Is 1200- 3600 gramm too much for extenders?

Hi guys
I was wondering if tension of minimum 1200 gramm (max 3600) are too high for extending?
Could one counter that by "easing into it" by letting the springs out and just add rods to reach one's BPSFL ( thus using it as a non-spring slider extender)?
After some time one could work with the minimum of 1200 gramm?

i heard that 1000 to 1200 is actually the most beneficial tension when wearing it for hours.

Thanks guys

stretcherpenis;739766 said:

Hi guys
I was wondering if tension of minimum 1200 gramm (max 3600) are too high for extending?
Could one counter that by "easing into it" by letting the springs out and just add rods to reach one's BPSFL ( thus using it as a non-spring slider extender)?
After some time one could work with the minimum of 1200 gramm?

i heard that 1000 to 1200 is actually the most beneficial tension when wearing it for hours.

Thanks guys

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I am not so convinced that spring tension above 1200 is even necessary. Spring use is mainly to keep traction while bars actually elongate the penis. I think 3600 spins are all hype, just like extra large condoms.

The tension on my SG seems to work well for me. I started off at the minimum as it suggested and found myself moving up pretty quickly. I have been able to add the 2 shorter bars and will likely have to move up to one of the long bars in about a week as the tension starts off good but loosens during the day and I have to turn the adjustment screws multiple times during that day

Lookn4girth;739866 said:

The tension on my SG seems to work well for me. I started off at the minimum as it suggested and found myself moving up pretty quickly. I have been able to add the 2 shorter bars and will likely have to move up to one of the long bars in about a week as the tension starts off good but loosens during the day and I have to turn the adjustment screws multiple times during that day

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Thanks guys. I still do not get how tension and rod-length interact in extenders.
Lookn4girth , do you mean "moving up tension" or " moving up rod length"?
If you add as many rods to strap in around your BPSFL ,do the springs help you too stretch past that value or do the springs work against your base ,so that the penis might slip out of the extender head piece?

stretcherpenis;739874 said:

Thanks guys. I still do not get how tension and rod-length interact in extenders.
Lookn4girth , do you mean "moving up tension" or " moving up rod length"?
If you add as many rods to strap in around your BPSFL ,do the springs help you too stretch past that value or do the springs work against your base ,so that the penis might slip out of the extender head piece?

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I add rods throughout the day as the tension decreases. I try not to turn the adjustment screws unless I am unable to add an additional rod. When I add a rod I do not have to turn the adjustment screws as the tension is already up. The springs help stretch me past the value you are describing. It took me a while to come up with a wrapping technique that would hold without slipping and not cut off circulation. I hope my description is understandable.

Lookn4girth;739898 said:

I add rods throughout the day as the tension decreases. I try not to turn the adjustment screws unless I am unable to add an additional rod. When I add a rod I do not have to turn the adjustment screws as the tension is already up. The springs help stretch me past the value you are describing. It took me a while to come up with a wrapping technique that would hold without slipping and not cut off circulation. I hope my description is understandable.

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Thanks. What i do not get: if the springs help you past your BPSFL ,they are indeed a factor determining gains? If so, the ever lasting increase of spring tensions(gramm) ,would be beneficial for gains? What exactly is the difference of using an extender (1200 gramm maximum) with a stretched flaccid length of 7 inch vs. using an extender ( with lets say 3600 max) with a stretched flaccid of 7 inch?Does the second one even allow stretching at BPSFL level or would i need to tug in ,say, one inch under that value?
Does the higher traction and force work towards the glans thus stretching at the penis harder?

I hope i do not get on your nerves. I watched some videos,how extenders are supposed to work.Still not getting it.

ahh. Can you fine tune the tension with the screws? So you could go lower than 1/3 of the maximum?

stretcherpenis;739903 said:

Thanks. What i do not get: if the springs help you past your BPSFL ,they are indeed a factor determining gains? If so, the ever lasting increase of spring tensions(gramm) ,would be beneficial for gains? What exactly is the difference of using an extender (1200 gramm maximum) with a stretched flaccid length of 7 inch vs. using an extender ( with lets say 3600 max) with a stretched flaccid of 7 inch?Does the second one even allow stretching at BPSFL level or would i need to tug in ,say, one inch under that value?
Does the higher traction and force work towards the glans thus stretching at the penis harder?

I hope i do not get on your nerves. I watched some videos,how extenders are supposed to work.Still not getting it.

