Mr Pump

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Here I am, standing 5'6 ...already a short guy. 6" EL, 5.5" EG and one small ass flaccid hang.

Ok it's bad enough being a short guy, women don't really dig short men to begin with. Tag on my current size but decrease some measurement in length because while I'm having sex my erection goes down a bit after a short amount of time. So lets say I'm 5.5" EL.

I can't seem to gain any length from stretching. But I have from girth work. I can get my EG up to 6", which all this time thought women would love .... wrong. I've never been with a woman that was fased by 6" of girth. Length seems to be where it's at. I notice that when I talk to women about sex I always hear "deep". I convinced my last gf (which says size only matters to guys) to have phone sex with me while I was out of town for awhile. In that experience I noticed that she spoke alot of wanting to have me deep inside her. Never once did I hear "oh I want your thick cock". On top of that she was never really satisfied with sex and the only time I could really get any decent response from her was when I was rock hard and pushed in as far as possible.

What a let down this has been. I swear I have ligs of steel. Or maybe I'm one of those guys that just won't gain anything in length.

Seems I can't hit the spot. If this was only one case where I've had problems sex wise I would discount it. I really think length is where it's at. I've been with some really tight women as my ex above was and the girth just doesn't seem to have the effect I was hoping.

Just had to vent, this shit is really depressing.
 
I wouldn't say you're small, but that's not something you can talk a guy into believing. According to me, DLD, Supra, and most people here, 5.5 is average, and often misconstrued as 7-7.5 inches. Your girth is awesome! That is what I'm personally working up to.

My advice to you would be to start hanging. It works the ligs A LOT more than manual stretching. :)

CYiNiSiS
 
Hey, man, 6" is not small at all. It is actually a little bit above average. You probably won't believe that but it is true.

It has been my experience that women aren't impressed all that much by thickness either. Although some say girth is where it's at, I am like you. I have never heard a woman say "ooh, stretch me out with that thick-ass tool!"

As far as getting a response from your woman except when you're rock hard...get used to it. Women seem to be able to adjust to a man's size pretty quickly. I have gone from 5.5" to 7.5" rapidly, and although my wife really notices the increases, she eventually adjusts to it and quits making that "ouch" face when I go in all the way. Those coochies are pretty stretchy, so don't sweat it. I mean, babies come out of those things, so unless you get as thick as a 2-liter coke jug, you're not going to max one of those out!

I am of the opinion that it is impossible NOT to gain if you are persistent. You simply need to find out what is holding you back from getting those ligs stretched. You are probably not stretching often or intensely enough. If you are tightly circumcised, your lack of loose skin may be the culprit. If you want us to help, you are simply going to have to give more detail-- are you a fast healer, do you have good circulation, have you ever been injured down there, are you tightly circumcised, etc? I always have red spots or bruising when I am done with a routine...do you experience the same thing? When I stretch, I am not happy til I hear some ligs pop and feel that "give" under the skin.

The best thing Penis Enlargement does for a man when they are successful at it is not a .25" gain in length...it is the confidence boost. It is the strut you have when you walk across a room and notice a few eyes flick down to your package. It is the confidence you have when you drop trou and your ladies eyes light on your very healthy and very hard dick. More than anything, women can smell a loser, so don't be one. Be confident and enjoy sex and they will enjoy it, too!

And never ever ask them if they thought you were okay or apologize for your penis. You may never be a John Holmes, but if you learn to think you're a fucking stud, your women will, too!
 
Mr Pump said:
Here I am, standing 5'6 ...already a short guy. 6" EL, 5.5" EG and one small ass flaccid hang.

Mr. Pump, I feel your pain. My stats are very similar.
 
