The 90 day 2021 No Masturbation Challenge

I quit smoking over 20 years ago...best thing I've ever done (except the 'I gained 20 pounds in 20 minutes part')

Big Schwanz Acht;730022 said:

I quit smoking over 20 years ago...best thing I've ever done (except the 'I gained 20 pounds in 20 minutes part')

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That is not happening to me, thank Jesus! Last time I quit I gained over 100 pounds! One vice for another. I vape now also, which satisfies my desire to see smoke come from my mouth But the important word here is vice. It is so important that when a vice or habit is given up something positive takes it's place. The temptations and cravings will be so much easier to get past if a new, positive activity is added. As Big said above, weight gain is a major issue with quitting smoking so a great replacement would be cardio or some sort of exercise to keep the weight away. I only really was irritated for the first 2 weeks then it evened out. Today, I still have the desire to smoke, just like I still have the desire to fap out, the difference is I have become the mastered them, they no longer master me!

doublelongdaddy;730025 said:

That is not happening to me, thank Jesus! Last time I quit I gained over 100 pounds! One vice for another. I vape now also, which satisfies my desire to see smoke come from my mouth But the important word here is vice. It is so important that when a vice or habit is given up something positive takes it's place. The temptations and cravings will be so much easier to get past if a new, positive activity is added. As Big said above, weight gain is a major issue with quitting smoking so a great replacement would be cardio or some sort of exercise to keep the weight away. I only really was irritated for the first 2 weeks then it evened out. Today, I still have the desire to smoke, just like I still have the desire to fap out, the difference is I have become the mastered them, they no longer master me!

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I LOVE vaping and can discuss it for hours. Our lease agreement says no smoking in the house and I understand why. However I vape all the time in the house because it doesn't stink the place up.

I only buy tanks that I can build the coils myself. I did recently buy my wife a TFV8 Baby Beast and need to buy her some coils soon but that's it for tanks with prebuilt coils.

I also have been mixing my own liquid for almost 2 years. The first few months I mixed crap with very little flavor. Then I started learning how to layer flavors and now I mix some really good stuff. It's a ton cheaper to mix your own but you've got to put in the time to learn and do it. For $200 I can buy enough stuff to mix almost 2 gallons of liquid. You can spend $200 on "premium" liquid and maybe get just over 1 liter.

Okay enough of that, I'm rambling

cladre60;730074 said:

I LOVE vaping and can discuss it for hours. Our lease agreement says no smoking in the house and I understand why. However I vape all the time in the house because it doesn't stink the place up.

I only buy tanks that I can build the coils myself. I did recently buy my wife a TFV8 Baby Beast and need to buy her some coils soon but that's it for tanks with prebuilt coils.

I also have been mixing my own liquid for almost 2 years. The first few months I mixed crap with very little flavor. Then I started learning how to layer flavors and now I mix some really good stuff. It's a ton cheaper to mix your own but you've got to put in the time to learn and do it. For $200 I can buy enough stuff to mix almost 2 gallons of liquid. You can spend $200 on "premium" liquid and maybe get just over 1 liter.

Okay enough of that, I'm rambling

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You should check out my Son's best friends shop: https://www.facebook.com/Notoriousvapors/?pnref=lhc

and this: https://www.facebook.com/bckallday/?pnref=lhc

They are so into this it is crazy! They build their own mods. They create the best juice too! We print all their labels and T-shirts.

doublelongdaddy;730110 said:

You should check out my Son's best friends shop: https://www.facebook.com/Notoriousvapors/?pnref=lhc

and this: https://www.facebook.com/bckallday/?pnref=lhc

They are so into this it is crazy! They build their own mods. They create the best juice too! We print all their labels and T-shirts.

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I'll check it out.

I've built 2 boxes. The first was a series mechanical mod that I stuffed into a Sucrets box. It hits like a train.

