re doing something, you´re doing the right. You don´t have to act like someone tells you in a book...
Just act like you think it´s the right way and God will appreciate this. Relegions always were the reason´s for war and they still are, so they can´t be a product of God. Nothing against ur opinion, just my two cents.

Sorry for the bad english ;)
 
NT: JOHN 21 25 And there are also many other things -- as many as Jesus did -- which, if they may be written one by one, not even the world itself I think to have place for the books written. Amen.

OT: DANIEL 12 1`And at that time stand up doth Michael, the great head, who is standing up for the sons of thy people, and there hath been a time of distress, such as hath not been since there hath been a nation till that time, and at that time do thy people escape, every one who is found written in the book.

2`And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-during.

3And those teaching do shine as the brightness of the expanse, and those justifying the multitude as stars to the age and for ever.

4And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'

5And I have looked -- I, Daniel -- and lo, two others are standing, one here at the edge of the flood, and one there at the edge of the flood,

6and he saith to the one clothed in linen, who [is] upon the waters of the flood, `Till when [is] the end of these wonders?'

7And I hear the one clothed in linen, who [is] upon the waters of the flood, and he doth lift up his right hand and his left unto the heavens, and sweareth by Him who is living to the age, that, `After a time, times, and a half, and at the completion of the scattering of the power of the holy people, finished are all these.'

8And I have heard, and I do not understand, and I say, `O my lord, what [is] the latter end of these?'

9And he saith, `Go, Daniel; for hidden and sealed [are] the things till the time of the end;

10Purify themselves, yea, make themselves white, yea, refined are many: and the wicked have done wickedly, and none of the wicked understand, and those acting wisely do understand;

11and from the time of the turning aside of the perpetual [sacrifice], and to the giving out of the desolating abomination, [are] days a thousand, two hundred, and ninety.

YOUNG'S LITERAL TRANSLATION
 
REDZULU2003;415910 said:
Yes I know what the bible says, I also have read the Koran in part as well amongst other religious literature. I respect ALL religions and ALL views from them. I NEVER think my own religion, which is Church of England (COE which is Protestant) is the one and all, the be all and end all. I know of religious fanatics who think they are the messiah and what they say is IT ... no it isn't and many times what they say from the bible or Koran as being said by god is INTERPRETATION of it from what they would like to see it as .... this is human nature, we interpret things differently and is why lunatics did the 9/11 horror in the name of Islam when it was not Islam at all, but brainwashed demons I would say.

God loves us all ... I truly believe this. We can sin and sin badly, yet we can make amends with him by confessing, hail marry, our father by being better and altering our ways to become merciful in his eyes again.

People pray to saints and this is fine. St Mary is prayed to, many pray to St Michael and indeed Catholic churches recited his prayer for protection at each mass.

Exorcists pray to St Mary and St Michael, miracles are performed by saints and this is held in high regard by many myself incl. This was not acts of demons pretending to be something else, but true divine intervention. Jesus Christ the lord works in mysterious ways.

I guess we will have to agree to disagre then brother, i don't believe that some of these things come straight from the Bible. I'm glad we can agree that the Lord loves us all! Praise Him for that.

BxB
 
MAXAMEYES;415983 said:
NT: JOHN 21 25 And there are also many other things -- as many as Jesus did -- which, if they may be written one by one, not even the world itself I think to have place for the books written. Amen.

OT: DANIEL 12 1`And at that time stand up doth Michael, the great head, who is standing up for the sons of thy people, and there hath been a time of distress, such as hath not been since there hath been a nation till that time, and at that time do thy people escape, every one who is found written in the book.

2`And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-during.

3And those teaching do shine as the brightness of the expanse, and those justifying the multitude as stars to the age and for ever.

4And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'

5And I have looked -- I, Daniel -- and lo, two others are standing, one here at the edge of the flood, and one there at the edge of the flood,

6and he saith to the one clothed in linen, who [is] upon the waters of the flood, `Till when [is] the end of these wonders?'

7And I hear the one clothed in linen, who [is] upon the waters of the flood, and he doth lift up his right hand and his left unto the heavens, and sweareth by Him who is living to the age, that, `After a time, times, and a half, and at the completion of the scattering of the power of the holy people, finished are all these.'

8And I have heard, and I do not understand, and I say, `O my lord, what [is] the latter end of these?'

9And he saith, `Go, Daniel; for hidden and sealed [are] the things till the time of the end;

10Purify themselves, yea, make themselves white, yea, refined are many: and the wicked have done wickedly, and none of the wicked understand, and those acting wisely do understand;

11and from the time of the turning aside of the perpetual [sacrifice], and to the giving out of the desolating abomination, [are] days a thousand, two hundred, and ninety.

YOUNG'S LITERAL TRANSLATION

Becuase I care for you, i would like to go over each individual verse that you have taken out of context to try and make look bad, i'm assuming your trying to make the bible look bad becuase you have taken just single verses and not the whole message that is being taught in the chapter.



JOHN 21 25 And there are also many other things -- as many as Jesus did -- which, if they may be written one by one, not even the world itself I think to have place for the books written. Amen.

I will assume that you think Jesus has not allowed every single thing to be written that happened in his lifetime since you have not specified, and that you have a problem with this.

The things that were chosen to be written in the bible were those Chosen by the Lord. For the bible says many times it is the word of the Lord.
 
BBOY: I'm not out to make anything look BAD, I'm illustrating, as you requested, that the Bible, as we know it, is an incomplete document. Simply that, no need for ire.
If I had wanted to make the bible look bad I would have pointed out much of the blatantly contradictory, bloodthirsty or simply eradicated details.

Not to mention the fact that if you read the Old Testament in anything other than its original Hebrew you are reading a highly adulterated version; which is/was in and of itself forbidden to the point of nullifying the book, and its intended message.
 
The Great Commandment
Via BIBLEGATEWAY.COM:


MATTHEW 22 (ESV)

34(AM) But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced(AN) the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35(AO) And one of them,(AP) a lawyer, asked him a question(AQ) to test him. 36"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37And he said to him, (AR) "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38This is the great and first commandment. 39And(AS) a second is like it:(AT) You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40(AU) On these two commandments depend(AV) all the Law and the Prophets."

See: Rabbi Hillel "...the rest is commentary. Now go and study."
 
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REDZULU2003;416270 said:
Banana Boy I think you will like this link as its along the lines where your coming from.

I believe there is a lot of truth to what it is saying….

BXB
 
MAXAMEYES;416278 said:
The Great Commandment
Via BIBLEGATEWAY.COM:


MATTHEW 22 (ESV)

34(AM) But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced(AN) the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35(AO) And one of them,(AP) a lawyer, asked him a question(AQ) to test him. 36"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37And he said to him, (AR) "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38This is the great and first commandment. 39And(AS) a second is like it:(AT) You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40(AU) On these two commandments depend(AV) all the Law and the Prophets."

See: Rabbi Hillel "...the rest is commentary. Now go and study."

Hey MAXAMEYES, I see you have posted this passage, but what is your point here? There is nothing that you can prove incomplete or wrong about the bible. Is there something contradictory? There is nothing incorrect or incomplete about this as far as i'm concerned but maybe you could help me understand otherwise?

BxB
 
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