For The PE Doubters, Ponder This...

This is a topic I've shared about in the past, under my other SN ''stillwantmore''. Long story, nother day. Anyway, the point of this thread is to throw this out there. The penis is in fact just a small bundle of skin, veins, a small artery or two, and some other tissues. Bottom line? A penis is a penis is a penis. Skin and tissue vary VERY minutely. There are of course natural variations in size and therefor the amount of tissue in a given penis, but they are in fact all the SAME otherwise from a purely physiological, and biological standpoint. That said, how could you NOT believe you can make your penis bigger permanently??? Look at these two pictures first:

Lip stretching (Penis EnlargementRMANENT)



One of the MORE disturbing 'body mod' trends I see these days, the ear stretchers...really, what will they do when they are EIGHTY???



THEN, there's the fairly new (within the last couple decades) medical practice of stretching (permanently) a LIMB. The leg is the most common. Either because of a severe injury, a birth defect, or merely a desire to be taller (as in China where there is great cultural pressure and demand for TALLER people). Look at this story. This young man, at the time of this article 19 y.o.; back then just a baby, was born with a severely mal-formed and much shorter leg. Through limb lengthening over several years, his leg is now it's normal length. His femur was cut in two places, and then this adjustable ''cage'' was bolted through the femur into his leg. He'd turn small knobs on the cage a little EVERY DAY (consistently stretched over time), and the tissues are slowly, permanently stretched.

Baby Michael



As a boy



At time of article, at 19



From the article about his story

Ever since he was a small boy, Michael Gays has dreaded his bedtime.
While other children nodded off to their sweet dreams, he had to sit and turn the screws on the metal cage that stretched his withered right leg.
Sometimes during the ten long years of treatment, the pain was so bad that he had to have morphine. But not once did he shirk from his task.
Yesterday, that courage paid off. Michael, now 19, stood tall for the first time on two legs of identical length.
His right limb has been lengthened an incredible nine inches (!!!!), after 22 operations including three in which his leg was broken.

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So breaking it down simply...the LEG of a human being is probably 30X or more more DENSE with tissue than a Penis EnlargementNIS...yet many of us can't seem to figure out how to enlarge ours. I think many factors are involved, but over the last....roughly 9 years of witnessing MANY, MANY first hand testimonies, and from my own personal experience with successful gains, I conclude outside of the ''other'' unknowns the main three culprits for no gains to be mainly:

1) Little consistency.

2) Not enough force (either laterally or girth wise).

3) Lack of a real sense of dedication to the effort...which goes back to number 1.

Now, I hope this thread has somewhat inspired some guys, and maybe some of the brainier types will chime in with their thoughts as well.

These images should make EVERYONE realize the simplicity of Penis Enlargement. In some cases medical doctors are elongating bone, growing tissue, expanding tissue, etc. The ear is a great model to see how much can be done to gain size.

As Still said

1) Be consistent, even during slow times

2) Use Maximum Intensity

3) Motivation and Belief will be your best tools

Here's a pic & comment from an old-ass post of mine. Still haven't found the "better picture".



Take a look, Johnny Unitas. His shoulders are pretty much even, but look at the extra length of his hurling arm. And it got so that by the end of his career his right arm was a full hand length longer than his left. If I can find a better pic, I'll send it.

But it just goes to show what can stretch and by just how much.
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Excellent post stillwantmore. I hope everyone that has doubts about Penis Enlargement sees this thread. The pictures basically speeks for themselves about wether penis enlargement is possible.

MAXAMEYES;363985 said:

Here's a pic & comment from an old-ass post of mine. Still haven't found the "better picture".



Take a look, Johnny Unitas. His shoulders are pretty much even, but look at the extra length of his hurling arm. And it got so that by the end of his career his right arm was a full hand length longer than his left. If I can find a better pic, I'll send it.

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Now that is an ODD case in my opinion. No injuries or deformities, or other ''defects'' were known to exist in the longer arm? I'm just perplexed how the throwing arm got longer over time with the bones remaining in tact. Unlike in the leg lengthening surgery where the femur is severed and the bone ''re fuses'' and fills the gaps made by the stretching cage. ?

Dude, ya got me. I have no idea at all of the mechanics of it.
Even though I can't seem to find one (actually I kinda forgot completely about looking for it, to be honest) I've seen a picture of Unitas late in age and his right wrist sits about parallel with his left fingertips.

Not only was his arm longer, but his right hand was considerably larger than his left, kinda like a carpenter's of lumberjack's...well, before everything became powered.

I don't doubt Penis Enlargement, but there are some members on here who post pictures which are obviously edited, now I know DLD is not one of these ppl, I have seen his cock in the dvd, but other members, I will not mention any names, have images of their dick which is totally fake, you can tell because the penis and stomach is enlarged by editing, while the rest of the body is small, like legs ..

Love this thread!!!

Thats just a part of life. People want to fear the unknown. Guys who dont want to do Penis Enlargement and are not comfortable about there size will do there best to steer people like us away from this effective lifestyle choice. Its a jealous and also competitive nature of others not wanting to see others achieve something.

