Does girth excercise with the bathmate causes peyronies disease?

Someone in the progress log section just told me that he read somewhere that doing length and girth exercises causes peyronies disease. He said girth exercises in particular causes peyronies disease.

My question is, will I face this problem since I'm currently doing a length and girth routine? I'm using the length master and the bathmate.

huge-girth said:

My question is, will I face this problem since I'm currently doing a length and girth routine? I'm using the length master and the bathmate.

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I estimate that the answer to this would be no, because so many are doing the same thing that you are doing.

Is this something that we have to worry about that much? This is very rare that someone gets peyronie's from PE, right ?

As insane as this answer could sound, my answer is YES. From personal experience.

First of all, I did not develop peyronies disease. HOWEVER, the reason why I am so focused in finding a way to increase my length is the following.

About 8 years ago I started an aggressive PE routine which included a chemical. As a result, my length had almost no change, but my girth went up a full inch in one year. And I am not talking about that fluid retention swollen girth that some people claim as gains taking pictures after a pumping session. NO. This is one full inch while being dry with all the veins sticking out.

What else did change in my penis? The CURVE. I naturally always had a slight curve to the right, a little bit above mid way. Above I mean towards the head. After this girth gain, my curve really became more pronounced to the right. In fact, when I am fully erect, inspecting my CC chambers I can feel that the right side has more density around the curve. Is not a pronounced curve that would impede sex or have any negative effect, but is a curve that knowing myself I noticed becoming more pronounced than before.

What was my conclusion. The PE routine I was following was not targeting the septum at all. Since my penis ran out of space, girth increased and the curve increased. Its pretty much like inflating a balloon. If its one of those long balloons, first it will expand its length. Once it reaches that length, it will start inflating in girth.

Since the penis is not exactly a balloon, it cant keep growing girth at the same pace. If that was the case today I would be 10 inches of girth. Instead, the penis started curving because the internal pressure was too much and the septum WILL NOT give away.

Therefore thats why my answer is yes. If you focus only on girth, it will come to a point in which the penis wants to increase length in order to accommodate all the new girth but doesn't have anywhere else to go so it will start curving either upwards, downwards, right, left, anywhere.

To avoid this, you must switch between girth and length routines.

Do anyone know anybody that got peyronie´s disease from doing PE ?

I been doing PE since 2001, and did girth & length together, never got the disease. Maybe its possible? perhaps some men are more predisposed to it? the man you mention, needs to cite medical sources.

Personally I dont think it will cause it.

If I could go back in time, I would train length 100% till I got my erect goal, then just the girth. I believe, from my own experiences, having a large girth going for length is harder then if you have less girth targeting length ... Why? simply because the additional girth is more volume, more size needed for growth.

Commodore said:

Do anyone know anybody that got peyronie´s disease from doing PE ?

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You can get it with rough hard sex, if the penis bends voila you have the recipe for the disease.
My point, dont let this create a load of confusion, just exercise SMART.

Thanks to everyone who commented. Now I feel a bit defeated because I just started a length and girth program. But after reading what red has said, I'm confused now. Mayne I should just focus on length and get that 9 inches first.

I have to measure my erect length first before I can make a final decision.

huge-girth said:

Thanks to everyone who commented. Now I feel a bit defeated because I just started a length and girth program. But after reading what red has said, I'm confused now. Mayne I should just focus on length and get that 9 inches first.

I have to measure my erect length first before I can make a final decision.

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I completely agree with @REDZULU2003 about doing length before girth. Go strictly for length. It seems that girth accommodate easier to an existing length, rather than length increasing on a big girth. Thats my problem right now

It just shows that everyone has different ways to do this, like with anything else in life. I do however truly stand by what I think, in that length is harder once allot of girth is gained. I'm 7" girth, and its DIFFICULT getting length.

Imagine, even .25" on 7" girth is allot more size needed compared with say 5.5" girth.

I should have took more care when I trained, instead of going like a mad man for the girth back in the day. It was always more enjoyable doing it, hence I became obsessed by it, and clamping was born.

Let me put down for anyone who is worried, dont be ... please dont let this put you off doing what you want, I noticed it became difficult once I started getting into 6.2-6.5" girth territory, so, in theory so long as your below 6" girth you wont have the hardships when the girth gets too big.

Hope that makes sense.

Jackxxx said:

I completely agree with @REDZULU2003 about doing length before girth. Go strictly for length. It seems that girth accommodate easier to an existing length, rather than length increasing on a big girth. Thats my problem right now

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Doing girth befor length is completely counterintuitive. It’s like trying to stretch a firehose when it’s filled with water, impossible! Length first and then girth.