The second was with a DNA75 chip and I set it up for 2 batteries instead of 1. If you didn't know the DNA chips are pretty much the pinnacle of vaping technology. I started doing temperature control builds as soon as I made that DNA box and absolutely loved it.

After 9 months of use the chip suffered a catastrophic failure and caught fire a week ago. I have some paperwork to print out that Evolv emailed me and they want the chip back so they can replace it. Excellent warranty from them.

I have come to the conclusion that without a steady release of every 2 weeks (for me) I become a monster! I got into a fight with someone yesterday. Today I lashed out at another guy and gave him the 3rd degree! I was frustrated from the moment I woke up until the second I went to bed. I spent my usual time in prayer or in the Brotherhood but I was angry, frustrated, short tempered, to the point of losing my temper. I came to the conclusion I need to erase every 2 weeks or I will cause more harm than good, maybe even worse!

The body is a strange thing and I know a lot about it. I have studied the connection between my mind and my sexuality and the things I either deprive myself of or (sometimes) overindulge in, both are dangerous more the latter. My penis, again, became more and more retracted and my scrotum tighter and tighter. I have had no stop sexual dreams (and smoking cigarettes as odd is that is) and thee dreams happen every night approaching the 14 day mark. I have gone beyond but at a cost. The cost, losing my tempter, making a fool of myself, quite possibly hurting someone, endless dreams of vice, days of unknown frustration, to th e point (believe it or not) I tell God the lesser of two evils is my lust over the aforementioned...He agreed.

I will again approach this goal starting new tomorrow. I think what I have gained, at least, is some self control and the ability to 'survive' without ����. These things may seem trivial but they are not IN THE LEAST! Masturbation is no fun to me unless I view certain material, probably similar with most men, so you won't find mw in the bathroom with my eyes closed imagining stuff when there is ����, tailored to my taste, that within 5 minute I can release and start again (if this be my cycle) again, every man will be different.

The definition of ���� is anything that brings masturbation, pretty simple. The type of material that will get me from 0-60 the fastest is easily accessible. After 2 weeks I can easily be satisfied with this. If I go right for this material I can get off in 2-8 minutes but if I start somewhere else I will become stuck on the internet for hours. This is not good and it makes the sin prolonged. I confessed before and after and I am forgiven but I am more curious about the nature of the sin that I committed. Why does my body demand this and when it does not get it in a certain time frame (14-18 days) why do I becomes angry and violent?

The answer will surface but in the meantime I am at day one.

Dang!! This time don't beat yourself up about it...Mother Nature always gets her way!!

Big Schwanz Acht;730290 said:

Dang!! This time don't beat yourself up about it...Mother Nature always gets her way!!

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Reread my post above.

The Christian side of this? I committed a sin, one I felt was less evil than the other. I am not pushing men one way or another, I am only telling the truth. I hate hurting Jesus but I hate even more when I become violent. A prayed for forgiveness, I am forgiven. I will start again. AMEN!

doublelongdaddy;730291 said:

Reread my post above.

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Sorry, I only saw Cosmo Kramer the 1st go-'round.

Science and Medicine know very little about the inner-workings of our brains, (and everyone's chemical makeup is different) so predicting/anticipating/circumventing what Nature's intended is a dangerous game of Endorphin Roulette. I akin this to a mobile over a child's crib...touch one unicorn and the elephant moves, steady the zebra and the giraffe goes ape (see what I did there, lol). If you put a stopper in something that's not designed to be corked, you'll eventually have an explosion. Much better to have many small tremors than an 8.6 quake
p.s. luv ya, man

haha I told ya is almost impossible,we will always be tempted,Its in your soul those needs are inside you, they are a desire you have.

Its something we want and need..GOD knows us all

I still have to go back to the "body was meant to do certain things so often" thing that others are saying. If God didn't intend for us to need a sexual release at certain intervals then our mentalities would not change when we go without that release. The problem is when it becomes an obsession, interferes with our regular lives or relationships, or damages us or others. That's when you cross the line from normal to glutton.

