Low Carb Atkins Diet

I agree with you completely randolf.

EVERYTHING we see, adverts for diets, diet supplements, government health guidelines, nearly every single thing we see that advocates a healthy diet in the media and advertising,.....the wording used 99.9 % of the time is WEIGHT LOSS.

Hardly ever is it described as FAT loss.

And they wonder why so many of the population is so uninformed when it comes to having a healthy lifestyle.

Fat in itself is much harder to shift than actual weight. You need some sort of strategy.

Most people are taught that if you restrict your calories you lose weight....And they think it's as simple as that and the problem is solved.
As though that's all you need to know to be healthy.

I've spoken to people who when the issue of dieting springs up, they talk about dieting exclusively to lose WEIGHT. As though weight is more important to lose than fat.
They aspire to look like a famous singer or actor who they admire the look of, and they really think that just losing WEIGHT is the route to take to get a great body.
I think it's the minority who understand that just losing weight isn't the answer to getting a shape they want.

Even with women, muscle goes a long way to define what shape you are.

You see many people who lose a load of weight after a diet,.....but they don't necessarily have the body of their dreams, they just look skinny. They don't necessarily look great from being thin.
You need to exercise in some way to get a good healthy body.

If I just lost 2 stone of weight, I think I would look worse than what I do now.
There can be a dramatic difference in the way a body would look from just losing a lot of weight fast, and a body that has lost fat gradually due to good diet and exercise.

I think our societies are obsessed with losing WEIGHT. It's as though many people think of it mainly for reasons of vanity, and ignore what that actually means.
I don't think it's necessarily about our cultures just being lazy about their bodies. I think it's more to do with society being ignorant about what really needs to be done. They just assume that eating less is the answer, and don't educate themselves further.
They just accept too readily what the soundbites coming from the media tell them without researching things for themselves. If they are told 99% of the time by their televisions that they just need to eat less calories, that's exactly what they'll do. If they don't look around for more information they'll be none the wiser.
I'm sure that many people think that you only have to diet down to get a body like Brad Pitt.
It just won't happen unless people realise that they have to focus on fat loss and not just weight loss.

Mercury said:

I agree with you completely randolf.

EVERYTHING we see, adverts for diets, diet supplements, government health guidelines, nearly every single thing we see that advocates a healthy diet in the media and advertising,.....the wording used 99.9 % of the time is WEIGHT LOSS.

Hardly ever is it described as FAT loss.

And they wonder why so many of the population is so uninformed when it comes to having a healthy lifestyle.

Fat in itself is much harder to shift than actual weight. You need some sort of strategy.

Most people are taught that if you restrict your calories you lose weight....And they think it's as simple as that and the problem is solved.
As though that's all you need to know to be healthy.

I've spoken to people who when the issue of dieting springs up, they talk about dieting exclusively to lose WEIGHT. As though weight is more important to lose than fat.
They aspire to look like a famous singer or actor who they admire the look of, and they really think that just losing WEIGHT is the route to take to get a great body.
I think it's the minority who understand that just losing weight isn't the answer to getting a shape they want.

Even with women, muscle goes a long way to define what shape you are.

You see many people who lose a load of weight after a diet,.....but they don't necessarily have the body of their dreams, they just look skinny. They don't necessarily look great from being thin.
You need to exercise in some way to get a good healthy body.

If I just lost 2 stone of weight, I think I would look worse than what I do now.
There can be a dramatic difference in the way a body would look from just losing a lot of weight fast, and a body that has lost fat gradually due to good diet and exercise.

I think our societies are obsessed with losing WEIGHT. It's as though many people think of it mainly for reasons of vanity, and ignore what that actually means.
I don't think it's necessarily about our cultures just being lazy about their bodies. I think it's more to do with society being ignorant about what really needs to be done. They just assume that eating less is the answer, and don't educate themselves further.
They just accept too readily what the soundbites coming from the media tell them without researching things for themselves. If they are told 99% of the time by their televisions that they just need to eat less calories, that's exactly what they'll do. If they don't look around for more information they'll be none the wiser.
I'm sure that many people think that you only have to diet down to get a body like Brad Pitt.
It just won't happen unless people realise that they have to focus on fat loss and not just weight loss.

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Yep its scary how powerful the repetitive sound bites in the media are on most people. Like my friend at the gym I was making big gains and getting compliments for how buff I was. I told him exactly what I was doing and how. And btw it was like the fourth iteration of diet I was on, each learning more and more.

I was eating a good amount of fat, because fat is so healthy for you. I was watching my sugar intake, but sometimes binging on it too. Anyway I clearly knew 100 times more then my friend, and the other guys at the gym were doing this kind of thing too. It was a hardcore gym.