Ok here goes. I have been lurking around this forum since I guess it got started and lurked in the other forums when DLD was over there. I don't know why I thought I should reply all of a sudden nor that anyone cares. I think (MrPump) you are right in thinking that, for a long time I enjoyed believing that girls were just over guessing sizes and what not but truth is they have a pretty good idea of what goes up in them and as we all know sometimes just when you think you may have fooled yourself into thinking that maybe I aint so bad, size wise, you realize that that particular time you were having sex with whomever it seemed a little looser or she seemed to handle it without any problems. That is when you realize that you are small and wished you could be like most other men (not ���� material or anything although that would be great but at least 8 inches in order to give consistent satisfaction.) I know this is how I think at times and then I just start exercising more intensely. But I am starting to realize that after 3 yrs of doing all the exercises routinely and with intensity and when it comes down to it I am still not quite sure if I have gained anything. There have been
times it seemed I gained but I never know if maybe I am just stretching it a little harder or if I am in the exact same position up or down when measuring. But there has not been any great noticeable increase from my starting stats of 6.5 inches (if I press really hard on the bone it shows 7 1/4 but I don't think this is real gains because it is not consistent.) Mr pump I understand why you feel depressed because that is how I am feeling now and maybe that is why I decided to post. I am just not willing to accept that this does not really work and will probably will continue to do exercises but just don't have the will power like before. I really don't want to hear that well some people have tougher ligs than others like I have seen before I just don't believe that there are that many people out there with tough ligs versus without. I am not sure why it appears some albeit few seem to gain with ease and others can not gain even a cm. I know there will be someone say well just quit and live with what you have then, but some of us have no where else to turn except here so at least there is somewhere we can all turn for comfort. Sorry for the long post but felt I had too for some reason.
 
is that BPenis EnlargementL ?, Mr. Pump... 5.5" EG is pretty good though
 
Mr Pump said:
I can get my EG up to 6", which all this time thought women would love .... wrong. I've never been with a woman that was fased by 6" of girth. Length seems to be where it's at. I notice that when I talk to women about sex I always hear "deep".

I think what really counts is volume. Like kong 1971 said, women can accomodate a lot (although there obviously is an upper limit) and the vagina has a tendency to elongate when a woman is aroused. That's probably where all the "deep" talk comes from.

I think women love your girth, they'll just love it a little more if you add some length. Unfortunately I can't offer any good advice; I wouldn't say I'm an easy gainer but I have had my gains, mostly when doing the basics. Sadly, I think that your mental state has effectively put a damper on any gains you might have been able to get by now. It's hard to break that depressed feeling but I'm guessing you'll have to in order to make some gains.
 
Hey AC! Thanks for the reply. If you mean noticable by looking at a normal erection and thinking hey that seems bigger then NO! But there are days when it seems a little bigger but usually after a workout but the most discouraging thing is sometimes it seems like it has retracted a little after a workout and then by the morning it seems a little longer but just not sure. I think it must be mind games. My stats are el 6.4 inches fl 4 inches bpfs 7 1/4 bpel 6.9 inches these are varying measurements though. I have taken breaks but not any kind of scheduled breaks because I still exercise thinking that maybe one day it will suddenly grow and also afraid if I quit it will retract. So mostly lately not very vigorous exercises. I think I am going to try going back to the basics after a little break and if that does not work probably tell all of you bye and work on other parts of my life. Thanks.
 
Thanks for the support I believe if nothing else that is probably the most helpful for people who lurk here. I have not tried hanging or anything that is too much out of the ordinary because of my schedule. But I think I will start over from beginning and maybe take some time off but I have seen where DLD says he thought it was best to keep at it. Anyway I hope some of these posts help Mr Pump also it seems some of us are having a hard time with this and I hope there is HOPenis Enlargement but I understand it won't be the end of the world or anything it just ticks me off that I have to be the one who can not gain.
 
Check out my info, I began with about your size (smaller girth) and I am up to 8 1/8 by 5 3/4 in one year with a less than steller Penis Enlargement routine.
 
Mr. Pump and B-Man, I understand where you guys are coming from and I know these are very real feelings right now and what I am going to say may not help at this moment but I will say it anyway; you both are above average and need to be grateful for that. I am going to be coming out with my 5th penile study in the next few days and it tackles many of the issues you 2 and many other guys struggle with. Now, I am not saying BE HAPPY and ACCEPT what you have but what I am saying is BE GRATEFUL that you are above average and you have the power and gift to change your size. I remember lots of times coming up in Penis Enlargement I would get discouraged and have many of the same discouraging thoughts but those two items I mentioned above got me through because no matter how bad I felt, there was always someone worse off than me who has no idea what Penis Enlargement is.

