I think just about every guys knows about NPenis Enlargement. The weeding out part occurs when these guys realize this growth is not immediate--you have to WORK for it! I have been an on-and-off Penis Enlargementer for a LONG time, but this time I intend to stay on the routine. I figure, even if it takes me 1 year to reach 1/4", it's still worth it. I will end up feeling better about myself physically, and more importantly: MENTALLY!!
 
On the one hand, Penis Enlargement isn't a secret. Like someone else said, the amount of spam and ridiculous pop-up ads on the subject (not counting those ever-present ads for pills) have made sure that a lot of people know about this. And, those of us "in the know" searched the web to come up with info. That's still available to anyone who wants to know about it. So, nothing needs to change, no big "Penis Enlargement is here" marketing. Those who want Penis Enlargement will find their way to it.
 
Why to keep it secret? Average dick size cannot easily increase by Penis Enlargement, because most of the men are too lazy to get results. Even if average would be 8'', you don't have to be 13'', cause it is useless unless you aim to be a record breaker. There is plenty of chicks there, enough for everyone, so why to compete so badly? My opinion is that it must be as common as possible. If it was kept strictly secret, then we wouldn't be here.
 
Originally posted by Questor
If all the men knew that it worked most would try but never get anywhere with it.
Look at some of the dedication of people like SS4jelq, and YGuy. They did everything but saw no gains for a long time! And after 3-4 years they finally got gains. Who has that type of dedication? I say only about 1% of the population.
I am in this for me and my wife.
Questor, sure, SS4jelq & YGuy have amazing discipline & dedication; but to assume that everybody needs 3 years of training to see results is beyond me. I saw gains within my first month of training....like 0.5" girth! I broke an inch in length in under 7 months (& about 1" girth) - all erect measurements.
I also dispute your contention that "most men already know about Penis Enlargement" - no they don't.
I've attempted to casually broach the subject with men I know in different circles (work, neighbors, friends, etc.) - very casually, not to arouse suspicion, but they don't have a clue about NPenis Enlargement. Some will say, "Oh, those stupid pills - that has to be bullshit." Or, "I've heard of those dick pumps, I don't believe that shit or everybody would have a big dick." Etc., etc., etc.
Very few men - very few - know about jelqs, manual stretching, Ulis, etc. I'm telling you, most guys do NOT believe they can do anything about their dick size - or they'd be here.
If you added all the guys up at MOS forums, Thunder's, Penis Enlargement Forum, etc., what's the total membership??? 12-15,000 guys? There's about 130 million in U.S.A. alone - over 3 billion worldwide!
I contend that less than 1/100th of 1% of men worldwide truly are familiar with NPenis Enlargement (even that number would be 300,000 men - probably an overestimate).
If NPenis Enlargement were "proven effective" by the medical community, our "little circle" of maybe 20,000 guys would jump to hundreds of millions of guys - many of them Penis Enlargement'ing long enough to add an inch or 2 to their tools - especially since the art/science of Penis Enlargement would not doubt become more refined, specialized, etc.
Guaranteed.
 
And consider this worst-case scenario. Only about 1/1,000 of 1% of the world's men are registered on these boards - if that many. We regard 2" per year as a great gain. What if it's not? We're basing this on such a small sampling of men - again, 1/1,000th of 1 percent.
What if there are guys out there who can gain 3-4" in 1 year, or even less time? We might suddenly find ourselves again on the outside looking in.
Do you want to hear women say, "Eight inches?" then pout, "My last 5 boyfriends all had at least ten." ???
Duh.
Again, I'm not saying that 80 or 90% of men will become jelqoholics, but don't kid yourselves - it won't be 2 or 3% either.
 
Originally posted by WaxN
And consider this worst-case scenario. Only about 1/1,000 of 1% of the world's men are registered on these boards - if that many. We regard 2" per year as a great gain. What if it's not? We're basing this on such a small sampling of men - again, 1/1,000th of 1 percent.
What if there are guys out there who can gain 3-4" in 1 year, or even less time? We might suddenly find ourselves again on the outside looking in.
Do you want to hear women say, "Eight inches?" then pout, "My last 5 boyfriends all had at least ten." ???
Duh.
Again, I'm not saying that 80 or 90% of men will become jelqoholics, but don't kid yourselves - it won't be 2 or 3% either.
Even most doctors think this is bullshit - most guys certainly do, as well. Imagine if it were "proven," then made public.
 