Yet everytime he mentioned diet and himself he would be desperately trying to cut out fat. Nothing even in the face of blatant evidence could shock him out of the paradigm of accepted societal thinking.

That is why Penis Enlargement will never in a million years be mainstream. Most people will buy the tv lines, and they will never endorse it.

My father too, he is a professional engineer with many many books on diet. He has read tons and we have talked about the difference between fat and weight many times before. Yet everytime he feels self concious he immediately makes a low calorie diet and says he is going to lose weight.

99% of people are just incapable of having their paradigms changed. You realize after the first time they understand the scientific information yet still go back to the old thinking, its pointless to convince. People want the easy answer.

And you are so 100% right about the brad pitt observation. I thought this too when I was 16. I had put on some fat and I went on mass aerobics and dieting to get back to my former super lean self. After a few weeks I was very tired and was losing muscle. Then after a month or so I was feeling the fat and there was more yet I weighed less. At that point I changed to different strategies. Well actualy I gave up for a while first but hey.

Its amazing to me that people can continue to keep doing the same thing which is actualy being detrimental their whole lives and not try something else. Their belief and trust in what the authorities tell them is so strong.

I think I might have an advantage that I have always distrusted authority. Whether it is the media, or the pastor or the government minister of whatever. I assume they are lying for their own purposes.

And here is a revolutionary step most people dont' think of yet it is so obvious. Find someone at the gym who looks like Brad Pitt. And ask him what he eats, how many times a week he plays sports, what his workout is.

People will tell you everything they have spent so long learning, they love it when someone acknowledges their level of understanding.

Women are the worst to fall victim to the authority message. I dont' really know why but women are more susceptable to bow to authority. I think its probably a dominance thing. Women who cut calories generally turn into tired, flabbier and smaller versions of their old selves. And since they have less muscle that is burning calories off, when they eventualy succumb to their hunger drives they put on massive amounts of pure fat quickly.

Which then makes them more self-concious and restrict fat and calories more, leading to further muscle loss. It is a viscious cycle. Women are scared of getting too bulky which is idiotic. The hottest women I've seen ever hit the weights hard. Doing tons of big leg lifts and so on. They get sexily strong but they dont' hulk out, because they simply don't have the hormonal makeup to do it.

randolf said:

The hottest women I've seen ever hit the weights hard. Doing tons of big leg lifts and so on. They get sexily strong but they dont' hulk out, because they simply don't have the hormonal makeup to do it.

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Like this chick?

muscles on chicks turn me off- like the chick above in the photo

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Like this chick?

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Ya that is likely some level of steroids she has taken. Or cutting hormones for a competition. They try to scare women away from gyms with pictures of hulked out steroided women. But all those women you see at extremes of muscle are taking exogeneous hormones.

Its like me saying too much sugar is bad, and having some transvestive who has breasts from female hormone therapy, as an example.

When women get that low on bodyfat they stop menstrating. At about 21% bodyfat is the lowest women can go and still menstrate.

Its impossible for them to do it without complete starvation, and even then their body will slow down their metabolism and feed off their muscles first.

Trust me the hottest chicks you have ever seen, are my cousin and his friends girlfriends. They are goddesses, and they all worked out with heavy weights. Of course they were mainly going lower body training but still they had great toned arms.

The Atkins Diet is considered a "fad" diet because of the way it's "sold" to the public.

It's actually a very good diet. Modified versions of it are by far the best diets for fat loss. I've lost over 20 lbs. on the Atkins diet a few years ago and I never gained it back, even after going back to "normal" eating.

I haven't done it lately even though I should. The thing is is that it's so damn hard to stick to. When you're starvin' at 3am, you can't exactly find a piece of meat to eat... but there's plenty of donuts around.

It's so ironic that the whole Atkins thing is really taking off now that Dr. Atkins himself is DEAD. I predict that America will get even fatter now with this new trend, mostly because most people are fucking stupid and should be killed.

But ketogenic diets are the best diets, hands down.

You can even cycle this diet. Do it for three or four days, then "carb up" for a day. Make sure you lift weights too. I wouldn't recommend doing aerobics on a low/no carb diet... that may result in choking someone to death.

Can anybody tell me what a good objective would be to aim for?

What I mean is that we know that losing say X number of pounds a week doesn't mean a lot in real terms.
So, what is a realistic amount of inches to lose from your waistline in a given number of weeks?

I never hear the question put like that, but that is what I am more interested in rather than simply weight lost.

For example, is a 2 inch decrease from your waistline every week something to aim for, or can you lose more?

Without bothering to read everything, let me just say that its bad for you, plain and simple. Sure, you'll lose weight while on it, but you'll wreck your metabolism, and most likely clog your arteries. Not good for Penis Enlargement.