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ive recently started to edge to improve my staying power, ive been edging for an hour then bustin a nut after. whats just happend has confused me, when i've been edging i watch ���� and just wank until i can feel the cummin sensation start then i hold either a strong kegel or reverse kegel i'm quite new to this so i'm trying different techniques to find what works best i cant really tell the difference, i find they both have the same affect :/ also i squeeze either the base of the shaft or squeeze just under the glans, again i'm just expirimenting atm but both seem like they have the same effect tbh. I was coming up to around the 45 minute mark and i felt like i was going to cum at any moment but this time i thought i went a little to far and was at the ponr, i squeezed the shaft and held a very hard reverse kegel i felt a couple small spasms in the base and the feeling of the orgasm went away but i did ejaculate a little, after this i was still hard not fully hard but definaltley hard enough to carry on which i did and it felt like i was now able to wank like i've just started all over again my balls were aching a little like they were full but actually i was less turned on and really had to get myself in the mood again with the ����, so i assumed that this was my first multi orgasm expirience i was really happy i achieved this but about 15 minutes later i decided to actually let go this time so i thought i was about to unleash a massive load but i had the orgasm feeling but hardly anything came out just a couple drops tbh so i i'm just confused why nothing came out the 2nd time :/ i went back to being flaccid but my balls are still aching a little nothing uncomfortable or anything just feel a little full lol any ideas or comments bros?.
 
This happens as you are learning the process where the second orgasm is not as intense as the first would have been. Over time you will get to the point where the first orgasm causes no spasms because you will catch it before it happens. When you become proficient you should be able to do this as many times as you like but it will take more practice in the sequence of kegels and reverse kegels. For me it was the same in the beginning, I would go to the PONR and end up having a few spasms but the erection would remain with a little loss of eq. As time went on I eventually got to the point that I was able to stop it just before the spasms and the orgasm would cease and I would be left with a full erection. This is the best technique to master as it will make you a master in bed. It also works in the way that once mastered you will be able to cum on command. It is all worth the time and effort.
 
that makes sense thanks DLD i appreciate your advice :) im going to keep practing this every 2 or 3 days until i can master it and get to the point which you mentioned about doing this as many times as i want :) that wud be awsome i can definatley understand and believe it works because after this happend to me 2night even tho i went a little to far and had the spasms i was still erect with less eq exaclty how youve just described but the thought of actually cumming was a long way away, i actually had to work at it the 2nd time. I have read another post by you about reverse psychology which made sense to me because ive had times when ive been having sex while being drunk and its been well over an hour and i just keep thinking to myself "come on cum now" and i was trying so hard to cum that it just made it impossible lol kind of ironic lol so when im edging i try and conivice myself and think like i want to cum, then after ive reached the hour i then start thinkin and trying not to cum to have the opposite effect. its hard to trick your mind into this because you know your trying to trick yourself lol but i think with practice and gettin the technique perfected it can be done. ive noticed that when edging as soon as the i get the sort of tingley feeling like cumming is a few minutes away i do a strong kegel for about 3 secs while still masturbating then realease the kegel and it seems to delay the feeling a for a little bit, then i keep repeating this until i get to the point where doing this doesnt make a difference, if i carry on masturbating im cummin regardless so then i switch just before the ponr to a strong reverse kegel which is how i managed to ejaculate but still have erection after. is this the correct way to use the kegel and reverse kegel mate? the reason i ask is like i mentioned in the previous post it seems to me that if i k or rk they seem to have the same effect, i cant really feel if one is helping me prolong cummming and the other is pushin me close to cummin they both seem to have the same outcome so whhich one should i be using to prolong? thanks again buddy your a star :p
 
Aaaah, nothing like trying to see what works for you! I have the same- I RK and I cum a little, but remain hard (not at 100% though) and can go on. I still need to practice it more as I've not mastered it yet. But soon enough!

