lol
where do you guys get the energy and the time for these endless posts? :D
 
MICKsnatch said:
Theres a reason you cant define wrong. There is no such thing as "wrong", it is not concrete- it is an idea . It's liek saying definme love,hate, respect, and so on. Even though there is a general idea they mean different things to different people, their meanings are infinite.

OK, so is murder wrong? I thought you said there was something fucked up with "Silence of the Lambs" shit. I assume you mean what I was referring to was wrong. So there is no such thing as right and wrong in this world and everyone should live in a complete state of anarchy?
 
hopful said:
lol
where do you guys get the energy and the time for these endless posts? :D

I type fast, and it does not take me much time to reply. Plus I don't get emotional about it all just I have fun rolling with the punches. Its all good if you ask me (-:
 
@MCTFB


Spooky ! I read all of your comments in this thread and really felt what you tried to say.
My way of thinking and making a difference between whats "wrong" and "right" for me and for others is indeed very similar to yours.

Putting thoughts into words in such a rich, vivid and stylish way seems to come easy to you. You have an excellent sense of humor wich I like.

jakb said "Youve obviously spent alot of time, energy and thought on this. Seems a waste."

I felt it was the best read since I joined the Forum. If you really think about it jakb, MCTFB is/was the only guy so far who offered "real help" , shared deep thoughts and even shed light on possible consequences MOST Penis EnlargementOPLE WOULDN't EVER THINK ABOUT ! And even if they did they would ignore it.


MCTFB ! I said that we have a similar way of thinking and judging things , however I tend to be more pessimistic. I lost the energy to explain things to people I don't care about. I developed a hate for the stupid masses. For people who are blind by decision.

people who lie to themselves (because its the easy way out of everything) and then believe in this lie are lost souls to me. They can't be argued with.

Looking at the world , the way society developes , the way kids grow up now and the sure death of morals, belief , respect , modesty, moderation , family , truth, for the majority makes me unhappy, pessimistic.

How do you feel about the masses ? Does it make you said ? DO you even care ? Is it even possible to care ? I don't have enough tears to cry for every dead or abused child,women illustrated each and every day in the news. I see but I Ignore. Self-defense. The more you know about life in general , the less you want to know.

My way out is to make sure that I have contact with people who are free in their minds, have charakter, experience and respect for their own life.
I can learn from them alot.
You don't have to be highly intelligent to be my friend. I fear I ain't myself. Being good hearted and judging real right from real wrong is what counts to me. Also being happy and thankful for what you already have is very important. Some people are always unhappy because they forget to stop the endless chase or pursuit of happyness and realize there are already millions of reasons to be happy !


@MCTFB - I look forward to reading more of your wityful comments.
"just I have fun rolling with the punches" - I guess that is really why you post here. Sport for the intellect. YOu need output ? Do you feel lonely when you fail to explain something because the other person is blind, and ignorant ? What is your way out ?


@jakb - remember the time when you didn't have a girlfriend , yet wanted one really bad. Remember how beautyful the first date was. Her smile and giggle. How you enjoyed her company ?! Then the first time you kissed , the first time you 2 got intimate. Didn't you feel like the luckiest mofo.
Why do you need more than that ? Have you lost this feeling ? Have you lost respect for her ? Is this high , that I'm sure used to be THE BIGGEST THING IN THE WORLD at the given moment , less important to you now. Is there really any need to "top" it ?
You don't appriciate what you already have , neither does your girlfriend ! You already began looking for alternatives , for another "highs". This is greed ! There must be something wrong with your relationship. Something that used to be there , obviously is lost. The truth is (my truth , my real "right") there is no need whatsoever for a threesome. Talk to her , tell her what
MCTFB told you. See what happens. If she still insists - dump her greedy ass. Or be a slave to your dick , a slave to her pussy , screw morals , screw her and her friend , believe in a lie - learn the hard way that having fun and being truly happy (no matter how great the fun)are not the same.



@people who are active swingers: Please don't involve children in your sick worlds. Believe in your lies if you want so. Thats what you do ! Or why don't you give your daughter a good night kiss and tell her : " Hey mommy and daddy just came back from an orgy. Yes , daddy shares mommy with other men and allows them to treat her like the sick whore that she likes to be, because daddy is a sick pervert himself and also a slave to his dick. WHen you grow up I want you to be just as sick-minded as your stranger cock-sucking-mommy. Wait till she wipes that sperm from our new neighbour jack , she'll kiss yah good night too. ! "

Sick isn't it. No swinger would ever tell this to their children ?!?!?! But it would be the truth !!!!!! Of course its easier not to admit that you are perverted and lost respect for your wife/husband. Tell yourself another lie and life is fine again. Guess what its not , in reality its pathetic. Ifeel sad for children who have swinger parents as rolemodels ! Fuckin sick perverted world.
 
tbirdy said:
I lost the energy to explain things to people I don't care about. I developed a hate for the stupid masses.

Definitely agree with that statement. Was thinking the exact same thing just before I read it.

You both have ALOT to learn.

Good Luck.
 
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jakb,

dude your simple request for info has brought the crazies out of the woodwork...lol

Anyways as far as your threesome goes...I cannot comment on the swinger lifestyle and going online to find a girl for the threesome...