Now, getting to the issue of not gaining, this is a much different approach. Just because you have not made gains or slow gains does not mean you are incapable of gaining, it only means you need to re-evaluate your program. If you both would like to send me your current routines in depth I would be happy to review them and make some suggestions. Sometimes a one on one approach is just the thing guys need to jump start gains.
 
Mr Pump & Bman -- have you guys thought about trying an ADS?

I'm 6'3", and my measurements are something like 5.5" EL and 4.5" EG. My girth has gained 1/4" in since I picked up NPenis Enlargement after a few months off, but my length is not increasing well. I have some carple-tunnel syndrome in both wrists, so the manual stretches are hard to do.

My next effort will the the ventless tugger, and maybe I'll respond better to the traction growth than the stretching growth -- maybe you would too. Another possibility I might pursue is the Supra Slammers. I've read several posts about guys gaining length from them, and it's more of a jelq-type motion than a stretch, but I'll still try the tugger first because the intensity of the slammers is a little scary to a relative novice like me.

When I start feeling down about lack of gains, I try to look at it this way: I've got nothing to lose, so why not keep up the good work? If nothing else, my unit is a lot healthier overall than it was six months ago.

BTW, don't forget to talk about your nutrition when these (truely awesome) people ask you about your routines. If you're living on fast food, that could have a lot to do with it right there.
 
Thanks for all the replies

In my Penis Enlargement venture I've tried just about everything. I always wanted to hang but could never get anything to stay on. I've seen a few others that have the same problem so I'm grateful that I'm not totally uncoordinated.

I got my girth through ULI work. I tried horses and other things but I spent alot of time doing ULI's. Now I'm getting into the constrictor exercises and they are pretty good but still how thick do I want to be with average length.

Basically I do alot of physical work at my job. At the end of the day my hands already hurt. Adding 30 mins of stretches and my hands tingle. I wish there was a good stretcher on the market that worked. I would wear that thing as much as I could with safety in mind of course. Neglected buying a BIB because I'd hate to waste the money I don't have with something that's going to slip off.

I'm circumsized and pretty tightly but have stretched my skin some from my old bouts with the pump. Manual stretching just seems worthless. I never feel any explained sensations out of my ligs while stretching. I do a good workout mostly straight down rotating hands. I read up on LOT, don't know how accurate that is but mine is 9:00 so supposevly I have tight ligs.

Ads never worked for me, could never keep anything going with that. DLD blasters got me lightheaded and I never felt anything in the ligs. I watched the video and Gandolf seemed like he got extra length on every pull. Never got any of that here.

Lots of war scars but no victory
 
xtremegamer said:
Check out my info, I began with about your size (smaller girth) and I am up to 8 1/8 by 5 3/4 in one year with a less than steller Penis Enlargement routine.

Damn for real?

I started at 5 NBPenis EnlargementL and 5 E.G. That was back in February of this year. I'm at 6 NBPenis EnlargementL and about 5.25 E.G. now. I just joined the pay site and am going to start with Phase 2. What you just said cheered me up a bit. Damn over 8 inches now huh? Sweet deal.

As for the man who started this thread I feel for ya, but don't let it get you down that much. Just look at it from now that you are starting over. Look on to a time where you will have the penis you want. Make a goal. Not a long term one just a short term one and figure a plan to get you to that mark.

I mean look, you have a penis and shit you're using it. Me, I'm so much of a loser I haven't had a girl in so long I'm surprised it hasn't rotted off yet. Keep looking toward the positive and think to yourself Penis Enlargementing is better than doing nothing about what you're upset over. I think everyone gets that way even when they do gain. Keep at it and you will get results. Everyone here is here for each other. That's what I've seen from this forum.
 
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