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To jump on a subject about DHT Gel that Supra and others have brought forth. What about this below? It's a hard read, but informative...

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Background: Percutaneous administration of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) has been successful in promoting phallic growth in infants and children with 5-reductase deficiency raised as males. We investigated whether percutaneous administration of DHT is similarly effective in patients with micropenis due to alternative diagnoses. Methods: Six patients (age range 1.9-8.3 years) with micropenis of variable etiology were studied prospectively. 2.5% DHT gel was applied to the phallus once daily at a dose of 0.15-0.33 mg/kg body weight. Serum DHT concentrations were measured at 0, 2, 4, 8, 12 and 24 h following application of DHT gel. Results: Peak DHT concentrations were attained within 2-8 h after application of the gel and subsequently remained within the normal adult range in all but 1 patient, who had received the lowest dose of 0.15 mg/kg. An increase in phallic growth, ranging from 0.5-2.0 cm, was achieved after 3-4 months of treatment in all patients whose DHT concentrations were maintained within adult range. Conclusion: Percutaneous administration of DHT in a dose of 0.2-0.3 mg/kg once daily for a period of 3-4 months may be useful in the management of patients with testosterone biosynthetic defects, who have sufficient masculinization to warrant male sex assignment, or in patients with micropenis prior to reconstructive surgery.

Copyright © 2002 S. Karger AG, Basel
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So to prevent my kids from having to do what I am doing for length and girth, should I get some of this and start them on it?
 
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does Percutaneous mean applying to the skin directly?
 
Yes.

per·cu·ta·ne·ous (pûr'kyū-tā'nē-əs)
adj. Medicine.
Passed, done, or effected through the skin.

percutaneously per'cu·ta'ne·ous·ly adv.
 
well i did a search and the only english place i could find to sell it is this place
http://www.secure-sales.org.uk/clinic/testosterone-gel.shtml
£100 for 2 tubes, youve gotta be joking. almost the same as chaging £50 for 4 viagra tablets!! the price is as if they have thrown down random numbers onto the page. anyone know a better site?
p.s. i searched for andractim
 
EVO said:
well i did a search and the only english place i could find to sell it is this place
http://www.secure-sales.org.uk/clinic/testosterone-gel.shtml
£100 for 2 tubes, youve gotta be joking. almost the same as chaging £50 for 4 viagra tablets!! the price is as if they have thrown down random numbers onto the page. anyone know a better site?
p.s. i searched for andractim
Don't buy that! You want to find DHT gel, not testosterone gel. There is another name for it...andractrim or something?
 
ye this is andractim, but for some reason its got in big letters testosterone gel. dude i wouldnt buy it at that price anyway!
 
The tubes have 80g in each and I apply 1.25g or 2.5g per session so it lasts for ages.

Also contains a free PSA test kit. Relaible delivery small enough to be posted through letter box.

The guy is helpful in e-mail too. Of course I did not tell him what I am using it for :)
 
Well I just ordered the two tubes with test. Should be here in 12 days.

I am going to do 3 weeks on and 2 weeks off and have my test checked. I also ordered the andro-d gel, and the rop. This will be interesting... My goal is to focus on Penis Enlargement, including my new vacextender, for 6 months and gain just one inch if at all possible. Seems to be a hard goal based on what everone else is taking...

I am currently at 7(bone pressed)x5.75 (at base) and want to push for 8x6.75 if at all possible.

I am also on a diet and exercising... so I am going to make a 6 month life changing experience. Well, I am already down 35 pounds, just need another 15 to be in my ideal weight range.
 
bluenun said:
The tubes have 80g in each and I apply 1.25g or 2.5g per session so it lasts for ages.

Also contains a free PSA test kit. Relaible delivery small enough to be posted through letter box.

The guy is helpful in e-mail too. Of course I did not tell him what I am using it for :)


hey bluenun have you noticed anything on this stuff? how long have you been on it? i would like to get some (preferably from a cheaper source) have you gained off it? and also are your erections any better? cheers
 
Although DHT holds promise for Penis Enlargement... you have to put the study above into perspective. It was done on very young boys. We all know that growth factors affect pre-pubescent children very differently than with adults. Once a boy passes puberty, most of the growth effects are very much diminished. That said, unless you are pre-disposed to BPH and/or androgenic alopecia give it a shot.
 
sikdogg said:
Although DHT holds promise for Penis Enlargement... you have to put the study above into perspective. It was done on very young boys. We all know that growth factors affect pre-pubescent children very differently than with adults. Once a boy passes puberty, most of the growth effects are very much diminished. That said, unless you are pre-disposed to BPH and/or androgenic alopecia give it a shot.
According to the studies I've read, androgen receptors in the penis are pretty much the same after puberty.
 
