I need help with this girl i like

Aight, well basically I haven't had a girlfriend since they were dumping me over playing too much football (soccer) and sports i.e. since middle school - about age 11. And each 'relationship' if u can call it that lasted about 3 weeks-a month. So I've never had a 'proper' girlfriend. From having a great upbringing and listening to Tupac, I've come to respect women immensely even during times when that view was tested to the max (i won't go into that now) and so I've absorbed alot of information on how to be around women and how to talk to them, not to mention shitloads of game from Pac. And as a Cancerian I'm supposed to be a natural charmer - everyone tells me that I'm very charming, and not to blow my own trumpet, but in my opinion I am.

The only thing is, all that goes out the window when it's someone you like.
I've known this stunning Indian girl for 4 or 5 months. We met at college when she was waiting for her dealer to get some weed. I waited with her and told my Dad to pick me up later, LOL. I was waiting with her 'til 7 something and it had all gotten dark. She thanked me for staying there with her 'cause Bedford - where the College is, like anywhere can get scary after dark. Her words were somethin' like that. Since then we've said hi to each other and chilled on Campus. Then it got to the stage of us playin' pool together - I bumped into her in this big ass pub/club we've got, next door to the restaurant where we were celebrating my Granny's birthday - so I was on a hella high, all suited and booted. And we grinded i tiny tiny bit. I broke her friend off some money for a taxi - I'm like that anyway but I had an ulterior motive this time
Since then we've seen each other in Bedford and danced, but not together, had a few puffts together and I've lent her some more money.
She can have it, I don't care - if it make her see that I'm a good guy and helps get us together. I've completely just str8 fallen for her.

Last weekend, at Bedford River Festival I won her a massive, realistic, cuddly, Indian tiger. She said it made her day - and that made mine.
I'm telling you, she is sooooooooo fine, she could easily be a Bollywood model/actress, and she's real sweet too. Nice personality and everything, I hope I'm not being naive. She's single and I heard her saying to her friends who I was sitting with that she needs a man to take her out, wine and dine her, buy her things. I felt like shouting, 'I'm right here!', LOL.
I've offered to take her out to an event we got over here. Whoo Kid is coming to Bedford tonight and V.I.P. tickets are only £12 each. She told me she'd love to go but she had no money. I said it's my birthday today (yesterday) - which it was so I was gonnatreat myself and if she wanted I'd get one for her too. She wished me happy birthday kinda excited (i think) and she said call me the same time tomorrow (now today). I'm about to call her right now. But what the fuck do I say? I think I might have been a bit too much for her on the phone previous times (She's kinda laid back whether she's smokin' weed or not) and that makes me think she's ignorin' me on the phone or not bothered with what I have to say, so I get all excited and shit.

Yea, so how should I play it? Got to go out in 5 minutes, so quick replies would be appreciated.

Thanx y'all.

FORGET THAT BITCH. YOU HAVE NO CHANCE. What are you doing? Giving her money, saying you will buy her things. You are nuts and this chick has no respect for you. Forget her and I'm sorry but you have no game. In the future ELIMINATE YOUR DESIRES.

Like Jason said cut this girl off. she is just gonna use you then throw you to the curb IMO. well good luck with it

LOL. I don't know what else to say.... Well, thanx for replying anyway and
thanx for the Good Luck message.
An update: I've now spoken to her and she seemed genuinely pleased to hear from me and is still up for going to this event later. She's babysitting 'til 9 so we're gonna meet up in the pub that's near to the venue. She has paid back money I gave her before, and tried to sort out her friend paying me back the money for the taxi, which the friend hasn't 'got round to' yet. Believe me, I wouldn't go near a str8 money-grabbing, gold-digging, freeloader whore.
This girl has proved herself to me and I'm willing to take the chance. But thanx for the warning - it IS appreciated, 'cuz us guys are too gullible sometimes and it's easy as fuck to get taken for a ride. Any more advice, for or against getting with her is still more than welcome.....