I'd recommend that you go out with your girl to actually pick up a partner together...there is something magical about the thrill of the hunt and if you guys are comfortable enough to go out together you'll find out how much fun it is. Now you can find a bi-girl anywhere in a regular bar or a club...or you can always go to a lesbian type of bar with your girl and scope the place out to see if there are any girls there that you like...the key is that if you want a threesome the best way to go about it is to start out with a girl that wants one too so you are fine--more than halfway there.

Part of the process is just teaching your girl about how to talk to other girls in a way that will turn them on...impart some of your gamesmanship to your girl dude...and go out and pick up a girl together...its easier to pick up another chick when you already have one and if your girl and you are attractive it will be even easier.

Those are the big picture suggestions...if you want more details and specifics try out www.fastseduction.com the site is ok...don't get too bogged down in there because plenty of the people that post there are clueless but if you search the archives you should find some gems...

Good luck and let us know how it goes....and oh yeah don't leave out any of the lurid details any questions ask away :cool:
 
After reading all of the threads on this makes me wonder how a bunch of dudes would argue over whats right and wrong with having threesome... It's every man's dream come true... but then when you think about it, there could be lingering issues as a result of it, particularly with your girl.. Can't speak for you since I dont know you, your girl or how strong your relationship is. But on one side of the issue I say go for it, but on the other hand "pause".

Playing the devils advocate (hate that term) suppose your girl is just testing you to see how far you'll go? Suppose she is using this as an alternative means of telling you she Bi-sexual? Suppose she is using this as a means of telling you she wants to fuck two men? Or hiding an affair and wants to slowly introduce you to him or her as the next member of your threesome? When women ask you about threesome, it's always Suspect! But then there are those who are just simply freaks and those who want their man to experience every man's fantasy and are secure enough to do it.

Therefore I say if you have strong feelings for her and are madly in love you need to ask yourself those questions and be certain that it's not the case or else you may end up a wounded Pup. But if it's not the case and she just wants to get Freaky.... Go for it! and if you are not madly inlove with her and it turns out to be one of the scenerio's above, Fuck it! You can always find another girl... Fuck em and them leave em!

Then you can roll with the big Dawgs!
 
I'm thinking a threesome would be cool as hell, but I don't think I could do it with someone I cared about. I just don't think I could separate the sex from love enough to ever do something like that, personally. It works for some people. I have a friend that married a Ukrainian girl and she has no problem with it, because I guess bisexuality for women is a little more accepted there and she was comfortable with bisexuality before she met this guy. She found it perfectly natural to share him. This was when they were living in Kiev, but I don't believe they have had such adventures since he brought her here.

Personally, I would love to find a couple of girls that are kinda into that thing and give it a go. Another thing on the "list of things to do" that will likely never get done. I have never been in love, may never be in love, so I can't really relate the sex thing to love, having never felt it.

Do I think it is immoral? Yeah, I suppose so. My religious upbringing left we with a number of strong moral beliefs, though I am not a religious person at this point in my life. Yet, I have done a number of immoral things in my life, some within the past week. Personally, I would classify premarital sex as "immoral", but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do it right now, provided I had interest in the willing participant. In fact, I'll probably have another venture with it in a couple weeks. It's not something I ever really intend to brag about to any future children I might have, as I do think it does not set the example I would ideally like them to live. Plus, there are my politicial ambitions, which make me watch everything I do. So, I guess I view such activities in a negative light, but ultimately say "So what?" when it comes to my own fulfillment. I don't think this makes me hypocritical, having explained my views.

While I do believe that God himself frowns upon such activities as those proposed by jakb and sikkdogg, I'm not going to spend my time condemning them when such things appear to work for THEIR particular relationships, especially for sikkdogg who has been married for many years. To me, it's their business and, at the end of the day, they seem like good people.
 
Reading MCTFB's first post and the others I strongly agree with what he says, he speaks a lot of truth here, particualry the first post which makes a lot of good points.
 
So have you found a chick yet? Be sure to get a pic if you do. :)

I know a threesome is a lot of guy's fantasies, but I don't know if I could do it. I love my g/f a lot and don't know if I would be upset or not if she was attracted to girls. I could do a threesome if I wasn't in love, but I am. I don't think I could.

Then maybe I get talked into that threesome and later down the road, she's all sexed out and wants another threesome, but with a guy. Now that would piss me the fuck off and destroy our relationship.
 
Murder is wrong because you are hurting others, alot. You are depriving the person you kill of his/her life and its experiences, not to mention his/her family friends.

Threesome is not hurting anyone, unless you chose to believe it's wrong or a sin. Sure there can be complications with jelousy and such, but thats no wonder since sexual acts usually involve high intensity emotions.

Threesomes might be sins for many people, but this has imo to do with religious values, emotions, insecurities and the way humans use to bond with only one mate. But if you can rise above this and all 3 are confident in what they are doing, I see nothing wrong in the act.


Can't for the life of me see how pleasure can be a sin. Not saying life should only be pleasures, it just sound to me like a mild form of fundamentalism to me, trying to squeeze everything within a small box.
 
Stuff_ said:
Nice post MCTFB. Also having a threesome is cheating, it's just that both people in the relationship are willingly cheating on each other out in the open.

true
 
TheExecutioner said:
Reading MCTFB's first post and the others I strongly agree with what he says, he speaks a lot of truth here, particualry the first post which makes a lot of good points.
i agree with him as well. i'm totally not up for the threesome idea. in my opinion, i think it's disrespectful. i love zack too much to share or give him up to trash like that.
 
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