VoorheesXIII;617637 said:
I practice the 5x5x3 and find that if i jelq in between it tends to exagerate the donut effect as it's pushing toward it, but I've split my between sets of 5 minutes up into 2 minutes of jelqing 👌 and 3 x 1 minute slow squash jelqs, seems to remedy it for me 👍

Cool you found what worked for you. I believe that the way you are doing it will prove to be just as beneficial as DLDs original 5x5x3
 
Good to hear most can adhere to the 5x5x3 routine and now I can se there are variations in this also where some men can go longer in one area or another. The goal is to get as much temporary expansion as possible from internal tissue. Now, if some of this comes as fluid but also in tissue the user can still reap the benefits of the tissue expansion that "is" happening. I think that the discoloration issue is also pretty important and over the time we have practices the 5x5x3 method we have heard much less in the way of discoloration than in earlier times when men were pumping for long periods become very discolored. Sometime PE can be a broad stroke that encapsulates a large portion of men but there will always be exceptions that fall outside these lines. In any case the goal should always be a permanent enlargement with as little "tell tales" of the origin of our size, meaning "it looks like we were born with it."
 
yea i myself keep my sets to 3 mins when using my vacuum pump. longer leads to the doughnut for me.
 
youknowme123321;617748 said:
yea i myself keep my sets to 3 mins when using my vacuum pump. longer leads to the doughnut for me.

It seems like there are many guys who can go for all different times without fluid retention. I guess the smartest move would be to find the exact time retention starts and at that point working in jelqing for the same time. So if a guy can go 10 minutes in the tube, he should go 10 minutes in jelqing, while someone like you should do the same but for 3 minutes.
 
hi guys,
I dont get a lot of donut effect on bathmate, even doing sesseions of 20 min, but when i do manual pumps like jelq or ULI very hard i get a huge donut on my dick. I got scary at first time but as said in a few hours everything is fine.
(i keeping up whith master of size a few months ago-reason that i get a bathmate-, helping me a lot!! But i never posted nothing because im learning yet, but im glad to help with my short experience in PE )
 
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