Waxn is completely and totally right, if you ask me. I couldn't agree more with his reasoning. While it is true that a vast majority of humans are innately lazy and looking for a "quick fix" to help them attain their goals, I can't help but think that if Penis Enlargement were proven then there would be an overwhelming amount of men taking up Penis Enlargement and seeing substantial gains from it. Where would that leave us? Right back where we started: average, or in some cases below average. It's best to keep Penis Enlargement as quiet as can be, at least for the time being.
 
Just about everyone on the Internet knows about Penis Enlargement. Only a select few know that it actually works.

What are the chances that it will be "proven" in a way to convince the rest? I can imagine that a higher percentage will be believers in the future, but not that it would be "proven" in the normal medical sense.

Does the world know? Yes. Do they believe? No.
 
A heck of a lot more people know about these sites then are registered. I waited a year to register for Thunder's myself. Why? Laziness, I didn't want to have to do all that work. :)

I believe many more people look at the sites think it's hogwash, and don't do anything about it. Still others look at it try a couple of exercises get discouraged or just plain hurt themselves. Then quit and never look back.

From MDC:
Does the world know? Yes. Do they believe? No.

Hear, hear!

But in the end it is my "belief" and your "belief". And I believe your wrong! :)

Just kidding, because everyone is entitled to there opinion.

~Q
 
No. If you have a secret recipe, why give it away for others to make? You put all the work into finding the solution and now you just give it away? Let the lazy people not find it. What it boils down too is want. If you want it enough, you will find it. Period. End of story.

 
Originally posted by Questor
But in the end it is my "belief" and your "belief". And I believe your wrong! :)
Just kidding, because everyone is entitled to there opinion.
In the end, it is a matter of opinion - because neither of us really knows how many men would Penis Enlargement, or stick with it.
But I want to make a few distinctions about what was said.
(1) To say that "everyone with Internet access knows about Penis Enlargement" seems a stretch. What do you mean by "knows"? Are you saying that "everyone with internet access" (hundreds of millions of men worldwide - if not over a billion) knows about jelqs, stretches, LOT, tunica & lig stretching, DLD Blasters, A-stretches, Fake-Arm Stretches, Ulis, holds, pan rolls, etc.? If so, that's astounding because.....um, nobody I've ever mentioned any of that to had a clue what I was talking about - not even one person.
(2) I believe that most men are familiar with penis enlargement ads - just like we see ads for get-rich-quick schemes, or horoscopes, or miracle weight-loss pills, etc. Again, most people think those ads are bullshit.
(3) I never said that a majority of men would become Penis Enlargement veterans if the cat got out of the bag - but I believe a lot more would than you're willing to admit to.
(4) There's a difference between "gym laziness" & "Penis Enlargement laziness." A gym committment requires hours per week, much more effort & exertion (I don't know about you, but I never huffed & puffed like a locomotive from Penis Enlargement, or came close to puking, or screamed out my reps like a nut while doing Penis Enlargement); gym training also requires certain nutritional considerations, plenty of sleep, travel time to & fro, etc. And penis size, like I said, seems far more crucial to men than bicep size or bench press. You cannot gauge how many men would Penis Enlargement based on how relatively few go to gyms on a regular basis.
(5) It's delusional to believe that over 3 billion men secretly visit these boards, while only about 20,000 have registered, ha ha.
I did not believe Penis Enlargement - nor would I have ever tried it were it not for mild ED that I was trying to cure (and did, by the way). But just from doing the exercises every other day - for about 20-30 minutes per session - I made visible girth gains (1/2") in about a month or less....so I was hooked. Would I have done these for 3 years without gains? Hell no! Three months? Nope. But I do them now, even though I'm plateaued currently - because I know they work - not because I'm "disciplined" (because if I were, then I'd still be pumping iron).
I've spent about 9 months accumulating quite a Penis Enlargement library, which I continuously update on CD (in case of crashes, reformatting, etc.). I have a few hundred MBs, including payguides, videos, websites, articles, many DLD posts LOL, etc.)....I wouldn't just hand over a copy to my best friend. Sure don't want the world to become "believers" like I did. :)
 
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Originally posted by WaxN
I don't know about you, but I never huffed & puffed like a locomotive from Penis Enlargement, or came close to puking, or screamed out my reps like a nut while doing Penis Enlargement

...So you mean I'm the only one who does this? :confused: :(

:D
 
Waxn - Cheeeeel man.

