Eugene Armstrong Beheaded Video

pr0to

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holy shit I want to cry now. =(

how can people do that to one another... =(
 

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After seeing the first one I think I'll skip watching it.
 
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Hmm how can he still sound when they cut hos vocal cord off?
That movie seemed a bit fake in my eyes, but it might be real. Who was the guy more then Eugene Armstrong? I mean what did he do for a living?
 

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GhosT_DoGG said:
Hmm how can he still sound when they cut hos vocal cord off?
That movie seemed a bit fake in my eyes, but it might be real. Who was the guy more then Eugene Armstrong? I mean what did he do for a living?
There's no doubt they found him beheaded. I think the sounds you hear are also the terrorists chanting to Allah. Also, they way they've been cutting off their heads, it's not a clean, quick cut; more of a sawing motion. So, I believe the major organs -- lungs, heart, etc. -- still continue to work somewhat.

I really can't believe a human being can do that to another human being.
 

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"I really can't believe a human being can do that to another human being."

Its not its a sick sadistic inbred spineless coward hiding behind a mask,and when they find these worms I hope they give them the slowest most painful death they deserve ...oh yah right what am I thinking someone in the western world would say thats not fare and tax payers would make some lawyer rich defending this trash..sorry my bad :s
 

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the grinch said:
"I really can't believe a human being can do that to another human being."

Its not its a sick sadistic inbred spineless coward hiding behind a mask,and when they find these worms I hope they give them the slowest most painful death they deserve ...oh yah right what am I thinking someone in the western world would say thats not fare and tax payers would make some lawyer rich defending this trash..sorry my bad :s
Grinch, fortunately what we are trying to defend is freedom and human rights for all. As tempting as it is to hate these people to the point of wanting to see them tortured, it is equally as wrong. It's unfair, but a civilized community MUST give them due process and if found guilty, a humane sentence lest we be hypocritical. And too, no lawyer is going to get rich defending these people. First and foremost, the majority of lawyers get a much lower salary than most people think. Secondly, they don't want to defend these men any more than you do - but it's their job. It's their responsibility to help us defend due process, and in that I commend them for defending these people.

What are we trying to defend if not the right to freedom and the pursuit of happiness for all?
 

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as much as I agree with everyone comments I also must think about this guy being forewarned and even asked to leave. he phoned home and for released and went back to work. he knew the chances of losing his life were possible and he chose to stay. It is sad how he lost his life but he made his choices.
 

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When I saw the "first" be-heading it was was something I did not really think I needed to see but after visiting www.ogrish.com I gotta tell ya gore stuff does not bother me at all and I think alot more about the people this is happening to it is soo sad.
 

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Silence said:
damnit i wanna see,the video isnt working nomore
I thought I wanted to see it too. Consider yourself lucky.
 

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Grinch, fortunately what we are trying to defend is freedom and human rights for all. As tempting as it is to hate these people to the point of wanting to see them tortured, it is equally as wrong. It's unfair, but a civilized community MUST give them due process and if found guilty, a humane sentence lest we be hypocritical. And too, no lawyer is going to get rich defending these people. First and foremost, the majority of lawyers get a much lower salary than most people think. Secondly, they don't want to defend these men any more than you do - but it's their job. It's their responsibility to help us defend due process, and in that I commend them for defending these people.
Alright, this is too much. I will tell you what, I do hate these people, and I would support torture. AND NO! IT ISN'T EQUALLY AS WRONG. You tell me what Eugene Armstrong did to deserve this? NOT A DAMN THING. You know, it gets me pissed off when an innocent person dies, and some hippie thinks they deserve due process of law. Forget all that lawyer crap. How black and white is this? THE MAN WAS INNOCENT! And they are not, because they beheaded him. These people are not human beings, so stop referring them as such. Human beings do not do this to one another. Animals and insects, savages can do this. And that is what these people are. And as for defending "these men"... I'd rather go to jail than defend something as lowly as those people.
 

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I haven't watched a single beheading video so far.. and I ain't about to start now.

As I've said before, I don't think it's healthy to saturate your psyche with this kind of stuff. Once you become desensitized to it you know you are walking on dangerous territory.

Don't fuck with your mental health guys- don't watch this sick shit. I'm glad I didn't, because just reading the descriptions you have put in this thread is enough to make me feel sick.
 

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Alright, this is too much. I will tell you what, I do hate these people, and I would support torture. AND NO! IT ISN'T EQUALLY AS WRONG. You tell me what Eugene Armstrong did to deserve this? NOT A DAMN THING. You know, it gets me pissed off when an innocent person dies, and some hippie thinks they deserve due process of law. Forget all that lawyer crap. How black and white is this? THE MAN WAS INNOCENT! And they are not, because they beheaded him. These people are not human beings, so stop referring them as such. Human beings do not do this to one another. Animals and insects, savages can do this. And that is what these people are. And as for defending "these men"... I'd rather go to jail than defend something as lowly as those people.
It's funny to see answers like this. It's amazing how many people get by without being able to tactictly debate and be at least slightly empathetic. Maybe I am a hippie - if a hippie is defined by someone who is interested in freedom and human rights for all.

