I know, I'll maybe buy a thinner penis pump to work on length over summer time as I have to many other things to sort out, or maybe I'll risk getting girth before length by using bathmate for 6 months then look at hanging, ADS then thinner penis pump cylinder to work length and keep gains from bathmate, I'd buy cylinder that matches my erect girth though so muscle tissue doesn't get ripped from out of micro tears that is healing.