1.) I am trying to find where I said this in my posts but I can't. Perhaps your reading to much into my posts?

2.) So your saying most men know about Penis Enlargement? And they think that it is hogwash. Hrm.

3.) I reiterate, I don't care how many people would become "veterans" of Penis Enlargement. I am doing this for myself. Whether my theoretical percentages are right or wrong it doesn't really matter.

4.) I believe that gym workouts and Penis Enlargement are very similar. You need to eat right, sleep right, and exercise right. It is kind of a "wholistic" approach to Penis Enlargement.


I did not believe Penis Enlargement - nor would I have ever tried it were it not for mild ED that I was trying to cure

So what your saying hear is that you knew about Penis Enlargement, and wouldn't have done anything if not for your ED? Interesting.

Delusion-ally yours,
~Q
 
I personally don't want it all over but heck it will be all over sooner or later. And I don't mean all the BS and magic pill info either.

Although I DO feel that DLD should be rewarded / Paid for all his hardwork and effort. I have mentioned a few times that the forums should not be open to the general net public for free. -

I do however feel that there has to be something to be offered to the the nonpaying public to feel like they need to join or see some of the forums but not everything for free. I'm the first person to help out WHENEVER someone needs it.

I just don't want so see DLD to be ripped off, I think he should be compensated and get at least 10 times the amount he dreams he might get repaid for all his hard work and effort thats all.

Too many people get ripped off after putting their heart and soul on the line.

Just my .02 cents thats all.
 
Originally posted by ctmwm
I personally don't want it all over but heck it will be all over sooner or later. And I don't mean all the BS and magic pill info either.

Although I DO feel that DLD should be rewarded / Paid for all his hardwork and effort. I have mentioned a few times that the forums should not be open to the general net public for free. -

I do however feel that there has to be something to be offered to the the nonpaying public to feel like they need to join or see some of the forums but not everything for free. I'm the first person to help out WHENEVER someone needs it.

I just don't want so see DLD to be ripped off, I think he should be compensated and get at least 10 times the amount he dreams he might get repaid for all his hard work and effort thats all.

Too many people get ripped off after putting their heart and soul on the line.

Just my .02 cents thats all.

:)
 
Hold on,

I mean absolutely no offense by this comment, but...

Hasn't DLD been paid handsomely already by getting a big dick? Why the bait and switch?

I can't really judge, DLD has helped me on many occassions in the past and even to this day. Can't blame the guy for trying to make a living. Shit, I'd probably exploit myself too.

Whatever happens to Penis Enlargement in the future is of no concern to me. I'll still be gettin' mine. Will you be getting yours? Fuck it, let it go mainstream. Penis Enlargement is survival of the fittest. And have you seen what the average Joe Blow looks like? Shiftless!

If you can find a way to sell sand to Egyptians, more power to ya!
 
If it goes Public it still will not be accepted. I have seen other forums nothing to do with Penis Enlargement talk about Jelqing and if it works, the majority of the posts say that in the long run you will weaken your dick. No matter what you say to them they will always believe what the doctor says.

No matter how much advertising Penis Enlargement gets, their will still be a high percentage of men out their that will still think that it is a scam and won't believe in it no matter what.
 
NOOOOO! I take it all back!! Stop DLD!!! Dont let Penis Enlargement go mainstreeeeeam!! I'm a lazy bastard who fears any form of "competition" or the idea of one more guy 'maybe' having a bigger dick than me because he's more motivated than I am!! AAAAugh!! LOL. That's what it really boils down to isnt it? You KNOW who I'm talking to.
 
I would rather the world didn't know about it. I would prefer women to think my enlarged penis is in fact my natural size and not the product of many hours of work.

But the guys are right, even if everybody did know about it, I doub't enough people would do it consistantly for it to have any kind of impact on womens perceptions of penises on the whole. Most men want a six pack but how many have one?

I think the men that want a bigger dick bad enough already know about Penis Enlargement - guys like me that started really small and just HAD to get a bigger dick, so I spent hours online learning about it and put it into practice on a regular basis because I just couldn't take being that small. Now that I'm a little above average size I can barely bring myself to do my routines. Go figure.
 
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