REDZULU2003 said:

It just shows that everyone has different ways to do this, like with anything else in life. I do however truly stand by what I think, in that length is harder once allot of girth is gained. I'm 7" girth, and its DIFFICULT getting length.

Imagine, even .25" on 7" girth is allot more size needed compared with say 5.5" girth.

I should have took more care when I trained, instead of going like a mad man for the girth back in the day. It was always more enjoyable doing it, hence I became obsessed by it, and clamping was born.

Let me put down for anyone who is worried, dont be ... please dont let this put you off doing what you want, I noticed it became difficult once I started getting into 6.2-6.5" girth territory, so, in theory so long as your below 6" girth you wont have the hardships when the girth gets too big.

Hope that makes sense.

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My base is 6 inches and mid shaft is slightly above 5.5 inches. This was back in February last year.

Your good, hammer length now.

The routines of years ago, and still today are a mixture for length & girth, but my honest opinion, is that men should target the length first before they specifically go for length. They will still gain a little girth, it goes hand in hand, but they need to keep it low while after length.

Years ago, nothing was mentioned about this from no member on any forum I know, incl MOS. I started in 2001 with PE, and came here in 2003, its only over the years as thicker girthed men [like me] found it harder to gain length, that they put two and two together.

Its also not impossible, I dont believe in that shit. I just need to use more intensity, which is the reason for me using pumping in a packed tube for length, then doing the hanging in a position to target the external penis, or tunicae, and NOT the ligaments specifically.

You could do whatever type of stretching you wanted, target the suspensory ligament, get what you can from the ligs, then go for the external penis [what you see] with OTS and SU hanging angles. I then think once they have been used to a good degree, you will have a nice amount of inner penis showing itself between the anus, and balls, this can then be attacked with expressive stretching.

REDZULU2003 said:

Your good, hammer length now.

The routines of years ago, and still today are a mixture for length & girth, but my honest opinion, is that men should target the length first before they specifically go for length. They will still gain a little girth, it goes hand in hand, but they need to keep it low while after length.

Years ago, nothing was mentioned about this from no member on any forum I know, incl MOS. I started in 2001 with PE, and came here in 2003, its only over the years as thicker girthed men [like me] found it harder to gain length, that they put two and two together.

Its also not impossible, I dont believe in that shit. I just need to use more intensity, which is the reason for me using pumping in a packed tube for length, then doing the hanging in a position to target the external penis, or tunicae, and NOT the ligaments specifically.

You could do whatever type of stretching you wanted, target the suspensory ligament, get what you can from the ligs, then go for the external penis [what you see] with OTS and SU hanging angles. I then think once they have been used to a good degree, you will have a nice amount of inner penis showing itself between the anus, and balls, this can then be attacked with expressive stretching.

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I will do as you have suggested Red. I have taken girth work completely off my mind until further notice. I will focus on length for now.

Sweet, I wish someone would have told me at the time

What do you plan on doing for a length through routine?

REDZULU2003 said:

I been doing PE since 2001, and did girth & length together, never got the disease. Maybe its possible? perhaps some men are more predisposed to it? the man you mention, needs to cite medical sources.

Personally I dont think it will cause it.

If I could go back in time, I would train length 100% till I got my erect goal, then just the girth. I believe, from my own experiences, having a large girth going for length is harder then if you have less girth targeting length ... Why? simply because the additional girth is more volume, more size needed for growth.

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Your comment about having a large girth and how it hinders length gains is the reason why I've been focusing on length all these years. Now that I've gotten myself to 8.25 inches, it's finally time to add girth to the mix. Henceforth, I will be hitting both.

huge-girth said:

Your comment about having a large girth and how it hinders length gains is the reason why I've been focusing on length all these years. Now that I've gotten myself to 8.25 inches, it's finally time to add girth to the mix. Henceforth, I will be hitting both.

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Thinner will always be easier to stretch

DLD said:

Thinner will always be easier to stretch

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What do you think about my situation Boss? At 8.25 with a 6.1 base girth and a 5.5-5.6 mid shaft. I'm shooting for 9 inches length and I'm tired of focusing on length only. I want to start doing girth at night. My pump has arrived. Do you think I can get that additional .75 if I add pumping to my length routine or is it going to make the length gains harder?

huge-girth said:

What do you think about my situation Boss? At 8.25 with a 6.1 base girth and a 5.5-5.6 mid shaft. I'm shooting for 9 inches length and I'm tired of focusing on length only. I want to start doing girth at night. My pump has arrived. Do you think I can get that additional .75 if I add pumping to my length routine or is it going to make the length gains harder?

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If you keep them separated doing length first like in the morning and girth at night