Yeah man i say go for it, i mean if it doesn't work out, at least you tried.

thanx man

(1) What is the main reason why most men cheat in relationships?

Because they can.

(2) What is the main reason why most women use guys in relationships?

Because they can.


Girls who are 9, 10's or whatever you want to call them get all kinds of undeserving attention from just about everyone from the day they are born and this leads to a false sense of self-esteem in every area of life except for one which is that they can have just about any guy wrapped around their little finger by using their attractiveness and the bait of sex to get what they want out of a man. My guess is you are not yet 18 (not gonna ask because admitting otherwise would get you banned), but the worst thing you can do with any woman is give her undeserved praise and attention just because of how she looks which is a shallow pussified and disrespectful way of treating another human being in the first place.

Stop thinking about her being so fine and stop and think about the fact you are being so ridiculously nice to some lady who has not done a damn thing for you so far? I mean, has she bought you anything or has she done anything at all to earn your respect and your hard earned dollar (unless your parents of course give you an allowance which is lame if you ask me).

When you grow up you will realize relationships are give and take. Just because someone is pretty does not mean they have the right to just take take take.

Yeah but girls won't come up to you, so you have to make *some* kind of move.
Don't you ?

well said MCTFB. I was just in a relationship where my partner just took took took until i was broke. Never again am I falling for that trap again. Annonymous I'm sorry for coming across kind of blunt but you just have to watch out man. Hopefully she'll turn out to be a nice girl. good luck once again

(1) What is the main reason why most men cheat in relationships?
Because they can.

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(2) What is the main reason why most women use guys in relationships?
Because they can.

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Yea, that's a very good point. I never really thought of it that way before. The trick is not to give them the option by covering all bases and thinkin' more about what ur doing BEFORE and when you do it - not after, when it's too late.

To be honest with you, I was a little offended that you 'guessed' 'I'm not yet eighteen'. In reality, I was 20 on Thursday. Is it too much to comprehend that someone as mature an age as 20 (and I use that term loosely as we all know 20 year olds are far from mature) could be as naive as I might be being, could know so little about what move to make next and could be so confused over this issue? Like I said, I've never had a 'proper' girlfriend, due to alot of bullshit that happened to me that knocked my confidence. That's the whole reason i'm here, in this thread - askin' for advice.

I really am not thinking about her being so fine, maybe I shouldn't have said that. I was just tryin' to put you in the frame. I'm in love with who she IS, like I said, personality-wise she's got a lot going for her. She HAS proved herself to me, didn't you read a word I said? Don't jump to conclusions if the first sentence you read smacks of naivety.
And no, my parents don't give me an allowance. I earn MY way, have since I was 16-17. I was lucky enough to have one up until that age. But I still worked even then. I'm not a freeloader and neither will be any women I go after. If I find out they are, they get kicked to the kerb - simple as that.

When you grow up you will realize relationships are give and take. Just because someone is pretty does not mean they have the right to just take take take.

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I agree entirely - except for the 'When you grow up...' bit.

I assumed you were much younger because you were talking about middle school and well by the time people are 20, most people move to another city, go to college, do something else with their life and usually lose touch with high school pals. You were talking about middle school so I just assumed you were under 18. My apologies.

Ah, i see what you mean. It's kinda cool, I've basically stayed in the same place, where I grew up 'cause I love it so much. I met the girl at college - she started her course last September, and I started there September '02.
I've known her for about 5-6 months now i reckon. Wow, doesn't time fly.
Apology accepted man. I didn't mean to have a go at you with what I said either, I just felt a little offended. And I should have been more clear maybe.

