Hanging time discussion

i have a question for all the experienced hangers on board. what is the minimum amount of time you've hung per day and still saw gains?
currently i'm a month in to my hanging and i'm hanging 18 lbs fairly comfortably for 80 minutes/day. i try to split up my 4 total, 20 minute sets into two in the morning or early afternoon and then again before bed at night. even though i haven't taken a single day off since i started on sept. 1, i've been consistently doing this routine for only a week at most so i'm not expecting any major gains yet. however, what i'm noticing is that even when i do my two sets prior to going to sleep, when i wake up, it's like my body healed some and the awesome lig stretch i get the night before disappears (not completely though). is this common? if so, i now know why they say hanging is a slow process. it's very discouraging, but there's no way i'm giving up. i'm thinking of adding another set of 20 minutes to make a total of 100 minutes/day, but time is very short for me. with 80 minutes/day, my current routine, i'm getting nearly the 10 hours/week minimum that Bib recommends. (btw Bib, how did you come up with that figure? experience?) what do you guys think?

gorilla,

Some of the stuff in this post bother me a bit.

>currently i'm a month in to my hanging and i'm hanging 18 lbs fairly comfortably for 80 minutes/day.<

18 lbs is a hell of a lot for only one month of hanging. How did you move up so fast? You say you are "fairly comfortable". What does that mean exactly? You should be comfortable. It sounds like you may have moved past your max weight without knowing it.

>i try to split up my 4 total, 20 minute sets into two in the morning or early afternoon and then again before bed at night. even though i haven't taken a single day off since i started on sept. 1, i've been consistently doing this routine for only a week at most so i'm not expecting any major gains yet. however, what i'm noticing is that even when i do my two sets prior to going to sleep, when i wake up, it's like my body healed some and the awesome lig stretch i get the night before disappears (not completely though). is this common?<

It is not uncommon to shrink back. I did often. Some guys think that it is a sign of overwork, and they could be right. You might have jumped your weight a little too much. I do know that when I would raise my max weight, I would sometimes get shrinkage. Question: Do you ever lower the weights on the later sets?

>if so, i now know why they say hanging is a slow process. it's very discouraging, but there's no way i'm giving up.<

Any Penis Enlargement is slow, and hanging is no different. But you also have to be smart. Rethink your progression of adding weight. You may have gone too far too fast.

>i'm thinking of adding another set of 20 minutes to make a total of 100 minutes/day, but time is very short for me. with 80 minutes/day, my current routine, i'm getting nearly the 10 hours/week minimum that Bib recommends. (btw Bib, how did you come up with that figure? experience?) what do you guys think?<

It is simply from anecdotal evidence, from reading of the experiences of hundreds of guys. It seems, in general, the guys that put in ten hours or more of hanging per week gain at a good rate. Some guys that put in less also gain really good, but it does take time under traction.

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Bib said:

gorilla,
18 lbs is a hell of a lot for only one month of hanging. How did you move up so fast? You say you are "fairly comfortable". What does that mean exactly? You should be comfortable. It sounds like you may have moved past your max weight without knowing it.

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i know, it's a lot. i guess my ligs are very tough. i'm comfortable about 30 seconds to a minute into the hanging (when i'm adjusted in my seat properly and everything's in place). after a few sets though, my comfort level fades slightly (takes maybe two minutes to adjust and get comfortable). btw, can you refresh my memory on how to find your max weight?

Bib said:

It is not uncommon to shrink back. I did often. Some guys think that it is a sign of overwork, and they could be right. You might have jumped your weight a little too much. I do know that when I would raise my max weight, I would sometimes get shrinkage. Question: Do you ever lower the weights on the later sets?

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Answer to question: no and if i break up the 4 sets into two in the morning and two at night, i have no problem whatsoever maintaining the weight. however, last night i tried doing all 4 sets nearly consecutively (a half hour at most in between two of them) and on my 4th it was a little bit of a struggle. i should have lowered the weight for that set probably, but i was stubborn and stupid and broke one of the important rules in hanging: don't grit your teeth and bear it.

another question i have is: going by personal experience and that of others, what is a realistic expectation for gaining? i know things slow up a bit after a while, but what seems to be the average for beginners and also veterans hanging 10+ hours/week?

also, obviously there has to be a limit to how long a ligament can stretch. what do you think that is for the suspensory and fundiform ligs? what's your guess for there limit?

thanks Bib

gorilla,

>i know, it's a lot. i guess my ligs are very tough. i'm comfortable about 30 seconds to a minute into the hanging (when i'm adjusted in my seat properly and everything's in place). after a few sets though, my comfort level fades slightly (takes maybe two minutes to adjust and get comfortable). btw, can you refresh my memory on how to find your max weight?<

I always say to start low, at 2.5-5 lbs, then move up 1-2 lbs per week till you reach a weight that causes fatigue, soreness, tiredness, in either the ligs, or shaft, or both. That is your max weight, the LOWEST weight that will cause fatigue. Then, after reaching fatigue, you lower the weight on subsequent sets to remain comfortable. If you try to grin and bear it, grit your teeth, that is torture. Not good. Soreness is one sign of tissue deformation. Pain is a sign of injury.

