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As many of you know, DHT has been used topically for growth. One of the new designer steroids on the block is Methyl 5aa, an extremely androgenic, long lasting steroid. I was wondering if this steroid used in conjunction with an intense jelquing routing might produce accelerated growth. I'm a little hesitant to just try it because these methylated steroids are very hepatoxic.
Any opinions from the bodybuilders//chemists out there??? Here's a link to a good description of the product. There are cheaper versions out there, this one just has a nice writeup.

Methyl 5AA 100 Tablets/10 mg $26.99



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Another methylated version of an older prohormone, methyl 5AA should be a similar match to Proviron or Masteron. This compound will make a conversion to Methyl-DHT in the liver through the 3bHSD enzyme. It should be very well suited as a preworkout stimulant, as well as reducing the effects of estrogen and SHBG on a cycle. Since DHT acts as an aromatize inhibitor, it can help reduce circulating estrogen on a cycle in lieu of typical anti-estrogens such as Nolvadex. Oral DHT has also been shown to bind to SHBG, allowing for more of other more powerful androgens to attach to the receptor, allowing for an overall more anabolic effect.

One problem with DHT and its precursors is the fact that they are deactivated in skeletal muscle through the 3 alpha HD enzyme to prohormones like 5AA and 3 alpha. This seems to happen when an abundance of androgens exist, and is why DHT, even more potent than testosterone, does not make for a great muscle builder. Another concern for its users is the strong androgenic effects of DHT. This would obviously be a concern with individuals with potential prostate issues or androgenic alopecia. However, since this prohormone is making a conversion in the liver, instead of high 5AR saturated areas like the scalp and prostate, it would probably not have as many negative side effects as even typical 4AD/testosterone would.

The dosage seems to be in the low range. Anywhere from 5-30mg anytime of day would work. It sounds like it would be particularly beneficial preworkout, where it would impart some of the positive benefits on neural activity, giving the user added aggression, energy and strength to have a better workout. As with all methylated compounds, similar precaution should be taken of not running the compound for more than 6 weeks and having blood work done to ensure the liver is in proper working function.


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Androgenic, that is bitchtits and such huh? Seems a little interesting, if you just use a de-androgenic supplement with it, it cna be bought online in nature/herb shops.
 
No, I don't think gyno is a concern with something like this.. Androgenic is assosciated with thickening of beard, deepening voice, and enlargement of penis. Concerns would be prostate enlargement and hair loss with something like this. They go on to say that it is less of an issue with the methylated one. It's a little scary, but no scarier than putting topical DHT on your penis IMO

Stalyn
 
GhosT_DoGG said:
Androgenic, that is bitchtits and such huh? Seems a little interesting, if you just use a de-androgenic supplement with it, it cna be bought online in nature/herb shops.

Gyno (bitchtits) is not an issue with this substance, in fact it is a aromatize inhibitor so it can actually be used to minimize the effects of estrogen (to prevent gyno).

I thinks that it may help with Penis Enlargement due to its strong androgenic properties, but the real concerns are hairloss, enlarged prostrate, and liver issues. Thru experience with different PH's and gear, i know for a fact that i'm not prone to hair loss, but i am to benign prostrate hypertrophy (enlarged prostrate). This and the liver hepatoxicity (from the 17-AA methylation) would be my most serious concerns. I suggest that anyone thinking of trying PH's should read up on it before jumping in. Taking PH IS taking steroids because PH are converted to a target steroid via a liver enzyme.
 
italynstalyn said:
... However, since this prohormone is making a conversion in the liver, instead of high 5AR saturated areas like the scalp and prostate, it would probably not have as many negative side effects as even typical 4AD/testosterone would...

I would disagree with this statement... it is irrelevent where the conversin to DHT takes place. Areas of the body like the scalp and prostrate (areas of high 5AR) have an affinity for DHT, so as the DHT levels in the body increases they will tend to bind the these areas most.
 
search on google for dht and see the horrible side effects it causes.. It doesnt enlarge the penis testosterone does... You can search for testosterone penis size on gooogle
 
I was aware the test helps with Penis Enlargement, but also thought that DHT may also due to its strong androgenic properties (test is also androgenic). I know a few guys on a differnet board claiming good results with androjel (a dermal testosterone cream used for HRT). I planned on making my own dermal using test base and either T-Gel or PLOgel, but haven't had the time.

Hey Shism2, how long have you been Penis Enlargement'ing?? We have the same stats and similar goals...
 
I am not a big fan of PH. People take them thinking they are some how "safer" than the real thing. But very little research is done on these compounds and not much is know, in fact it isnt known wether or not it even works. For me I stick with the real thing. I mean in the right amount and proper Dr. suppervission you get all the pluses and very little of the side effects. I am very interested in DHT cream, for masculization and Penis Enlargement.... I am looking into it now. Rember too that anything ingested has a prononuced effect on the liver. Thats why i like the needle or the cream stuff. why risk hurting your self if you don't have too...
 
Bro, PH's do in fact work and work well. Most are not as effective as steroids but some are damn near close especially methyl-1-test and M4OHN. I also prefer pinning the real thing over PH, but i understand people doing PH. It's a way for them to experience mild to good anabolic (steroid) effects without having to inject. I've also been toying around with the idea of using PGF2A for Penis Enlargement...
 
like 3 months but i just started seriously last month.. I havent gained any length tho :(
 
I decided to give this method a try. I got some Masterdrol off of ebay pretty cheap. I plan on using it for a quick 1wk. cycle. Mostly to see if I am prone to any sides, and to limit suppression. I'll then do 2 wks. PCT, and evaluate the benefits. If it works, I'll try a more agressive cycle. My plan is
a very modest 10mg./day, and I'll to "2 a days". Length work at night, and girth work in the morning, and wearing a c-ring all day to maintain maximum engorgement at all times. Two days in, and I've had 4 phenomenal workouts, and my pump has been fantastic all day. Probably placebo, but excellent nonetheless. The true test will be what remains after 2 wks. PCT. I'll post again at the end of the week.

Stalyn
 
This all sounds interesting.
Its outta my depth I must admit, but I'll add that IMHO DHT will help in Penis Enlargement to get a larger penis.
 
I've never take PH, but I've read a ton on the boards, and I know a good bit about what to expect in terms of muscular development. Not sure what will happen with respect to Penis Enlargement. I probably won't see much from this initial, light cycle, but hopefully I'll see something encouraging, and I'll push it a little more next round.

Stalyn
 
Here's an update. I did 10mg./day from Sun. thru Wed., and had awesome Penis Enlargement workouts, awsome gym workouts, and a plump fatty hanging all day, all with no side effects. So, like a moron I decided to bump it to 20mgs. on Thursday. I had major agression, and my nipples started to get puffy. I know
gyno isn't supposed to be an issue with this stuff, but I got gyno during
puberty, so I know what it is like, so I erred on the safe side and ended it there. I'm on PCT now, and I might have 1/8th x 1/8th gain. We'll see if it sticks around. I'll probably try another week at 10mg./day in about a month.
All in all, my reaction is positive, but this IS potent stuff that is not to be taken lightly.

Stalyn
 
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