These cookies taste good. I'm going to eat a few.

That's okay.

I'm going to eat nothing but cookies. I'm 400lbs overweight, I'm diabetic now, my wife left me, I lost my job because I can't physically get there and do it, I can't take care of myself anymore....

We are hedonistic and rational (I'm speaking about men, women are, well who knows what they are). We will seek pleasure but when we abuse it then there's a problem.

In this case you became so sexually frustrated that you began taking it out on others. God obviously doesn't want you to do that. At the same time God doesn't want you watching ���� for 6 hours and masturbating the entire time.

Find your peaceful medium, where you're healthy and happy but not destroying yoursef.

And please, no matter what, do NOT feel riddled with guilt when you do masturbate. It will negatively impact you if you are ever in a relationship again.

I know you view things differently than I do in terms of what God does and doesn't want but I do know that God doesn't want you being hostile with others because you're refusing to masturbate. And even though we were created in his image we are still animals. We are imperfect creatures with certain biological functions that must occur. One of them for men is regular ejaculation. If I get to day 6 I am nonstop thinking about sex. If I get to day 8 or 9 I am physically uncomfortable. Not a crawling in my skin uncomfortable but urination isn't normal (frequent sudden urges) and I feel bloated inside. I will, without question, masturbate if that's my only option so I can feel comfortable again.

okay I'm rambling.....

A quick analogy could be about the no-fap is that it can build up your testosterone levels dangerously high; therefore the anger and other not-so-great things.

I know personally about the ���� thing, as in not so easy to just close your eyes, imagine something and masturbate. Perhaps by morning, when you have the morning wood (several times I've done this), but the release feels so different. Of course it's about the dopamine and other stuff releasing; with ���� the effect is much higher. Without the release might not feel so great; the inner wirings of our brains are so complicated!

On another health related side, if there's no ejaculation, there can be "acne" inside your penis, as in black heads and such. I read about this longer time ago, would take a moment to find the article, if someone is interested let me know.
Other more known part is about the prostate, so releasing few times a week is actually good for the prostate. I've had some occasions where I've gone several days without a release (I mean, often I release daily) and when I released I felt pain in my PC muscles! Thankfully it went away quite quick, but the first shock felt so strange.

I'm also rambling now.

Just wishing you all the best DLD; you're a shining light for many men and I hope in my heart for your and your loved one's best health, both physically and mentally.

Big Schwanz Acht;730294 said:

Sorry, I only saw Cosmo Kramer the 1st go-'round.

Science and Medicine know very little about the inner-workings of our brains, (and everyone's chemical makeup is different) so predicting/anticipating/circumventing what Nature's intended is a dangerous game of Endorphin Roulette. I akin this to a mobile over a child's crib...touch one unicorn and the elephant moves, steady the zebra and the giraffe goes ape (see what I did there, lol). If you put a stopper in something that's not designed to be corked, you'll eventually have an explosion. Much better to have many small tremors than an 8.6 quake
p.s. luv ya, man

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Very good analogy and the cork/explosion thing makes sense. You have been a great help and a guiding light on my journey. Sometimes the waters are calm and serene for me and I am a kind and nice person, trying to live like Jesus, but as those water become stormy I start to lose touch with this. I see myself becoming the old me, the one I hate, the one who has no care for anything but himself, the one I hate. And as Saint Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it." This really hits home for me because it is utterly true

LONGERDICK7+;730295 said:

haha I told ya is almost impossible,we will always be tempted,Its in your soul those needs are inside you, they are a desire you have.

Its something we want and need..GOD knows us all

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God has forgiven me but this does not give me license to go back to the old me, it only gives me more resolve to try harder and to find a better outlet, if possible. But God does know me, He knew I was going to do this before time even started! I am not perfect, I am a man and I will always makes mistakes. And as the good Salomon said, "For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief." So I will not wallow in the guilt of what I did, I willl accept Jesus forgiveness and allow this to show me my true state. And as the good apostle said "We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check." I also take a phrase from Kempt who said "Any man who say's he is without sin, the same man is a liar" So this sin not only proves me fallibility but it also exposes my current state, which is in constant need of improvement.

