Governor Mcgreevey comes out and resigns

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well i'm sure you've heard about it. jersey's governor Mcgreevey came out of the closet yesterday and resigned as well. he's married twice with two kids, i believe. what do you all think about this? i think there's definately more to the story that will surface later on down the road. supposedly, he had hired this Cipel guy (his alleged male sex friend) to a postition of defense, but the guy had no experience and was completely unqualified for the postition. he was paid like $110,000/year for basically nothing (using tax payers' dollars). what do you guys think?
 

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Heres what I think... "Get a rope!". (referring to a noose)
I have no patience for that kind of blatant misuse of taxpayer dollars (if its true).
 

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badbal said:
Heres what I think... "Get a rope!". (referring to a noose)
I have no patience for that kind of blatant misuse of taxpayer dollars (if its true).
whoa! you want to kill the man b/c of that?
 

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badbal said:
Heres what I think... "Get a rope!". (referring to a noose)
I have no patience for that kind of blatant misuse of taxpayer dollars (if its true).
He had an affair. Okay, a gay affair. Big deal. Clinton had an affair. Do you want to hang him too? What about Kennedy and the others we probably do not know about?

A blatant misuse of tax dollars? Do you think they were paying for KY Jelly and Trojans with NJ State issued checks? I mean the guy was an employee of the state. Maybe unqualified, but hey, aren't most gov't employees exactly that?
 
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If he abused his position as governor, he should resign. Playing tiddly-winks with an employee is one thing, but wasting 100 grand a year to play tiddly-winks is another! He should have just hired his fuck buddy as a secretary instead! It's the gross amount of money the man was being paid that's the scandal, I think, not so much that they were pulling each others puds.
 

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Personally, I don't care if he was fucking sheep. That's his own business, and he and his family have to deal with that part of it.

But I believe the guy was hired to be in charge of the NJ division of homeland security. That's a problem, especially considering the proximity of NJ to NY.
 

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kong1971 said:
If he abused his position as governor, he should resign. Playing tiddly-winks with an employee is one thing, but wasting 100 grand a year to play tiddly-winks is another! He should have just hired his fuck buddy as a secretary instead! It's the gross amount of money the man was being paid that's the scandal, I think, not so much that they were pulling each others puds.
LOL, you have a way with words Kong.
 

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jGman said:
Personally, I don't care if he was fucking sheep. That's his own business, and he and his family have to deal with that part of it.

But I believe the guy was hired to be in charge of the NJ division of homeland security. That's a problem, especially considering the proximity of NJ to NY.
exactly. i believe i heard somewhere that the FBI or some federal defense agency didn't even want to cooperate with him b/c they knew how unqualified he was.
 

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what i want to know is how did he do it? how did he fool his two wives? it just doesn't make sense. how could he have two kids? if he is gay, how did he perform in bed all those years? i don't get it.
 

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Clinton had an affair. Do you want to hang him too? What about Kennedy and the others we probably do not know about?
Hang those fucks too.

JFK should be here today, the drunk redfaced kennedy who left a girl for dead in a car accident should be dead today, and Bill Clinton should of been impeached and sent to jail, today.

All I can say is affairs and other scandals have NO place in the offices of the OUR land. The offices should be held by people that are role models and do something about their state/country.

*rant off*

Just because everyone does it or SUPPOSEDLY does it, does not mean the penalty and scorn should be any less.
 
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gorillaunit said:
what i want to know is how did he do it? how did he fool his two wives? it just doesn't make sense. how could he have two kids? if he is gay, how did he perform in bed all those years? i don't get it.
He's probably bi and has been forced into coming out as gay by our media and culture. Most people don't understand bisexuality and how you can honestly be both ways at the same time. Straights don't get it. Gays don't get it. I don't think even bi's understand it themselves and feel that they must deny one side or the other side to "fit in". Most people think you have to be one way or another.
 
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Hmm, Eisenhower had a mistress, ditto FDR, LBJ, more that I can't even remember. How a man deals with his marriage and personal relationships isn't a breach of the public trust in my opinion. It's more of an embarassment to me that the public obsesses over thier sex lives to such a degree. It's pathetic really.

