Fluff Talk


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Jun 4, 2003
"Fluff Talk"
Fluff talk is an important part of approaching a girl, especially if you plan to launch into patterns, which you can't begin the conversation with on their own. Fluff talk is also needed, if you plan to continue with eliciting values - you must have had at least some sort of a casual conversation with the girl, for then it would sound only natural for you to have become a little more interested in her, to the point of asking all sorts of questions.

The number one rule of fluff talk is - direct the conversation towards and talk about FEELINGS. What fluff talk usually ends up being is an exchange of facts - "Where ya goin?", "Whatcha doin?", "what did you do today/yesterday?", "Oh, that's interesting". Facts are a BORE! Giving you her facts makes her feel NOTHING. Neither has she any use for the facts you are giving her. So grab any opportunity you have to get to feelings!

"So what did you do yesterday?"

"Oh I went skating"

"You like skating?"


"Makes you feel good?"


"I know what you mean..."

And you go on to describe skating as the most liberating, beautiful, earth-shattering experience (that's what making up patterns on the fly is all about). Or have her describe you her feelings herself, if she is a talker. Voila - you've switched from fluff talk to patterning in a blink of an eye.

She feels enthralled. But you don't know how to follow up on that. So let the fluff talk continue.

"So... em... have you eaten anything today?"

"Yea, some sandwiches in the morning. Why?"

"Well I was just hoping to pick up on some tips on how to have a delicious breakfast without having to spend too much time making it So you like sandwiches?"

"Um... not really, I just don't have time for much anything else"
"But if you did, let's say you had your own personal cook, what would you like to start your morning with?"

"Oh, well (salivating), fried eggs and bacon, and a large cup of hot chocolate, and some marmalade (etc, let her describe it to her heart's content:)"

"Ah, that would really feel good wouldn’t it? Still lazily laying in your bed, to have all that delicious food brought to you on a silver tray - you take a sip of cocoa and can feel the pleasant warmth of it spreading throughout your body, which after a good-night's sleep is more fresh and receptive to the pleasantness of that feeling than usual, and you take a taste of marmalade and can feel it melting in your mouth and the sweetness of it waking you up for yet another wonderful day." (etc, now make good use of all the food she HERSELF told you she likes)

Once again - fluff talk to pattern talk in no time

So the ability to fluff talk is essential, but not any kind of fluff talk will do. She can exchange facts with a million guys and not feel a thing. Or, she can give her facts to you and get a wonderful return on it But remember - FEELINGS

"So, what's *your* story?"
A less feelings oriented and a more free-flowing approach to fluff-talk. By James L. King III,ASF:

""So, what's *your* story?" - this is wonderful question that will get the other party talking. It's a good intro, or it can be used right after an opening line.

I've used it several times to great effect, as the line usually gets women talking about how they got to the party, or what they do for a living, or about how they know the host, or why they chose to strip for a living. I learn a lot by paying attention to the subject matter of their answer. If it's about what they do for a living, then you know that's something important to them ... rapport material handed on a platter. If the woman doesn't mind sharing personal things about herself with you, this opening gives her the perfect opportunity, while at the same time allowing those women who are more reserved a chance to come up with something more benign, like "I'm a friend of the host."

If they respond by not answering or looking dazed and confused or by saying that question makes them uncomfortable, I move on to someone else. People like that are no fun anyway, no matter how beautiful they may appear.

Always be prepared to mirror the statements they give you ... if they reveal something personal about themselves, you can reveal something that's personal to you .. perhaps not the same thing, but something similar. This will feed the rapport between you as a relationship begins to develop. (This is also a good time to start your patterning language, if you don't do it naturally and turn it on or off as needed.)

Also, if things aren't progressing so well with one person, remember that mingling means moving around ... don't stay with one person so long, otherwise you're not mingling. You can always return later.

You can use the "story" approach not only with the person, but with accessories or special clothing the woman is wearing: examining a beautiful necklace, you can ask "so, what's the story behind the necklace?"

The story approach doesn't work with un-special clothing: "So, what's the story behind those Levi's?" doesn't work as well as "So, what's the story behind that gorgeous hand-knit scarf?"

Fluff talk is the stuff you use to segue into more pattern-like conversation.

You can't just say:

I love ice cream. It’s the perfect synergy of taste and touch. The coldness shocks you at first, but the flavor begins to overwhelm your taste buds. After you take your first lick, you can't stop. Your desire for more ice cream is insatiable until you find yourself lapping up the last few bits of it.