Do not justify you carnal desires through a revolving door of forgiveness as that is not how it works. With forgiveness there needs to be repentance and atonement and a sincere effort to correct ourselves. Yes, it is beautiful to have Jesus as our High Priest and a direct line to forgiveness, but let us also remember that deeds need to be done on our part to show repentance. If we are not truly sorry for what we have done there is no atonement for what can we atone for that we do not regret doing?

cladre60;730303 said:

I still have to go back to the "body was meant to do certain things so often" thing that others are saying. If God didn't intend for us to need a sexual release at certain intervals then our mentalities would not change when we go without that release. The problem is when it becomes an obsession, interferes with our regular lives or relationships, or damages us or others. That's when you cross the line from normal to glutton.

These cookies taste good. I'm going to eat a few.

That's okay.

I'm going to eat nothing but cookies. I'm 400lbs overweight, I'm diabetic now, my wife left me, I lost my job because I can't physically get there and do it, I can't take care of myself anymore....

We are hedonistic and rational (I'm speaking about men, women are, well who knows what they are). We will seek pleasure but when we abuse it then there's a problem.

In this case you became so sexually frustrated that you began taking it out on others. God obviously doesn't want you to do that. At the same time God doesn't want you watching ���� for 6 hours and masturbating the entire time.

Find your peaceful medium, where you're healthy and happy but not destroying yoursef.

And please, no matter what, do NOT feel riddled with guilt when you do masturbate. It will negatively impact you if you are ever in a relationship again.

I know you view things differently than I do in terms of what God does and doesn't want but I do know that God doesn't want you being hostile with others because you're refusing to masturbate. And even though we were created in his image we are still animals. We are imperfect creatures with certain biological functions that must occur. One of them for men is regular ejaculation. If I get to day 6 I am nonstop thinking about sex. If I get to day 8 or 9 I am physically uncomfortable. Not a crawling in my skin uncomfortable but urination isn't normal (frequent sudden urges) and I feel bloated inside. I will, without question, masturbate if that's my only option so I can feel comfortable again.

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Thank you for that and I have to say that this time I refuse to beat myself up, I am NOT wallowing in guilt or in anyway insulting my Lord by not accepting His full forgiveness. I feel convicted and determined to do better but I also feel the lowliness of my position, meaning I am never going to be perfect and seeing myself in the light of being lowly I can only get better. And as the great Saint John states " If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

arkailija;730322 said:

A quick analogy could be about the no-fap is that it can build up your testosterone levels dangerously high; therefore the anger and other not-so-great things.

I know personally about the ���� thing, as in not so easy to just close your eyes, imagine something and masturbate. Perhaps by morning, when you have the morning wood (several times I've done this), but the release feels so different. Of course it's about the dopamine and other stuff releasing; with ���� the effect is much higher. Without the release might not feel so great; the inner wirings of our brains are so complicated!

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This is my biggest issue but I think it is also my biggest way out of this mess. Let me explain; I have a way out without sinning and that is by masturbating with no ���� or sexual thoughts, I have done this and can do this. Does it feel as good as it does with ����? No way but ���� is the sin in this, not masturbation. So, through your thoughts the Holy Spirit has spoken! My way out is masturbation without the frosting! And as St. Paul says "But God is faithful; He will not suffer you to be tempted beyond that which ye are able to bear, but with the temptation will also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." My escape is the one you put forward, masturbation with no ����. Sure, it will not be carnally satisfying but it will stop the simulated "RoidRage"

arkailija;730322 said:

On another health related side, if there's no ejaculation, there can be "acne" inside your penis, as in black heads and such. I read about this longer time ago, would take a moment to find the article, if someone is interested let me know.
Other more known part is about the prostate, so releasing few times a week is actually good for the prostate. I've had some occasions where I've gone several days without a release (I mean, often I release daily) and when I released I felt pain in my PC muscles! Thankfully it went away quite quick, but the first shock felt so strange.