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To be honest, I have no idea how to tell how much tension is actually being placed on the penis during stretching. I know that the lines on the bars are suppose to indicate how much tension you have and I try to keep mine with only one bar remaining. If I am going for a more intense stretch, I will make a small adjustment to the screws to add more tension and hide all marks on the bar if I can't squeeze in another bar. Lately I feel that I am getting more stretch from my SG. I do wish that I could find a way to wear it while working as I sit at a desk all day. I have managed to get my time up to about 4 to 5 hours. I take a 5 minute break every hour to return good circulation and then go back on

You are not getting on my nerves at all. That is what we are all here for, helping each other and learning. Heck, I am still learning myself. There are a lot of guys here that are far more experienced in the use of the extenders and may be along here shortly to add some more to this. There is also some videos in the SG forum that may help explain it better than I can.

Lookn4girth;739906 said:

To be honest, I have no idea how to tell how much tension is actually being placed on the penis during stretching. I know that the lines on the bars are suppose to indicate how much tension you have and I try to keep mine with only one bar remaining. If I am going for a more intense stretch, I will make a small adjustment to the screws to add more tension and hide all marks on the bar if I can't squeeze in another bar. Lately I feel that I am getting more stretch from my SG. I do wish that I could find a way to wear it while working as I sit at a desk all day. I have managed to get my time up to about 4 to 5 hours. I take a 5 minute break every hour to return good circulation and then go back on

You are not getting on my nerves at all. That is what we are all here for, helping each other and learning. Heck, I am still learning myself. There are a lot of guys here that are far more experienced in the use of the extenders and may be along here shortly to add some more to this. There is also some videos in the SG forum that may help explain it better than I can.

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I think the main thing i need to grasp is this. BPSFL is around 7 inch. I thought extenders are the same as manual stretching but help you do it all day.
Can you actually achieve the 7 inch in rod length on an extender with more traction? Or would you only achieve ,say, 6 inch and the pull of the springs prevents you from stretching longer?
This has to do with the problem " long hours with low tension (extender 1) vs. short time with higher tension"(extender 2)
This saying maked it sound as if there is a difference?

stretcherpenis;739766 said:

Hi guys
I was wondering if tension of minimum 1200 gramm (max 3600) are too high for extending?
Could one counter that by "easing into it" by letting the springs out and just add rods to reach one's BPSFL ( thus using it as a non-spring slider extender)?
After some time one could work with the minimum of 1200 gramm?

i heard that 1000 to 1200 is actually the most beneficial tension when wearing it for hours.

Thanks guys

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Yeah I agree with DLD I don't think you need or want that much pressure on an extender. If you want intensity you are better off doing manuals and hanging, the extender is best used for healing at a low intensity.

stretcherpenis;739907 said:

I think the main thing i need to grasp is this. BPSFL is around 7 inch. I thought extenders are the same as manual stretching but help you do it all day.
Can you actually achieve the 7 inch in rod length on an extender with more traction? Or would you only achieve ,say, 6 inch and the pull of the springs prevents you from stretching longer?
This has to do with the problem " long hours with low tension (extender 1) vs. short time with higher tension"(extender 2)
This saying maked it sound as if there is a difference?

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IIRC, DLD had a post that addressed this very question. He said that he thought the claim of 3600g of tension was just hype. If you have a BPFSL of 7" then you should be able to place the extender on your penis with it stretched to 7" with the extender depressed. The directions call for adding enough bars to extend a cm past you bpfsl, I went a little more than that. When you strap in and release this will apply the tension to the penis keeping it extended. As the penis relaxes the tension will become less. This is when I turn the adjustment screws or add another small bar. The tension is applied along the shaft of the penis keeping it extended. The only thing that limits the amount of stretch you can achieve is your penis. When I put my extender on I push the base ring in and stretch my penis out to strap it in. When I release the extender my penis is under tension. Does this help explain it any better

Lookn4girth;739915 said:

IIRC, DLD had a post that addressed this very question. He said that he thought the claim of 3600g of tension was just hype. If you have a BPFSL of 7" then you should be able to place the extender on your penis with it stretched to 7" with the extender depressed. The directions call for adding enough bars to extend a cm past you bpfsl, I went a little more than that. When you strap in and release this will apply the tension to the penis keeping it extended. As the penis relaxes the tension will become less. This is when I turn the adjustment screws or add another small bar. The tension is applied along the shaft of the penis keeping it extended. The only thing that limits the amount of stretch you can achieve is your penis. When I put my extender on I push the base ring in and stretch my penis out to strap it in. When I release the extender my penis is under tension. Does this help explain it any better

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You just don't need that much strength on an extender, get a Length Master.

rocky1243;739916 said:

You just don't need that much strength on an extender, get a Length Master.

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Agreed, I ordered the LM and will use my extender more in the healing mode than stretching

Can you do lower tension levels than 1/3 of the max ?
( I always had that rule of thumb in mind .1/3 ought to be the minimum).
Or does "finetuning" with screws only work over the minimum?