Hey man... i'm 19 and am kind of in the same boat as you (never having a real girlfriend bit i mean) i start college on the 30th August and am hoping to find a girl there too.
I'll cross my fingers eh, lol

Man, it ain't nice is it? Still, you will find someone man. Go for it! Best of luck to u playa. And thanx for the reply

I was in such a state of confusion over this girl that I posted a similar thread over @ my home the Hitemup forum. Btw, if u like Pac, check it out. The site has been going since '95 and pretty much any rare Tupac tracks, studio scraps, videos, studio footage can be found here - Hitemup/Good Life '95 recording session anyone? Plus it has a nice array of General forums. There's a Tupac - Life, Death, Makaveli Branded, Outlawz, Remixes forum, Trading forum and alot more.

here's the thread http://forum.hitemup.com/showthread.php?t=106782&page=3&pp=15

I was biggin' MOS up on there btw

Annony,

Dude at first when I read your post I thought it was a joke. Seriously, I thought you were playing around and stuff. But I can see that you need some solid input from the guys around here that have been in your shoes and are more experienced with women than you are. Some things I am going to tell you may sound harsh but trust me its for your own good. Reread Jason's post b/c he is dead on right and is giving you the Cliff Notes version of what I am going to tell you I only disagree that you don't have to eliminate your desires...shit you should go with your desires and express them non verbally through your body language and the way you interact.

First of all, you're not half as charming as you like to think of yourself as. If you were you would have already charmed the pants off of this girl and tons of others in college. Nothing wrong with not being the smoothest charmer in the world...but realizing that you need to do some work is the first step in the right direction. You have zero game....accept it it takes less than a week to get sex from a girl and you can bang girls the same night you meet them...hang with her and be a man....advance the realationship towards physical intimacy and trust me girls will either fuck or leave....BE A MAN and you'll get tons of action.

Now stop lending anyone money....shit its one thing to help out your close friends (and even this is dangerous)but lending a girl you barely know money is fucked up...trust me if she needs money that bad she can get a job or something or rob a bank....but decide that she won't get any of your money....shit I thought rappers were pimps and shit getting girls to give them money...

Now onto the rap....I'm more into rock but as far as I thought rappers were all about being players and having a player mindset which is the fucking opposite of what you have dude...I mean the best thing to do is go fuck other girls....and really dude cut out the nice guy shit...I've heard some 2pac before but I've never heard the song where he said be a nice guy act like a pussy and you'll be a real player like me...

As for this girl your after, dude you've already blown it...you've known her 5 or six months and nothing....she thinks of you as a girl....hahaha...sorry but guy you're better off making friends with a dude thats good with girls and taking him to the concert with you and asking him to show you how to meet girls...or tell this broad that you blew it with to hook you up with chicks...

Don't think that being nice to girls is the way to get them....they need to see you as sexual so BE SEXUAL. Give them good eye contact...have great body language...be playful and not serious. shit the game isn't a job interview its a GAME!!!!!! So play......and guys don't walk around with the mindset of yeah in college I will find somebody. A girl who will understand me...blah blah blah...dude be the man. See a girl you like and go get her. Women are attracted to men so be a man....don't be ashamed of your desire to fuck them...they want to fuck a man just as bad as a real man wants to fuck them...so be the confident playful fella and slam her hard bro with your massive Penis Enlargement'd schlong...lol

Any questions ask away.....

Looks life I got told.

Alright dude first rule when you are in college do not wine and dine girls. You are a college kid and if ur as charming as you say you are you should be able to get plenty of ass without going for the stuck up bitches. Also the fact that she excepts your money is weird. I would stay away from girls like that unless you want to wine and dine her once and then bang her, pull a sebastian from Cruel Intentions. This girl sounds all kind of wrong.

That's good advice. Don't know why the hell I couldn't draw logical conclusions like this.
I spose she's really messed up my head. In my experience every girl would take money if u offered it.
I'm surprised it's not the same where u r PocketCowboys.
That comment really shocked me.

She's not a money grabbing bitch. Her friends try to get her to take people for a ride and squeeze every last penny out of them, but so far she's resisted.
I suppose she accepted cause she liked and likes to be treated nice.
At times she's asked me to borrow money, partly to buy drinks and she's actually paid me back. She might be into weed and shit but she does seem to be a sensible, intelligent young girl. Lol haven't got round to seeing Cruel Intentions yet, sounds tight.

On a side note, out of curiosity, did anyone check out the thread I posted on my DILEMMA over @ www.hitemup.com ?

well?