Hi everyone, Im a new member and I'd like to introduce myself. Im an average guy with a less than average penis, in fact my first goal is to obtin an "average" 6 to 6 1/2" penis. I'm starting with a short, fat one - 4 5/8" erect length and 5 3/8" girth. I've been doing a similar routine to MOS for 3 weeks and started MOS this week on Monday. I havent made any noticable erect gains yet but im very dedicated and patient. I have , however, made some noticeable flaccid length gains although i havent been measureing flaccid. Is it normal to see flaccid gains first? It seems fatter in the flaccid state. Hearing about my wife's 8 1/2" Ex inspired me to grow mine. I may never reach that length , but I at least want to reach "average". I have faith in your routines, DLD, and I'm following your program to the letter! wish me luck. Im going to measure after my first 6 weeks (phase 1). I'll report back then.