I also think it's funny that you guys see 100,000 dollars inappropriately used as a scandalous amount. If only you knew the inner workings of government waste . . . That's such a small drop in the ocean I don't begrudge it to the guy. Honestly, that amount doesn't even place a fraction of a cent tax burden on anybody. Giving his friend a security position was quite out of line on the other hand, but 100,000 dollars, is truly nothing in the world of waste. At that level of government I'd equate the criminality level to something like undertipping a waitress. Right now his political opponents, who know better, are publicizing the salary figure to outrage the public, who don't know better, for political gain. They want him to step down immediately and so they're scandalizing people with the mighty "100,000!!!" or whatever it is salary thing. It has appearently been quite an effective hype tool.
 

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stiff4ever4u said:
He had an affair. Okay, a gay affair. Big deal. Clinton had an affair. Do you want to hang him too? What about Kennedy and the others we probably do not know about?

A blatant misuse of tax dollars? Do you think they were paying for KY Jelly and Trojans with NJ State issued checks? I mean the guy was an employee of the state. Maybe unqualified, but hey, aren't most gov't employees exactly that?
I love how Democrats don't see this as a problem, but if NJ had fallen prey to a terrrorist attack under this guy's watch, they would all be demanding investigations into the Bush administartion for not catching all the warning signs.

I guarantee this guy resigned, at least in part, so John Kerry wouldn't have to be seen with him when he campaigns in NJ; don't get me wrong, I'm sure it would be the same if he were Republican.

And as for $100,000 being a drop in the hat, it takes my wife 3 years to earn that much, and she is a VERY qualified accountant. Another way to look at it: All the taxes I've had to pay for the last several years are equal to what was thrown away to appease this guy's fuck buddy. Fuck that shit. I gladly pay taxes to keep this state/country strong, but not so the governor or president or any other elected leader can keep his ready-fuck at his right hand 24/7. That's not right, my wife and child have to get by on less than the best (clothes, cars, house, eating out, etc.) due in large part to us being middle class and paying our fair share of taxes, and this guys chucks tax money down the tube. Don't tell me it's no big deal. Government waste agitates the shit out of me in all forms, and this is no exception; don't try to gloss it over.
 
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Friends, I'm not glossing anything over, I am aware that 100,000 is a lot of money to most individuals, hence the effectiveness of publicizing the number. It pisses people off! What I tried to emphasize, is that on the world of government waste, that is a tiny, nearly microscopic figure. There are countless positions, programs, spending bills, pork barrel initiatives, acnient regulatory codes, poorly planned contracting schemes, mismanaged infrastructures, bungled budget allotments, that masically tally towards the billions of mispent dollars for every state.

Texan, take 100,000 and divide it by the population of texas. Not a large figure eh? Do some research into delayed public works and restoration in your state, check out how many millions have been pumped into barely functional programs and agencies, take a loot at the the number of administrators and payrolls that various government organizations have. State and federal government is bloated and wasteful, the whole system is basically designed to perpetuate and maintain this standard at the moment, status quo as it were. I'm not glossing anything over, I'm trying to make the point that in reality, 100,000 isn't shit when you're talking about wasteful government spending, and it didn't impact the lives of any New Jersey citizens in a harmful way.
 

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Swank, I understand what you are saying. No, $100k is not that much in the grand scheme of government budgets, and I know there are a ton of "projects" that get funded that are bullshit. All I'm saying is that just because it's only a $100k doesn't make it excusable or blasse. It's still wrong and these things really piss me off. I was just putting that number into perspective as it relates to my family's earnings and the taxes we pay on an individual basis. Really, you take a hardworking middleclass family in NJ and that guy's salary probably negated the taxes they've paid (read personal finacial sacrifice for the common good) for the last five years or so. These things are much more troublesome when you consider them in the context of your individual or familial existence.
 
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Texan - I agree, I'm not advocating the waste, just more stating that it's more or less a fact of life. I'm not Mcgreevey's biggest fan, but I feel for the guy, so I hate seeing him demonized over that. There are much, much larger, as well as fully legal, wastes of tax money going on at all times that tearing the guy apart over the 100,000 is rough. Perhaps I am just steamed because the GOP is using it as a political tool, when in fact they're the chronic overspenders and wasters in New Jersey to a great degree.
 

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The hanging part was a figure of speech from an old commercial when a cowboy forgot to bring the (HP/Bullseye) sauce.

I wouldnt really want to hang him, but severly punish him would be a good start. All sorts of shit like that is happening in Canada and it makes me want to puke. Politicians have no respect when spending other peoples money, that kind of misuse (mis-appropriation) is a slap to the taxpayers faces.
 
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