If you leave the springs out of the extender,does that automatically make it into a slider extender?
I heard there are differing approaches now and non-spring-based ones are used as well

stretcherpenis;739933 said:

Can you do lower tension levels than 1/3 of the max ?
( I always had that rule of thumb in mind .1/3 ought to be the minimum).
Or does "finetuning" with screws only work over the minimum?

If you leave the springs out of the extender,does that automatically make it into a slider extender?
I heard there are differing approaches now and non-spring-based ones are used as well

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You can use the extender with the minimum tension and it will still keep you stretched but it will not encourage your penis to stretch further. If you leave the springs out you would not be able to get any extension. The penis would force the extender into the collapsed position.

Lookn4girth;739943 said:

You can use the extender with the minimum tension and it will still keep you stretched but it will not encourage your penis to stretch further. If you leave the springs out you would not be able to get any extension. The penis would force the extender into the collapsed position.

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Do you then add rods given you say "you cannot stretch the penis further"? Adding rods would encouraqge the penis to stretch further even if using the minimum tension?
I still do not get whether more tension would be beneficial in this scenario and would make the penis strech further or simply adding rods.

stretcherpenis;739945 said:

Do you then add rods given you say "you cannot stretch the penis further"? Adding rods would encouraqge the penis to stretch further even if using the minimum tension?
I still do not get whether more tension would be beneficial in this scenario and would make the penis strech further or simply adding rods.

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You can add rods as your penis extends or you can make small adjustments with the screws if you are not able to add a bar, this would create more stretch but you still want to have the springs in place as this will encourage your penis to stretch while keeping it extended. I would agree with what Rocky posted above, he stated that you do not need that much tension on an extender. I have ordered the LM to do more serious stretching and will use the SG to help cement the gains I obtain by keeping my penis extended while healing. I am not sure if more tension would serve any purpose or not. It would seem that you are only going to get so much tension before something gives,(slipping out or cutting off circulation because you are having to cinch down so tight to hold your penis in)I may not be explaining it correctly but I am trying

Just as an example, I start off in the morning by doing some light manual stretches. I then get into my SG with only the medium size bar. After an hour or so I take it off and restore circulation and when I go back in I add the small bar and when I release the SG I am at the middle line on tension. During the next hour I will make small adjustments to the screws keeping me at the middle line. After that hour is up, I take it off and restore good circulation. During that time I will replace the small and medium bar with one set of the longer bars. When I put this on and release I am between the 2nd and 3rd line. I keep this setup on for an hour and use the screws to make adjustments to keep it at the same tension. I wear this last setup and keep it at the same tension for at least 3 to 4 hours

Lookn4girth;739953 said:

You can add rods as your penis extends or you can make small adjustments with the screws if you are not able to add a bar, this would create more stretch but you still want to have the springs in place as this will encourage your penis to stretch while keeping it extended.

Just as an example, I start off in the morning by doing some light manual stretches. I then get into my SG with only the medium size bar. After an hour or so I take it off and restore circulation and when I go back in I add the small bar and when I release the SG I am at the middle line on tension. During the next hour I will make small adjustments to the screws keeping me at the middle line. After that hour is up, I take it off and restore good circulation. During that time I will replace the small and medium bar with one set of the longer bars. When I put this on and release I am between the 2nd and 3rd line. I keep this setup on for an hour and use the screws to make adjustments to keep it at the same tension. I wear this last setup and keep it at the same tension for at least 3 to 4 hours

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So you start at the middle line. Making small adjustments means you increase or decrease tension that it stays in the middle line after adding the small bar? Cause it what would happen if you did not increase/decrease, i.e. small adjustments? If you would not alter the tension but kept on piling rods wouldn' t that be possible as well?

And you cannot take out the springs and turn it into a slider extendder like a classical non-spring based one? I heard that they are quite good as well.

stretcherpenis;739958 said:

So you start at the middle line. Making small adjustments means you increase or decrease tension that it stays in the middle line after adding the small bar? Cause it what would happen if you did not increase/decrease, i.e. small adjustments? If you would not alter the tension but kept on piling rods wouldn' t that be possible as well?

And you cannot take out the springs and turn it into a slider extendder like a classical non-spring based one? I heard that they are quite good as well.

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I start my extender at the second line when I add the small bar after the first hour. You could maintain that tension if you added bars as you stated. I am not familiar with the slider extender you are referring to but it may work the same.

Lookn4girth;739967 said:

I start my extender at the second line when I add the small bar after the first hour. You could maintain that tension if you added bars as you stated. I am not familiar with the slider extender you are referring to but it may work the same.

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Thanks,lookn. Can you finetune between the different tension settings (lines?) by turning the screws?
I understand you cannot lower the minimum tension under the last line,so to speak? But you could finetune between the lines?
So lets say. The spring has 1500 gramm max. First line is 500 g,second 1000, third 1500. You could finetune to 700g ,approximately?