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It is by me. It fucking sucks. The dude at this corner store by me told me that the city will slap him with a whopping $300 fine if he is caught selling ephedrine-containing products. Now that's $300 per unit. That means if he has 4 bottles of say, Stacker2 on his shelves, he gets fined $1,200!!

Pure ephedrine (Dymetadrine 25) has been banned for years already (that stuff was the SHIT), but now they're after anything and everything containing ephedrine... even ephedrine in it's wussy "herbal" form and mixed with other bullshit is now illegal.

Great. That really made sense.

More people die each year from eating fucking aspirin, yet they ban ephedrine?!

How about wherever it is you live? You don't have to divulge your whereabouts, just tell me yes or no: is ephedrine banned where you live?

Is it legal to order it from somewhere?

Does anyone know of anything similar that can be used as an alternative? Is there any other plant or chemical that does what ephedrine does within the body?

Pure ephedrine is supposed to do cool magical stuff within your body's fat cells... aiding in the burning of fat or something. I read a book on it once, but I don't remember much of the details.
 
Not sure if it illegal, but I can't find it anywhere. A lot of that is because a lot of companies don't even make it anymore. They have these weak ass ephedrine free products.

I live near Baltimore, so all I have to say about it is: It Steve Bechler's own damn fault he died, NOT Xenedrine's.
 
It seems that everyone has stopped making it. I think there are only a few states/cities that have actually banned ephedrine, but most stores such as GNC, Vitamin World, etc. have stopped carrying these products, like due to our emergining litigation economy and their fear of ending up on the wrong side.

Luckily, I managed to buy six bottles of original formula Trim Spa from ebay recently. This should be a big help in 2004. I have never heard of anyone dying from this shit that did not abuse it. Hell, I worked with a guy that was taking 8 times the recommended dosage and he reported no side effects. The point is that these guys that drop dead must really abuse the stuff in a big way. I would suggest you search ebay for ephedrine products. If you're lucky, someone will sell it to you without knowing it's illegal to do so.
 
I was watching ESPN earlier today and it seems that the Bush administration is going to ban ephedrine early next year.
 
I hope they ban tylenol next. That shit is dangerous.

BTW, Tommy Thompson is an ass. His brother Ed is cool though.
 
i think some baseball player died when taking ephedrine, that's why its banned. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard though, one baseball player dies, and noone else can die like him, although in reality its not that dangerous, unlesss you're seriously overdosing like he was or something. I say let all drugs be legal (pot, crack too) and just let every messed up person who are going to abuse the drug die, so we won't have to worry about drug abuse anymore
 
Originally posted by fallen_one23
i think some baseball player died when taking ephedrine, that's why its banned. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard though, one baseball player dies, and noone else can die like him, although in reality its not that dangerous, unlesss you're seriously overdosing like he was or something. I say let all drugs be legal (pot, crack too) and just let every messed up person who are going to abuse the drug die, so we won't have to worry about drug abuse anymore

Yeah, and he was overweight, seriously out of shape, took too many, and was probably dehydrated.
 
Originally posted by bigbutnottoo
Yeah, and he was overweight, seriously out of shape, took too many, and was probably dehydrated.

I heard he took like 8 or 10 pills. The directions clearly say one or two, depending on product. Taking 5-10x the dosage? Charles Darwin would call that natural selection.
 
Originally posted by wubeats
I was watching ESPN earlier today and it seems that the Bush administration is going to ban ephedrine early next year.

And to think I was voting for less government intrusion in my life. >:(

I figured this stuff would eventually be restricted, but I didn't think it would come from Tommy Thompson. Well, the FDA was very instrumental in the decision too and the FDA is known to be loaded with career bureaucrats that want to deny us as much as is possible.
 
Wonder what the odds are of making it available by prescription, in the future? It surely involves less risk than liposuction, gastric bypass and many other procedures.
 
This issue made me lose a lot of respect for Fox News also. I am usually defending them,but their whole coverage and interviews have been completely biased.
 
Originally posted by penguinsfan
I heard he took like 8 or 10 pills. The directions clearly say one or two, depending on product. Taking 5-10x the dosage? Charles Darwin would call that natural selection.

LOL, I couldn't agree more penguinsfan. If people aren't intelligent enough to read and follow simple instructions such as "do not exceed recommended doseage" their breating rights should be revoked. I don't want these people contaminating the air that I have to breath with their ignorance and possibly making me dumber in that process...We should round them all up, put them on a wooden barge made of drift wood, send them out to see and let the Navy use them for torpedo target practice.
 
Originally posted by oopapercutoo
LOL, I couldn't agree more penguinsfan. If people aren't intelligent enough to read and follow simple instructions such as "do not exceed recommended doseage" their breating rights should be revoked. I don't want these people contaminating the air that I have to breath with their ignorance and possibly making me dumber in that process...We should round them all up, put them on a wooden barge made of drift wood, send them out to see and let the Navy use them for torpedo target practice.

Well, I disagree. Think we missed the point here guys.

Someone can take 100 times the dosage if he wants to. He just cannot hold anyone else responsible for results of his actions.
 
That's basically what me and penguinsfan were saying...just not quite as eloquently put as you stated it. It's impossible for the government to hold everyone's hand and make sure that they follow clearly labeled instructions on a product. If someone is stupid enough to overdose on an ECA stack, it's their own damn fault. That's no reason for the rest of us to have to suffer however... Banning all products containing ephedrine is ridiculous. The drug has undeniable benefits when it comes to fat loss. Let those of us who are mature enough to follow directions continue using these products, and those of us who aren't mature enough suffer the consequences of their actions.
 
This is what we refer to as 'The Nanny State".

And Bush has expanded it more than any President probably in 70 years.
 
I think it's banned in all of America, man. I heard on the news that 120 people have died from it already. Bah! They were either misusing it, or were just concieved with a weak sperm.

Is there any other substance that works like ephedrine? I've tried the "ephedra free" versions of stuff and they suck major ass.
 
Originally posted by bigbutnottoo
This is what we refer to as 'The Nanny State".

And Bush has expanded it more than any President probably in 70 years.

I wouldn't go that far. I've been disappointed by his caving on so many things, but he has stood firm for American sovereignty (as well as sovereignty for everyone else) and told ineffective institutions such as the UN that serve to do little more than give legitimacy to totalitarian dictators to go fuck themselves.
 
Originally posted by Godsize
Is there any other substance that works like ephedrine? I've tried the "ephedra free" versions of stuff and they suck major ass.

Yeah, I've had people try to tell me that ephedrine is dangerous and doesn't even work. Yet, the ephedrine-free Xenadrine sucks compared to the original, in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by oopapercutoo
That's basically what me and penguinsfan were saying...just not quite as eloquently put as you stated it. It's impossible for the government to hold everyone's hand and make sure that they follow clearly labeled instructions on a product. If someone is stupid enough to overdose on an ECA stack, it's their own damn fault. That's no reason for the rest of us to have to suffer however... Banning all products containing ephedrine is ridiculous. The drug has undeniable benefits when it comes to fat loss. Let those of us who are mature enough to follow directions continue using these products, and those of us who aren't mature enough suffer the consequences of their actions.
exactly what I think there's dumb people in this world that are gonna kill themselves one way or another, just let them, its a waste of our society keeping them, andall they're doing isfucking up our chances of using (in this case)ephedrine
 
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