Let me explain why due process is important to you, to me, to Eugene Armstrong, and to the men who believed it was necessary to behead him. First of all, it's important to all for the reason of everyone else to become empathetic. It's not black and white. To you, it may appear to be a cold blooded killing. To them, it may be doing something revolutionary to protect what is valuable to them. Have you ever heard of Saul Alinsky? He has written a few books directing radicals towards social change. He states very astutely that in certain circumstances morals can and should be sacrificed to achieve that social upheaval. In any event, should you be a citizen of Iraq, you may not see the killings as so black and white. How does this relate to due process? It allows us to further understand this grey area.

Due process is important to the alleged killers. If the US allowed soldiers to run rampant killing everyone they THOUGHT was involved with terrorist acts - it would probably suprise even you how many innocent people would get killed (murdered, by your definition.) Due process protects innocent people. It protects you. For all I know you are one of the men in the masks. Maybe it's me. If we weren't given due process we may both be dead just for me posting the possibility.

And torture? You have got to be kidding here. Do you see yourself as a moral person? There are other ways to influence future murders/killings/terrorist acts without lowering ourselves to that level. Part of being a member of high minded society is acting like it. That means that even the worst of the killers deserves to be treated humanely. The jailing of the soldiers involved with the prison torture scandal is an example of the US maintaining it's freedom and respect for human rights for all.

So maybe I am a hippie. But I am a hippie that is going to protect YOU AND YOUR RIGHTS if you were ever accused, or even convicted of horrible crimes.
 

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As I've said before, I don't think it's healthy to saturate your psyche with this kind of stuff. Once you become desensitized to it you know you are walking on dangerous territory.
I'm on the otherside. I think if no one sees these videos , you'll produce a society that has already forgotten 9/11, and believes that terrorism is fake. These videos should be watched, so people who are against the War on Terrorism will see who are enemy is, and what he is doing. We don't live in a pre-9/11 era anymore, these people are taking innocent people and beheading them, and everyone should know this.

without being able to tactictly debate and be at least slightly empathetic
What are you talking about? How can you be empathetic to someone who just beheaded your innocent countryman? After 9/11, are we to sit in America and evaluate what we did wrong, what we must have done to cause such hatred? America isn't the root of all evil, buddy.

To you, it may appear to be a cold blooded killing
This is making me crazy reading what you've typed! How delusional are you? It doesn't matter if they feel revolutionary, they took an innocent man, an infidel, and cut his head off! Due process of the law? You're going to waste my tax dollars trying a sub-human?

It allows us to further understand this grey area
I'm not understanding the grey area here. A civil engineer named Eugene Armstrong was beheaded because he was an infidel. It doesn't matter if they thought it was right or wrong, the guy was INNOCENT. If this was turned around, if an American knabbed some man off the street, made a video of his beheading, would he recieve due process of law from the terrorist?

Then you start talking about killing anyone we like, and I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that if we catch these people, and we know it is them, we kill them. Not go around and act like we think it is certain people and kill them. How many beheadings must happen, and how many times must you feel we need to evaluate and be "emphathetic" to the situation before you realize what is going on?

The jailing of the soldiers involved with the prison torture scandal is an example of the US maintaining it's freedom and respect for human rights for all
First off, there is a difference between puting underwear on a guilty mans head, or having a dog bark at him, compared to cutting an innocent mans head off. There is no equivalence. The moment they these men started cutting this innocent man's head off, was the moment they became sub-humans. Human's do not do that kind of stuff to one another. That is the type of thing insects do, animals will do!

So maybe I am a hippie. But I am a hippie that is going to protect YOU AND YOUR RIGHTS if you were ever accused, or even convicted of horrible crimes.
That is perfectly fine, thank you. But it becomes questionable when you want to offer due process of law to people who grab innocent, civilian Americans off the street and cut their heads off.
 

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I agree. To the American unwilling to step outside of their comfort zone and protect social liberties even if it means sounding like you enjoy that someone got killed - Armstrong being beheaded was a clear case of cold blooded murder and everyone believed to be involved in the murder should be tortured.

"I'm not understanding the grey area here. A civil engineer named Eugene Armstrong was beheaded because he was an infidel. It doesn't matter if they thought it was right or wrong, the guy was INNOCENT. If this was turned around, if an American knabbed some man off the street, made a video of his beheading, would he recieve due process of law from the terrorist?"

No he would not recieve due process. That's why we have soldiers dieing in Iraq - in the end, that is our goal. And grey area? Have you ever heard of Kohlberg's Moral Dilemmas? Do an internet search, you might suprise yourself. These men are experiencing the same dilemmas, but obviously to a much higher degree. It's difficult for be to believe you really, actually think these guys murder because they get a kick out of it.

We should agree to disagree. I've stated my points clearly and concisely and protected the liberty and human rights of all. It's unlikely that you are willing to take a moral stand against the unfortunate state of mind that you share with so many others here in America.

It's so wonderful that just by reading responses like yours every point I've made is confirmed.