I did not get the reverse psychology thingy- can you explain it again? Also- take a look at the Pre-E thread in my sig- it sure took me some time and effort to finish it, I think it is a good read! :)
 
exactly zam you just guna try stuff out n see what works for you ay :)

yeah its still good tho init, to be able to carry on after i was over the moon lol im sure you will master it soon buddy you are obviously very knowledgeable and have the right attitude, i always enjoy reading your posts, very funny and your advice and help is tip top.

yeah course i can explain it again no problems, ive noticed when im having sex that if im feeling a bit anxious and i start worrying about cumming to early i keep thinking about not cumming n trying to stop it, but i think this has the opposite effect and actually makes me cum quicker.
Ive had sex plenty or times when ive been drunk and i can definitely last longer i spose cause my confidence levels are up and i'm less anxious, after having sex for a while i then want to finish so i start thinking about cumming and trying to finish which then makes it hard for me to cum again having the opposite effect.

it seems to me like concentrating on not cumming makes me cum, concentrating on cumming makes me not cum lol.

so its sort of reverse psychology so im trying to apply the same concept when i edge, i always edge for an hour then after the hour i bust so for the first hour i try to think or convince myself to cum so i dont cum, then after the hour i think or try to convince myself not to cum so i do cum LMAO i know that sounds crazy but im just trying to apply the reverse psychology effect that i encounter during sex.

i hope that makes sense and ive explained it properly to you mate.
 
grow4me;620237 said:
exactly zam you just guna try stuff out n see what works for you ay :)

yeah its still good tho init, to be able to carry on after i was over the moon lol im sure you will master it soon buddy you are obviously very knowledgeable and have the right attitude, i always enjoy reading your posts, very funny and your advice and help is tip top.

yeah course i can explain it again no problems, ive noticed when im having sex that if im feeling a bit anxious and i start worrying about cumming to early i keep thinking about not cumming n trying to stop it, but i think this has the opposite effect and actually makes me cum quicker.
Ive had sex plenty or times when ive been drunk and i can definitely last longer i spose cause my confidence levels are up and i'm less anxious, after having sex for a while i then want to finish so i start thinking about cumming and trying to finish which then makes it hard for me to cum again having the opposite effect.

it seems to me like concentrating on not cumming makes me cum, concentrating on cumming makes me not cum lol.

so its sort of reverse psychology so im trying to apply the same concept when i edge, i always edge for an hour then after the hour i bust so for the first hour i try to think or convince myself to cum so i dont cum, then after the hour i think or try to convince myself not to cum so i do cum LMAO i know that sounds crazy but im just trying to apply the reverse psychology effect that i encounter during sex.

i hope that makes sense and ive explained it properly to you mate.

Thank you for the kind post, it really touched me! I am happy to see I am helpful to someone (and I just love making people smine!) :)

The explanation was great, I think I got it- take a look at this thread ( http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...5-kiss-the-premature-ejaculation-goodbye.html ). This is a thread I wrote on how to last longer, sadly it did not gain popularity- such a shame as I put a lot of work into it...

2- Mental relaxation- Some men like to use the “think about something else” method. Like bodybuilding, cars etc. This technique has a few downfalls. It takes yours and your girl’s pleasure away. If the girl knows that you think about math more than you think about her while making love/having sex, it could be a big turn off. One more reason why this technique is not so good is that avoiding thinking about something makes you think about it even more. The human brain cannot process negative thoughts. If you tell yourself not to think about the color red, it will immediately pop into your head as an image. Your brain must know what you told it not to think about. If on the other hand you think about blue, blue and blue only will be in your head, leading to no images of the color red popping in your head. This is why all “don’t think about that” techniques do not work and put further pressure on your brain. Therefore, what you should concentrate on is relaxation. Let me give you an example: as you are having sex and feel that you are above 7, the mentality you should have is “I need to relax and drop to 7” and not “I must not hit the 10”.

