so kingsnake how would u go about reaching creep when pertaining to length if your routine doesnt include hanging?
 
kingsnake;355768 said:
Hey German Stallion, As far as the septum goes. It can stretch as well but not as fast as the rest of the penile tissue. This is why I think manual stretches should be held for 3 minutes instead of the normal 45 seconds to 1 minute. With each manual stretch being held this long, it gives all the tissue's in the penis time to relax and adapt to the stretch force being applied. Hanging will definently handle the time it takes the tissues to relax and deform since with hanging sets are normally 15-20 minutes.

I understand and agree. That is why a device such as a pipe or anthing that gives you a fulcrum when doing manual stretching is important. You can't hold long enough with just your hand. I have not started hanging again yet, but when I do I will go back to the lesser weight and then then give the muscle a chance to relax. When you put too much pressure or too much weight, I think..my opinion, you cause your natural 'protection mechanism" to kick in and not let it stretch.

GS
 
I agree German Stallion. Less weight in the beginning to relax the tissue under constant heat so the tissues protection mechanism doesn't activate and CREEP can set in.

Hey bossaline, To reach CREEP hanging is not needed. CREEP will set in as the tissue's in your penis become more relaxed with your manual stretching. Say you do 45 minutes of manual stretching holding each stretch for 45 seconds. For the first 5-10 minutes your dick will not stretch as far as it can and will try to retract. This is because the tissues are not yet relaxed to the stretch forces being applied. After 5-10 minutes your dick stretches further then it did in the begining of the session because after so much time under tension the tissues have relaxed and as more controlled tension is place on the tissues they will go into the CREEP phase and then the plastic phase. Keep in mind that with constant heat being applied, the tissue's of the tunica will relax quicker and deform more effectively with less strucural damage to the tunica.
 
yup just finished reading the 2nd page

you goota reach the eleasticity phase to fully understand what king snakes takn about
bout my routines is sumthin along the line of his.

but with Prussure not weights

p
 
kingsnake;356015 said:
I agree German Stallion. Less weight in the beginning to relax the tissue under constant heat so the tissues protection mechanism doesn't activate and CREEP can set in.

Hey bossaline, To reach CREEP hanging is not needed. CREEP will set in as the tissue's in your penis become more relaxed with your manual stretching. Say you do 45 minutes of manual stretching holding each stretch for 45 seconds. For the first 5-10 minutes your dick will not stretch as far as it can and will try to retract. This is because the tissues are not yet relaxed to the stretch forces being applied. After 5-10 minutes your dick stretches further then it did in the begining of the session because after so much time under tension the tissues have relaxed and as more controlled tension is place on the tissues they will go into the CREEP phase and then the plastic phase. Keep in mind that with constant heat being applied, the tissue's of the tunica will relax quicker and deform more effectively with less strucural damage to the tunica.
so lemme ask u this. after stretching my dick for 10 mins at 45 secs a pop, my hands are pretty worn out. can i take breaks in between stretches while i still have heat hitting my ligs?
 
If your hands are getting worn out after 10 mins of stretches then taking breaks in your session is fine. Remember it's the total time under tension that's important during the session. If your hands get tired after 10 minutes, take about 3-5 minutes of rest for you hands but keep the heat on your dick so the tissue's stay relaxed and pliable. One good benifit of your hands getting tired is if you keep it up you will have some strong ass hands and forearms. LOL.
 
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kingsnake;356393 said:
If your hands are getting worn out after 10 mins of stretches then taking breaks in your session is fine. Remember it's the total time under tension that's important during the session. If your hands get tired after 10 minutes, take about 3-5 minutes of rest for you hands but keep the heat on your dick so the tissue's stay relaxed and pliable. One good benifit of your hands getting tired is if you keep it up you will have some strong ass hands and forearms. LOL.
ok so do u have a pretty good idea as to how long it would take to reach creep if u increase your stretch intensity slowly? for instance i usually stretch in every direction at about 50 % intensity, then i go to 60% and so on until i stretch at full intensity.
 
kingsnake;356015 said:
I agree German Stallion. Less weight in the beginning to relax the tissue under constant heat so the tissues protection mechanism doesn't activate and CREEP can set in.

Hey bossaline, To reach CREEP hanging is not needed. CREEP will set in as the tissue's in your penis become more relaxed with your manual stretching. Say you do 45 minutes of manual stretching holding each stretch for 45 seconds. For the first 5-10 minutes your dick will not stretch as far as it can and will try to retract. This is because the tissues are not yet relaxed to the stretch forces being applied. After 5-10 minutes your dick stretches further then it did in the begining of the session because after so much time under tension the tissues have relaxed and as more controlled tension is place on the tissues they will go into the CREEP phase and then the plastic phase. Keep in mind that with constant heat being applied, the tissue's of the tunica will relax quicker and deform more effectively with less strucural damage to the tunica.
after going to those 2 links u suggested that we read, i dont think i'm going to be stretching at full intensity. it seems like its been proven that by stretching at low and medium intensity for longer periods of time with heat being applied is very effective at vs stretching at full intensity for short period of time.
 
I can't give you a set answer. I will all depend on the elasticity and ability for the tissues of your penis to be manipulated through strech forces and internal stretch forces.
 
Your advice on HEAT to your dick makes total since before and during sessions as I have done this but what about your warm down afterward? It seems like a must in your CREEP science.
 
As far as a warm down goes studies actually say that during the end of stretching and inducing plastic deformation of tissue coldness is actually recommended for the molecular changes in the tissue to stay that way as they cool. That info can be found in the two links I posted on the first page.
 
Are you saying use cold wrap afterwards? I used to dunk my unit into ice water after sessions but quit after no one here agreed with doing that. When I was doing it I noticed my unit would be plump the whole time. I hear guys say they turtle but it would be the other way around for me.
 
I personally don't use ice but when sports theorpist have there patients hold stretchs for 10-20 minutes at a time they often have the stretched area iced during the last stretching set. The ice solidifies the cell structure to stay in its plasticly deformed state while stretched so when the stretch force is gone gains will more likely stay.
 
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Hey kingsnake.

how do you typically position the heater when your doing manual length/girth work without it hitting the testicles? I would imagine from the top (?)
 
I usually have a cloth or shir covering up my balls so the intense heat doesn't hit them. I also have a hot rice sock just below my balls in between my balls and anus to heat up the inner penile tissue in that area. I do this because when i do my tunica hanging all of the inner penile tissue from the base all the way to my asshole is being stretch with constant force. Hopefully this will pull out a good amount of inner penis.
 
Hey kingsnake, I have been sick and my cock is in a dead state almost for almost 2 weeks. I cant even get fully erect right now at the moment. Because of that girth work is almost out the window right now. I figured I would just start a PC work out and do it during some bundled stretches.

But my question is do you think this will pre-fatigue or give me more elasticity for future girth gains when I jump back into it?

Im not a stretching type of guy since I wanting girth so bad and neglected it so its new to me. I have stretched maybe 5-10 min every once and awhile but never stuck with it.

P.S. You should start a "Ask's kingsnake thread". Your one of the guys that most of us here want to as questions to.
 
He Girthhammer. Sorry for the late response. While you are on a girth break I think it's a great idea to work on bundled stretches and pc work. I actually consider bundled stretches a form of girth work because you are stretching the tunica laterial and diagnolly in all directions. I am still trying to come up with an all day stretcher device that keeps your dick bundled in the process.

As far as a ask kingsnake thread I'm not sure if I have the right to open one up since I am just a regular member. If I get permisson from DLD or any other super moderator or administrator then I would be happy to create such a thread.
 
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