TheStick;372999 said:
Don't stress about phytoestrogens. They have virtually NO effect on your manhood.

Like what?
 
LilT211;372438 said:
The skin cell has keratin in it. This is the molecule that makes it possible for you to sit in a bath tube and not have all the water spill into your body. Keratin is a waterproofing agent of all things. And for those who use Vaseline most will note that only the first application is absorbed. And when it is absorbed it is not 100% absorbed. After the first application the rest stays on the skin because the cells of the penis skin have sensed that they cannot absorb anymore. And as far as getting in your blood and causing damage I seriously doubt it. If it was harmful doctors wouldn't recommend it and the FDA would have said use sparingly or some other crap.

For starters uck the FDA

No one gives a shit about your health... Do not be so nieve..
 
True. Caring about your health is not a governmental concern. Caring about controlling you is: and that's what healthcare is all about.
 
at the risk of citing sources from the internet (which may or maynot have any credibility), this website suggests that vasolene isn't absorbed by the skin at all, hence the greasy feeling left behind.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Petroleum_jelly

"...it is not used in expensive lotions, because it is not absorbed into the skin, resulting in a greasy feel."

"...physicians have shown that Vaseline has no medicinal effect nor any effect on the blistering process, nor is it absorbed by the skin"

Thats assuming that the phytoestrogens or whatever are in the petroleum jelly, or is it another component of vasolene?
 
People have used Vaseline for years it's cheap and doesn't effect gains at all I can't believe someone made this a thread lol.
 
Sorry fi i got worried aobut rubbing a petroleum bi product into my cock..

The muscles around the penis pelvis and anus have a very high concentration of Tesotosterone receptors.. Filling those receptors with estrogen would have negative impacts on the strength of those muscles..

I reccomend people reading "the testosterone syndrome" eugene shippen MD and william fryer.

Interesting stuff...

Explains how when testosterone drops off these muscles atrophy causing decreased erection strength and control in that area. It all makes sense and is a good read.
 
Estrogen DOESN'T bind to testosterone receptors, testosterone does, and estrogen only binds to estrogen receptors. Phytoestrogens in Vaseline have anywhere from .1 to .02% of the biological action of human estrogen. That means that human estrogen is 1000 to 5000 times more potent than phytoestrogens in terms of biological effect. Don't worry about it.
 
I use olive oil as a base then vaseline. Best thing ever. You get vitamin E for your skin . Works great in the shower. The traction and stability in your jelqing even when wet is unmatched. Almost sounds like a michelin commerical...

On a side note, a friend of mine is doing some research in to chemicals similar to the phytoestrogens supposedly found in Vaseline. I'd say, if you all have some time, check out this 45 minute long documentary from CBC television. I discusses the advance of chemical technology and the effects of these chemicals on the male and female reproductive cycle. If at least some of the things they mention in this documentary are true, I'm a little worried:

[video=google;7530701744597358451]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7530701744597358451&ei=dhqhS5yxBJOErQLr_ZXiBw&q=disappearing+male&hl=en#[/video]
 
TheStick;374179 said:
Estrogen DOESN'T bind to testosterone receptors, testosterone does, and estrogen only binds to estrogen receptors. Phytoestrogens in Vaseline have anywhere from .1 to .02% of the biological action of human estrogen. That means that human estrogen is 1000 to 5000 times more potent than phytoestrogens in terms of biological effect. Don't worry about it.

that is not true E2 can bind to androgen receptors.

Estrogen is often a culprit for blocking testosterone receptors, and by reducing the amount of estrogen present in a man's body, the receptors may then be unblocked and able to function normally.

Please do not tell me it cant because i personally have estrogen dominance and my body recognises it as testosterone so it does not increase LH or FSH signals as it can not recognise a problem.
 
In a few hundred years humanity will look back on us and laugh at our misuse of chemicals/plastics, exactly how we laugh when we think of past civilisaitons using lead for pipes...
 
I know this stuff can be harsh on the skin when jelqing, and it does damage some rubbers + plastics.
 
I know this stuff can be harsh on the skin when jelqing, and it does damage some rubbers + plastics.

You have to be super careful, it is a nightmare to clean up and it will destroy equipment but nothing compares to the drag Vaseline gives. I ruined so many dress pants when I worked as a salesman, because if you don’t get every bit up it will ruin your clothes. But if I do wet work I am still a sucker for Vaseline.
 
Well as some of you may or not know vaseline is the by product of petroleum. As is plastic. What some of you will probably not know is the these products act as phytoestrogens that can severly impact your man hood.

Anything you put on your skin is absorbed into your blood stream within about 20-30 min depending on area of application.

Basically it reduces your testosteorne levels.

And it will damage plastics, cock rings pump seals ect.

I'm bumping this. A must read for everyone doing PE. Vaseline messed up my bathmate back then.
 
I find no lube to be best. Dry gives complete control
 
I find no lube to be best. Dry gives complete control

I've never read about dry before. I though the use of lube was mandatory for girth work. I will give it a try someday when I'm ready.
 
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