>Answer to question: no and if i break up the 4 sets into two in the morning and two at night, i have no problem whatsoever maintaining the weight.<

That is common. A split session gives time for healing.

>however, last night i tried doing all 4 sets nearly consecutively (a half hour at most in between two of them) and on my 4th it was a little bit of a struggle. i should have lowered the weight for that set probably, but i was stubborn and stupid and broke one of the important rules in hanging: don't grit your teeth and bear it.<

You are correct. Don't fight it. Sit back, relax, and let the weight do the work. If you find yourself clock watching, you are probably using too much weight.

>another question i have is: going by personal experience and that of others, what is a realistic expectation for gaining? i know things slow up a bit after a while, but what seems to be the average for beginners and also veterans hanging 10+ hours/week?<

It just varies so wildly, I cannot come up with anything useful. I have known guys that did not gain for three years, and then after working up to 25 lbs, suddenly begin to gain. I started with good gains at about 7.5 lbs. Others start gaining at 10-15. I would say .25 inches per month is great. One inch per year is really good.

>also, obviously there has to be a limit to how long a ligament can stretch. what do you think that is for the suspensory and fundiform ligs? what's your guess for there limit?<

All of that depends on the amount of inner penis there is available to express by stretching ligs. If you have a high LOT, then there should be a lot of inner penis to express. If your LOT is very low, if you have a low exit point, there may not be much inner penis to express. If you notice, most ���� stars have a very low exit point.

I think my LOT was very high when I started. I had a very high exit point. I estimate that I had about two inches of inner penis to express from lig stretch alone. Perhaps more. I would say the range for expression of inner penis by lig stretch would be from 0 to 3 inches. Perhaps a little more than three inches.

Side note: When I was in my 20's, I had a lower back problem. I was X-rayed to find the problem, and examined the plates with my Dr. The plate included my entire pelvic region. Of course, the X-ray will pick up connective tissue, showing as light areas on the plate. This was prePenis Enlargement for me, and I had a button for a flaccid penis. But on the plate, it clearly appeared that I had a large flaccid penis pointing upwards! I almost screwed up and told the Dr he had the wrong plate. The guy on the plate had a large penis! But I would never have told him why I thought so. Now, I realize this was inner penis being held in by short ligs. Years later, I was able to pull this inner shaft out by hanging.

Along with the LOT test, you can also palpate to find the extent of inner penis. Easy to locate your exit point, where the shaft exits the skin. Then, palpate and find the bottom of your pubic bone. It should not be very far from your prostate. Then, measure the distance from your exit point to the bottom of your pubic bone. This is about the amount of inner penis you can express by stretching ligs.

On the other hand, the shaft, tunica, can be stretched/grown, forever using enough force. Split your thinking into inner and outer tunica. Inner tunica is from the ligs to the prostate. Outer tunica is from the ligs to the head. As you inner tunica grows/stretches, your LOT should rise. Therefore, you will have more inner penis to be expressed by lig stretching.

Hope this helps,

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thanks Bib.

Bib said:

If you notice, most ���� stars have a very low exit point.



Along with the LOT test, you can also palpate to find the extent of inner penis. Easy to locate your exit point, where the shaft exits the skin. Then, palpate and find the bottom of your pubic bone. It should not be very far from your prostate. Then, measure the distance from your exit point to the bottom of your pubic bone. This is about the amount of inner penis you can express by stretching ligs.

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Hi bib,
how can see that ���� stars have an low exit point?
How i can find my pubic bone? Where i have to put my finger in the skin to touch my pubic bone?

Very informative. Nice thread.

dex,

>how can see that ���� stars have an low exit point?<

Because their exit point is usually very low, below the pubic bone, and you can see the entire inner shaft, what little there is, when their legs are spread a bit, plainly esposed, right at their anus.

>How i can find my pubic bone?<

It is the hard object felt above the base of your penis.

>Where i have to put my finger in the skin to touch my pubic bone?<

Above the base of the penis.

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Bib said:

>How i can find my pubic bone?<

It is the hard object felt above the base of your penis.

>Where i have to put my finger in the skin to touch my pubic bone?<

Above the base of the penis.