You have to preface it with more casual, shallow conversation first. One of my favorite questions to ask a girl is: “what is your favorite flavor of ice cream?” (You can tell a lot about a girl from their response). Stay on that topic for a while, gradually moving into deeper levels of conversation.

You can't do this in two minutes. It usually takes quite a while to develop the rapport to run a strong pattern. (15 mins-half an hour seems to be an average for most of us). Fluff allows you to get information from her, as well as begin to develop rapport BEFORE you run a pattern.

If you are having trouble understanding the concept of 'levels of conversation', I highly suggest you read Conversationally Speaking.

Remember the orders, fluff comes right after the opener, and patterning is further down the list.

You can segway into patterning VIA fluff-talk. Mixing both is disastrous, as the conversation will seem unnatural and planned if you jump straight into patterning, without the low level conversation first.

Everyone has their styles but a good rule of thumb with fluff talk is she should be doing most of it:-

Her Chat 70%
You 30%

Your Open-ended Questions 10 %
Stories 10%
C+F Responses/role-playing to her questions 10%

The main reasons for this is
1.) You want to gather Info on her, especially for patterning.
2.) The less you talk the more intrigue for her as you fend off her qualifying questions with C+F , bull busting and riposte questions
3.) Gives you more time to think and to lead the conversation where you want it to go.

IMO It's okay to have a normal convo as long as it's about positive feelings but always keep the sexual tension going.

Oh and I'm still slapping my stupid head for somehow getting involved in a conversation on Iraq and Immigration policy, of all things, last night with a UG. It’s bad juju for the sub-conscious.

Most people use fluff talk from the very beginning, but they have a goal in mind: To find out what she loves, or what interests her. Questions such as “What is it about your "work" that fulfills you?” I'll then take her answer and ask “What about "her answer" fascinates you? “

These are her maps of the world.

The Don’ts of Fluff Talk:
• Do not talk about any of your personal (family, work, money) problems.

• Don't act desperate.

• Don't talk about anything negative at all. Keep everything you talk about upbeat and positive.

• Don't get drunk. This really turns women off and makes a bad impression. Don't drink at all or limit your drinking to a couple of drinks.

• Don't try to analyze her problems.

• Don't bitch about your previous girlfriends or ex-wives on how they mistreated you, dumped you, cheated on you, took you to the cleaners on child support, etc.

• Don't pretend to be funny or humorous. If you are putting on an act, it will come across to her as phony. Just be friendly and smile (but in appropriate doses, avoid having a grin on your face ALL THE TIME, guys that are smiling for hours in a row look terribly insecure and just plain pathetic).

• Don't focus on your health problems or ailments.

• Don't brag about yourself and your accomplishments. There are exceptions though, but try to be careful about them. If you really have something impressive to talk about, you can let her in on it, just try to be real casual about it. On the whole, women are very good at sniffing out when the male is trying to impress them by bragging. And if what he is bragging about is not really that impressive, it's a complete turn-off. So be careful. Focusing on her and her interests is a far safer route to take.

• And at all costs, avoid these three themes: politics, religion and conspiracy theories. These are guaranteed to nuke your otherwise wonderful interaction

The following comes in handy, if truly NOTHING comes to mind after having applied the 3s rule. It is of course more recommended, that you think this all through before having approached, just try to limit your thinking to… preferably no more than 3 seconds:) No, I'm not an evangelist, its just that the more you wait, the bigger chances there are that she'll leave, someone else will join her for a conversation, you start sweating and eventually chicken out, circumstances change etc. ASF:

1. Ask some kind of OPenis EnlargementN ENDED approach question (it will normally begin with the word 'what').

2. Have at least one other OPenis EnlargementN ENDED follow up question, preferably more than one, to defend you against stalling.

3. By the time you've reached this stage. providing your questions were interesting enough, you are "in conversation"

Before point 1) above, you are a stranger & the woman is wary of you. At point 2) she's still wary, but talking. By the time you've hit point 3) - and it doesn't matter if it's one woman or a group - she/they have more or less accepted you and seem to drop their barriers a lot. All in a couple of minutes.

To continue. If the HB is a talker, paraphrase her and ask intelligent questions. Then ask some cheeky questions, maybe neg hit & get some of your own stuff in. If she's a listener, you'd better have something ready to talk about [or you're gonna CRASH and BURN] - a tale or two about your interesting and humorous exploits (laced with SS of course) that moves gently from being innocent into being more and more risqué. Throw in negs if you need."

Credit: http://fastseduction.com

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