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I intend to look deeply into the consequences of my desire to remain abstinent. If I were only able to have wet dreams this would not be an issue but the thing is after a week or two the dry, sexual dreams come constantly, all night every night, and this never allows a release. So the build up becomes greater. As it approaches the 2-3 week area I start to become someone I do not like to be. Now, if I do one thing that I believe improves me only to see that it actually is making things worse I need to reexamine the situation. So from here I will look into the physical and mental issues around abstinence and how it effects health.

arkailija;730322 said:

Just wishing you all the best DLD; you're a shining light for many men and I hope in my heart for your and your loved one's best health, both physically and mentally.

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Thank you and know that I love and appreciate you guys so much. This journey would be miserable and unsustainable without the guidance of God, my Son and the Brotherhood. I thank everyone from the bottom of my heart.

I am not giving in or giving up, I am only finding a better road to travel.

We're all here to improve physically/emotionally/spiritually so I'm saying this with that tenet in mind:

No need to 'correct' what is not 'broken'. So much time/effort/energy is expended in suppressing The Natural Order. Whatever mental road-map directing you down the path of guilt and shame for essentially practicing a normal bodily function, needs a re-set.

On a side note, I wonder what God watches when he faps?

Big Schwanz Acht;730383 said:

No need to 'correct' what is not 'broken'. So much time/effort/energy is expended in suppressing The Natural Order. Whatever mental road-map directing you down the path of guilt and shame for essentially practicing a normal bodily function, needs a re-set.

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There is a definite need for release but there is a definite way to do this without violating my own morals. For me the issue is ����/lust, not the actual masturbation. Now it is my selfish desire to look at ���� that brings the problems. My way to deal with this is to see it as a normal body function and take care of it as I would any body necessity. Taking my selfishness out of this, going into the bathroom and knocking it out when I feel the negative emotions coming on will be the best way I can get out of this. Again, I am not giving up or giving in, I am adjusting my way of seeing this and finding a safe method to release without sin.

The warning signs:
-Dreams
-Frustration
-Temper
-Impatience

When these come on it is a natural sign that I have built up too much testosterone and need to release. I can make that happen in under a minute. So the plan now is to still strive for the 90 days but if I start suffering the above negative emotions I will take action to reset. Sound good?

Maybe we should rename the thread to 'No ���� For 90 Days' challenge??

K, non-sequitur alert...I appreciate the creativity in which your brain works. Too many only see the issue myopically, there are many ways to skin that kitty!!

Big Schwanz Acht;730440 said:

Maybe we should rename the thread to 'No ���� For 90 Days' challenge??

K, non-sequitur alert...I appreciate the creativity in which your brain works. Too many only see the issue myopically, there are many ways to skin that kitty!!

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Nah, remember many of us are trying to keep masturbation under control so let us continue to strive for both. The way I see it (as far as progress is going) I am shooting for the Sun and landing on the Moon, this is massive progress for me. Lets look back for a second and see how far I have come (cum)

I started this 12/02/2016 and today is 5/7/2017 that is 6 months! Now how many days, easy 180, double the challenge. If this never took place I would have masturbated and watched ���� about 200-270 times over that period. Today I can say that over that 120 days I only fell 6 times! This contrast is amazing and so incredibly appreciated. I have come so far and now I know I am no longer a master to these things.

great achievement,im not into stopping masturbation for now because i dont see it as a problem.i dont masturbate everyday i only do it 4 times a week sometimes 5..

I'm 5 days in and I'm raging in every single way bro. I try to keep myself busy as possible. PE makes it super hard as well *no pun intended. I can't see the first page on mobile for some reason, so idk what your reasons are for this challenge! I'm def seeing a big difference!