And let no one get me wrong, it makes me sick to think this happens to people. But it's not worth sacrificing the reality of freedom and human rights by torturing these people and not giving them due process just to make me feel better about it.
 

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I dont advise anyone to watch this shit.
As you all know, I've been a fireman and now a Police Officer, I have SEEN alot of shit....murders, headless bodys before ect ect but this, well seeing the shit in action is so fuckin sick its unreal.
I cant belive what I saw, also if you get the FULL video , it has the theme music on it from that group, they sing in arab [obvious] and it sounds like a racist anthem, from my small bits of arab I know anyway, like the US and west is weak and we are gods army you shall be brought to death ect ect ect.
Also when the video begins, they have pictures during this anthem of the Penis EnlargementRSON being killed, in normal everyday activities...i.e he works alongside the US marines, so they have a picture of him shakeing US marines hand next to a tank, this slideshow carrys on with the anthem, for a few minutes than they come to what you see in the link on this thread........five sacks of shit stood-up with a poor soul in orange sat dowon on the floor.....background has that disgusting racist [IMHO] flag, its a big FUCK YOU to the whole west....its even filmed on its own in the full videos at the end next to the head....yeah cut off that is.

All this, the anthems....the slideshow pictures has GOT ME......not so much the actual beheading, but the coldness around it, like its a show....a show to the world to watch.

I think, these people need killing when their found.
Guys like AlloyCG can say what they like about us being hypocritical ect its their choice, their opinion and I respect that....this is myn, I have experience also with such wankers, and its not worth keepin them in a cell, wasting money on keepin them and putting them on trial......much better giving them a SLOW death, this isnt politically correct is it??? is that what some want??? really??? well the world isnt like that, the world is twisted, I see this alot and I mean ALOT in my line of work, and wanting these monsters dead doesnt make anyone a hypocrit or anything else....free speech and human rights LOL worse thing they ever did, I wish they got rid of that cos I could bash the criminals to a pulp than when I arrest them....O NO, I forgot, I'm now LIKE THEM ROFLMAO......no I'm not....I've simply had a TASTE of what they dishout.....YOU CANT and I mean CANT reason with such monsters, they only belive what they want to belive, they are warped with so much beliefs its comming outta their ears and arse.
Sure, I AGREE.....it would not at all seem right to shoot the wankers right off......all the goody goodys would CRY ''o no they shot one....we just as bad'' well FUCK ALL THAT, I belive in an eye for a fuckin eye, a tooth for a bastard tooth....if someone hurts my family of freinds, hes fuckin dead.....simple as, same ethics apply here.
The trial would last ages, cost ALOT of cash and the prison LOL would be a joke, I mean how the fuck do you house a rat ass like that????? a MASSIVE name in the prison, he will have to be isolated cos the others will eat him up, spit him out and piss on his goatee.
Its either, get the SAS to kill him and the other 4 where ever they find them [they do this and cover it up....GOOD ON THEM] Or make a room for each monster.
Eachroom would have a PIT in it, well a dungeon to be specific.
It would be 100ft deep, and have NO electric, NO lights, NO FUCK ALL......they would get reguler meals and can shit in a bucket which would be pulled up to the surface every few hours.
This is how they can live, I betcha they be dead in 4 years.......darkness KILLS the fuckin evil......us Brits did this as an OLE punisHydromaxent back in the days.
This is what I would do, leave him down their fead and watered but he gets NO SUN LIGHT EVER AGAIN.
I suppose, this wont ever happen cos of the rights bullshit and goody goody two shoes LOL and they say well you wouldnt be saying this if it were happening to you or your boys....well its already been done to us, we have had many people be-headed for fuckin shit.....this is the least they monsters deserve....the fuckin least.
I think someones ahem...*rights* go away when they CUT OFF someones fuckin head, and this person happens to be INNOCENT , okay not in their twisted minds he isnt, but we ALL know, or SHOULD all know he was innocent....wasnt a soldier, you would understand more if they were military cos they would be fighting against them, but they aint.....so IMHO doing such filth means your not a human being......humans dont act like this, cutting off heads.....its not normal, I mean what is normal? I know, but this> surely fuckin no.....tell me it isnt??? Human rights LOL they deserve FUCK ALL after that episode of evil, nuthing at all.....but they'll probably get spoilt and have it easy, cos were a soft touch in the west....in China a bullet in the head around the back of the court is enough.
But MARK my fuckin words, they are in a tight rope cos they aint that smart....all their net sites are being watched, everything is being watched, all security in the world has gone up on the net, so its a matter of timer before their caught sending bullshit to that wanker site......and the longer they keep bigley, the better chance the SAS will have of finding them........infact they might already know, and are waiting for the signal.
Its all a matter of time.....not when, but a matter of time.
 
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AlloyCG

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I think I'm only going to make enemies spreading my "soft" propaganda. =)
 

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You haven't made an enemy here AlloyCG. If someone were to torture them or kill them in a painful way then that person who has just done that to them is now one of 'them'. So then that person needs to be put to justice. Whether he's a part of the so-called 'law' or not. Karma comes back to you. And it hurts.
 
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