I found another study, trying to find it again, that they had a 50 male study with DHT and placebo. 8 out of the 50 was given the placebo, the remaining 42 received DHT Gel and a few other big word item mixture. After 6 months, the males reported bigger erections, painful erections, larger penis, etc. When they surveyed the 42 male partners, the partners stated they want their males to continue the study. Said the increase in sex drive, penis size, etc was worth them staying on it. The next 6 months of the study, no GEL or special mixture - just placebo. The 42 reported no reduction in penis size but sex drive did drop off.

If I find it again, I'll post it up.

I am still going down this road and will continue to report my findings... Oh, I am 35 years old and I fit right into the range of the men for the above study.
 
nice, ill be interested to see what you get out of this!
 
I'd love to read that study if you can find it... definitely sounds very positive.
 
spinner2 said:
According to the studies I've read, androgen receptors in the penis are pretty much the same after puberty.
I question this only because if this was the case, bodybuilders who take massive amounts of androgens should have dicks that hang down to their ankles.

I've been on steroid cycles where i was taking over 1,000mg of test per week (plus other hormones). Consider that replacement dose of testosterone on hypogonadal men is only in the 100mg per week range. At a dose of 1gr per week, circulating test and DHT is way way above normal baselines for any age group. While on-cycle, i never noticed any growth bursts while Penis Enlargement'ing.

I believe it was Goldmember that mentioned a study where PGE1 was able to upgregulate androgen receptors in the penis. That's definitely promising and would be recommended with DHT.
 
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frontierxe to answer your original question:
frontierxe said:
So to prevent my kids from having to do what I am doing for length and girth, should I get some of this and start them on it?
By you saying,"having to do what I am doing for length and girth.", you mean doing P.E. for yourself.
I would say Yes to P.E. and No on the T-Gel method.
I teach my kids mental health, well as physical health.
I say have their testosterone levels check, have 'em wear a RoP(Ball-Zinger) for awhile and retested for any improvements.
http://penis-enlargement-manual.thundersplace.org/tom-hubbard/2002/libido-sperm-production-ball-zinger.html

For myself, I rather have my body create the hormones instead of enforcing them on me. Our body is a huge chemical factory in progress

For me, along with my best friend, at the time of puberty we grew up as late bloomers. His parents could afford hormone treatment and my parents couldn't. He went threw treatment and sure his penis grew normally from it. He's also went bald , and has more hair than a grizzley bear all over his body. Meanwhile, I'm still smooth skinned and a full head of hair and a penis that finally grew up to adulthood through Penis Enlargement.

Sometimes we don't want to disrupt the system and cause havoc, the system may be on a different time-schedule is all.
(in the breath ) ...and sometimes the chemical factory is imbalanced and needs a slight kick-start to start producing.

Ulitimely do your research and make a well-educated decision based on truth(s).
 
Don't do anything to mess around with kids hormones, not unless the doc recommends it, just let nature take it's course (you don't want growth plates fusing early etc.) By the time they are in puberty their test levels should be raging anyway. Just make sure they get proper nurition and the right vitimins and minerals, espiecially zinc.
I've often wondered whether I'd encourage my children to P.E. (not a father...future reference). I believe there would be a vast scope for enlargement through puberty with a little stretching/jelqing. You'd have to be careful how you encouraged it though... people may few it as weird.

Keep this thread ticking guys... there could be real hope for this stuff.
 
sikdogg said:
I believe it was Goldmember that mentioned a study where PGE1 was able to upgregulate androgen receptors in the penis. That's definitely promising and would be recommended with DHT.
I'm not surprised by this at all. Magnumforce gave so many hints about how important PGE-1 is for massive gains.

As for DHT, I remember girthius making gains on that alone. I haven't read of anyone else who tried it.
 
I am still waiting for my order to come in. It's driving me nuts waiting this long....
 
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