I hear my buddies talk to each other about there size to each other before. And it was so hard for me not to burst into a laugh from how much your ego will make you lie about it. One of those same buddies I trust very well and I told him how it works and he said "oh that not for me i dont need it, it doesnt work dont waste your time."

About a month later I was surfing the web on his labtop and there was a saved tab of �other forum� on there. And still till today I have never told him I seen it but I bring up Penis Enlargement and he says the same thing.

There plenty as well who so it doesnt work but they have no proof. Doctors and others in that field have a closed minded approach on everything. Also so many can hurt them selves so doctors take the safe road by saying it doesnt work instead of saying you can hurt yourself so be very careful. They dont want to get there hands messy(no pun intended....messy=wet jelq,edging,etc.) If they have people doing stuff wrong there the bad guy so remove any chance of them from getting in trouble. Also there is no money in it for them.

Maybe if we train our penis to throw a ball it will get longer

I tried that...made my balls hurt

MAXAMEYES;364108 said:

I tried that...made my balls hurt

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the penis can be made bigger but would it be softer as a result? many chemical balances display themselves in the penis which do not occur in bone and skin which are simpler in function.

crazy-horse;364132 said:

the penis can be made bigger but would it be softer as a result? many chemical balances display themselves in the penis which do not occur in bone and skin which are simpler in function.

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What do you base that on? Some literature you can link???

I just have to ask. I've made my penis around 2 inches longer, and 1.25 inches bigger in girth and it's as rock hard as ever when erect. Many guys have made bigger gains and report the same thing. As long as the nerves remain intact and have time to adapt to the new size, there should be no detrimental effect. Bone is simpler in function?? You don't know anatomy very well. Bone is a very complicated organ actually. Among providing support for the body, protection for the organs, and producing red blood cells, it is constantly de-constructing, and re-constructing itself....among other functions.

Want_that_gain;364091 said:

I don't doubt Penis Enlargement, but there are some members on here who post pictures which are obviously edited, now I know DLD is not one of these ppl, I have seen his cock in the dvd, but other members, I will not mention any names, have images of their dick which is totally fake, you can tell because the penis and stomach is enlarged by editing, while the rest of the body is small, like legs ..

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Yea, true. Similar happens elsewhere on the net.

swm2, What is the penis composed of then?

Should I train it with "less is more"(more recovery,etc.) or "more is more"(Train as much as possible) approach?

Making the penis longer can break down the penile tissues causing them to rebuild with more collogen and a hardening of penile blood vessels making them less flexible which makes it harder for one to get an erection. Thats why warming the penis prior to Penis Enlargement is advised.
Also have you considered that lengthening the penile tendon may also lower the erection angle which is a negative.
If you have experienced harder erections then it must be due to edging and clamping.
you have also gained length, but has it lowered your erection angle?

Making the penis longer can break down the penile tissues causing them to rebuild with more collogen and a hardening of penile blood vessels making them less flexible which makes it harder for one to get an erection.

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This is Penis Enlargement theory craft. I've yet to see, or hear in over NINE YEARS of my active involvement on various Penis Enlargement forums, and reading testimonies, even meeting fellow Penis Enlargement'rs in person...and none have reported such things. I doubt even a licensed, practicing urologist could prove this. I've done things to my penis that surely by now ''should'' have done what you said...surely. Countless hours of clamping, hundreds of hours of hanging weights. I have no hard blood vessels, no ''toughened'' tissues. My penis is still soft as it should be when flaccid.

Thats why warming the penis prior to Penis Enlargement is advised.

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By who? Penis Enlargement paysite retailers?? LOL. Again, theory craft. I've never in NINE YEARS seen conclusive proof that warming the penis provided any benefit either just from a physiological perspective, or to aid Penis Enlargement. Warming up sounds good on paper, but again...no solid proof it adds a benefit, or speeds up gains.

Also have you considered that lengthening the penile tendon may also lower the erection angle which is a negative.

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Again, says who?? SEVERING the suspensory LIGAMENT (not a tendon) can lower erection angle, but lengthening it has not been shown to. Not that I have been able to see, or find. I've added a little over 2'' in length to my penis so far...and my erection angle is still above 90 degrees from my abdomen.

If you have experienced harder erections then it must be due to edging and clamping.

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Is this just another speculation of yours? I'm just trying to figure where you're coming from. It does not sound like from personal experience. Harder erections (from a urology perspective) come from a healthy blood flow to the penis. Expanding the tissues such as in jelqing, clamping, other girth work is bound to improve blood flow.

Not trying to sound insulting, I've just been around. I can smell speculation vs actual experience.

Damn lay down the law SWM, Please help with my question above post #15.

Girth Hammer;364231 said:

swm2, What is the penis composed of then?

Should I train it with "less is more"(more recovery,etc.) or "more is more"(Train as much as possible) approach?

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From my experience, my penis responded best to girth work when I trained daily for at least 30-45. The penis is basically skin, veins, some small ligaments, spongy tissue.

Thanks for the advice.