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Thank you bib for all the answers,not only in this thread.

So it is the same like measuring the bone pressed erect lenght with a ruler.
When im measuring bp lenght, i also push my ruler in my fatpad to the pubic bone.
Is this right?

dex,

>So it is the same like measuring the bone pressed erect lenght with a ruler.
When im measuring bp lenght, i also push my ruler in my fatpad to the pubic bone.<

Yes.

For many guys, the exit point is high. This means the ligs hold the shaft close to the front face of the pubic bone. The bottom of the pubic bone is close to the junction of the two groinal grooves. So, it is a rather tall piece of bone.

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So if I understand this correctly the "inner penis" is roughly the area between the anus and the bottom of the base of my cock? Kind of feels like a muscle just below my balls where I feel the kegels.

If I have it right that would explain some very cool soreness I get in certain sitting positions.

Bib said:

dex,

>So it is the same like measuring the bone pressed erect lenght with a ruler.
When im measuring bp lenght, i also push my ruler in my fatpad to the pubic bone.<

Yes.

For many guys, the exit point is high. This means the ligs hold the shaft close to the front face of the pubic bone. The bottom of the pubic bone is close to the junction of the two groinal grooves. So, it is a rather tall piece of bone.

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So what im measuring?I push my ruler into my fatpad and then i get a measurement if i have good lig potential or not?
Why this test?YOu only have subtract your NBPenis EnlargementL from the BPenis EnlargementL to get this measurement.
Why i have to use the fingers?

I don't follow?

I was asking why you have to use your finger when you can simply use your bpel measurement.
And i want to know what a "good" measurement is, with good i mean a measurement which indicates me a high liq potential.I also want to know what measurement is considered bad in this test.
Does this also mean that people with more fat have a greater liq potential?

I don' think that is what he means.

ocd,

>So if I understand this correctly the "inner penis" is roughly the area between the anus and the bottom of the base of my cock?<

I think of two different areas that comprise "inner penis". First, defining inner penis as that portion of the shaft on the inner side of the skin, within the body. Then, there is a portion between the prostate, close to the anus, to the bottom of the pubic bone. Then, for most guys, the shaft curves up, coming from under the pubic bone, and traveling up the front face of the pubic bone, to exit the skin.

The later portion is what can be exposed by lig stretch. All of the inner penis can be stretched for inner tunica gains.

>Kind of feels like a muscle just below my balls where I feel the kegels.<

Yes, that is your PB muscle. The shaft actually goes through that mass of muscle.

dex,

>So what im measuring?I push my ruler into my fatpad and then i get a measurement if i have good lig potential or not?
Why this test?YOu only have subtract your NBPenis EnlargementL from the BPenis EnlargementL to get this measurement.
Why i have to use the fingers?<

You are way off base. I suggest you read the instructions again. The test has nothing to do with BPenis EnlargementL measures. It is a test to estimate the amount of shaft from the bottom of the pubic bone, to the skin exit point.

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Bib said:

You are way off base. I suggest you read the instructions again. The test has nothing to do with BPenis EnlargementL measures. It is a test to estimate the amount of shaft from the bottom of the pubic bone, to the skin exit point.

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Hi bib,

the following text is a posting from you from another threat in this forum:

"This is along the lines of what I have written about in the past with palpating the distance between the bottom of the pubic bone, and the exit point of the shaft from the skin. Any guy can pull straight out, palpate and find the bottom of the pubic bone with his middle finger, and then put his thumb on the top of the shaft where it exits the skin. The distance from the tip of the middle finger to the thumb would be about how much he could gain from lig stretch, without consideration of inner shaft stretch (could be positive), and without consideration of fat pad (negative).

Good stuff,

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Is this the same test we are discussing now in this threat here?

dex,

>Is this the same test we are discussing now in this threat here?<

I have no idea what you mean. The test you quoted is a test to try and determine the approximate amount of inner penis than can potentially be released by lig stretch.

It does not involve BPenis EnlargementL. You were asking if the pubic bone is the same pubic bone used for the BPenis EnlargementL measure. I said yes. But the pubic bone extends very low, and the shaft can travel a good distance, from under the pubic bone, up the front face of the pubic bone.

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I wanted to know if the test i have quoted from you, is the same test you tried to explain me in this threat here, or if it is another test you came up with.
Im asking this, because i thought you came up with three tests:
1.LOT Test
2.I call it the "exit point" test,the test we are talking about in this threat, which is propably the same test like the test i quoted from you from another threat.
3.I dont know this test and can not find information about it.

Hope you will understand me.

dex,

>Hope you will understand me.<

No, I do not. Does anyone else know what he is attempting to ask?

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