This is another reason why you must do meditation. It will not only get you used to be physically and mentally relaxed, but will also get all that stress out of your body, which is a must for better health and well being. 30 minute everyday sessions will help you concentrate on your relaxation (you can go for less, we are all busy, but do not let that to be an excuse). Do not forget, meditation is not some kind of fancy position you are into and some kind of trance you are into. Meditation is a state of the mind, not the body.

The above is a specific quote of mine from the thread I gave you a link to- it is what I believe is relevant to this topic now. Take a good read, hope you enjoy it! :)
 
no worries mate you do alot of good on this forum and your not just helpful to me your helpful to alot of us. :)

yeah i will read it as soon as ive wrote this message.

the think about something else method doesnt work for me for the exact reasons that youve said your just putting more pressure on your brain to not think about something thats making you think about it hahaha your spot on in what you have said above.

that sounds interesting the only thing ive really been tryin is to keep taking slow deep breaths to try and stay relaxed and not get too excitied by controlling my breathing but its very difficult lol how would i start on mediatation? this is litterally the first time ive ever even thought about meditation so im clueless, the thought has never occured to me until you've just mentioned it so thanks mate. Am i right in thinking that you can get used to getting your brain into a relaxed state by meditating then use the same technique during sex?

i will read your thread now :)
 
grow4me;620251 said:
no worries mate you do alot of good on this forum and your not just helpful to me your helpful to alot of us. :)

yeah i will read it as soon as ive wrote this message.

the think about something else method doesnt work for me for the exact reasons that youve said your just putting more pressure on your brain to not think about something thats making you think about it hahaha your spot on in what you have said above.

that sounds interesting the only thing ive really been tryin is to keep taking slow deep breaths to try and stay relaxed and not get too excitied by controlling my breathing but its very difficult lol how would i start on mediatation? this is litterally the first time ive ever even thought about meditation so im clueless, the thought has never occured to me until you've just mentioned it so thanks mate. Am i right in thinking that you can get used to getting your brain into a relaxed state by meditating then use the same technique during sex?

i will read your thread now :)

Well, after reading it you should have an answer to your questions above LMAO! :)
 
Zambrodom3;620219 said:
I did not get the reverse psychology thingy- can you explain it again?

This is a great way to avoid orgasm. Reverse psychology would be saying to yourself "I am going to cum too quickly" over and over until the thought becomes useless and the opposite sets in. This is one of the techniques from the members site.
 
is it ok to ejaculate after each edging session? or am i meant to bring my self to the ponr 2 or 3 times then stop edging and thats the session over? im not sure whats best for building stamina
 
grow4me;620577 said:
is it ok to ejaculate after each edging session? or am i meant to bring my self to the ponr 2 or 3 times then stop edging and thats the session over? im not sure whats best for building stamina

After you practice for a while I think it is important to let one off. A lot of pressure is happening during the edging process and releasing this after a good session is smart in my opinion. If I don't I end up getting serious aching in my scrotum. If you are worried about turtling I suggest using Uncle Jims Wrapping Technique after to keep you stretched out. Or what I do is a good 10-15 minute session of manual stretching or wear the SizeGenetics for a set or two.
 
doublelongdaddy;620719 said:
After you practice for a while I think it is important to let one off. A lot of pressure is happening during the edging process and releasing this after a good session is smart in my opinion. If I don't I end up getting serious aching in my scrotum. If you are worried about turtling I suggest using Uncle Jims Wrapping Technique after to keep you stretched out. Or what I do is a good 10-15 minute session of manual stretching or wear the SizeGenetics for a set or two.

Eventually you'll just end up having a wet dream when semen build up too much
 
lightlyfried;687129 said:
Eventually you'll just end up having a wet dream when semen build up too much

That would be the natural response to not having an orgasm for a long period of time.
 
doublelongdaddy;687182 said:
That would be the natural response to not having an orgasm for a long period of time.

I get them from time to time ( on no fap) but lately I have been ejaculating tiny amounts when edging, no idea what's cause that!
 
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