millionman said:
Hmmmm....Vacu-tech? I've never heard of them before. Any more info on them?

Anyway, as far as pumping goes for Penis Enlargement it's supposed to be used in conjunction with a basic manual program. Avocet8 over at thunder's makes a good point about the primary goal of Penis Enlargement is to have more of what you have and not to get all the "extras" that come along with it, like discoloration and extra skin. I don't mind this as much, but as I've taken a more moderate approach to my Penis Enlargement routine I have less and less skin growth and even less bruising and discoloration along my shaft. Even when I have fairly lengthy session I don't have many if any problems. Moderation is key to progress, and that's a safe rule for EVERYONE to follow, because most of the guys here are going to look to DLD for the example but he is not the RULE. I think there are many many men who come here expecting gains like his or to be able to perform routines like his. He's like the 1% of Penis Enlargementers that can gain on 7 days one off. Take it easy and be patient and you'll grow.


I got my system from them. They have some quality tubes and a lot of experience. They taper their tubes and can custom make them for you. LA Pumps and Vacu-tech seem to be the two best-known tube makers in the Penis Enlargement community.

About your moderation approach, when I hear "moderation" it seems like, yes, "slow and steady", but I don't want "slow", even if it's the expense of my skin color and such. I don't think people that seriously want to gain should take a moderate approach. I'll have plenty of time to let the discoloration go away once I reach my goal. Until then, I'll take BigGirtha's saying of "I'm going for big, I don't care about pretty." There's always plenty of time to heal and such after you reach your goals, especially since I'm only 18. I bet girls would wonder what is up with my dick though, it's pretty beat-up looking.
 
stillwantmore2 said:
AH, but HOW are they pumping? Are they pumping for gains? Mostly not. Most of them are into the homo-erotic-fetish side of pumping. Their main focus is to pump their balls/penis as large as possible (fluid buildup big time!) for the sake of showing off. Thats mostly all. As a new pumper, and one who will be ONLY pumping, and on a daily, very consistent routine...I am optimistic that I can make permanent gains. Time will tell, but I'm optimistic about it.

based on what are you optimistic?
I appreciate your point of view on the whole 'homo-erotic-fetish' thing and I agree with it. Perhaps they don't do it properly. But you can't generate the pressure you generate with clamping with a pump. Of that I'm certain.

Speaking of which, you're giving up NPenis Enlargement and Clamping?
 
Since you guys are talking about girth I've gained girth very easily doing manual squeezes (uli's I think) and supra slammers but mostly manual squeezes. To me girth has been very easy to gain. I would only go after girth after I reach my length goal or came close to it. Besides all the girl's that seen it was like "wow that's really thick. Your gonna tear me up." Probably why I'm still a virgin.:s I'm at 5.5 EG. If I was really looking to gain girth I could see how pumping would help. I could pump up an erection and then do some squeezes and then repeat. As long as I got 15-20 min of squeezes in. That's all it takes for me. I think like 10inch has said if use low pressure and not allow too much fluid buildup pumping can be a great supplement to Penis Enlargement. does anyone know what size condom I would use if I wanted to try condom pumping. I'm a virgin and never used a condom so I'm not sure. Like I said I'm a little above 5.5 EG.
 
longstretch said:
Since you guys are talking about girth I've gained girth very easily doing manual squeezes (uli's I think) and supra slammers but mostly manual squeezes. To me girth has been very easy to gain. I would only go after girth after I reach my length goal or came close to it. Besides all the girl's that seen it was like "wow that's really thick. Your gonna tear me up." Probably why I'm still a virgin.:s I'm at 5.5 EG. If I was really looking to gain girth I could see how pumping would help. I could pump up an erection and then do some squeezes and then repeat. As long as I got 15-20 min of squeezes in. That's all it takes for me. I think like 10inch has said if use low pressure and not allow too much fluid buildup pumping can be a great supplement to Penis Enlargement. does anyone know what size condom I would use if I wanted to try condom pumping. I'm a virgin and never used a condom so I'm not sure. Like I said I'm a little above 5.5 EG.

I think the conventional wisdom for condom pumping is to get a tight condom to compress more fluids, in that case you should get a regular condom. Magnums would be the correct condom to get with your midshaft girth. At 5.75" I'd move to the Trojan Magnum XL.
 
longstretch said:
Since you guys are talking about girth I've gained girth very easily doing manual squeezes (uli's I think) and supra slammers but mostly manual squeezes. To me girth has been very easy to gain. I would only go after girth after I reach my length goal or came close to it. Besides all the girl's that seen it was like "wow that's really thick. Your gonna tear me up." Probably why I'm still a virgin.:s I'm at 5.5 EG. If I was really looking to gain girth I could see how pumping would help. I could pump up an erection and then do some squeezes and then repeat. As long as I got 15-20 min of squeezes in. That's all it takes for me. I think like 10inch has said if use low pressure and not allow too much fluid buildup pumping can be a great supplement to Penis Enlargement. does anyone know what size condom I would use if I wanted to try condom pumping. I'm a virgin and never used a condom so I'm not sure. Like I said I'm a little above 5.5 EG.

wow girls say ur gonna tear them up at 5.5" girth? Hydromaxm maybe some of us in 6+ club should stop girth work and reconsider this.

but then again, i live for 'tearing' them up... not literally... but its great to know it hurts them when you put it in.. :s ... back to the clamps boys>:( >:(
 
Yeah at 5.5 my girth is as big as a paper towel roll. Actually bigger because I'm more at 5.6 sometimes 5.7...but who's counting. My dream girth is to be 6.5. I think I could settle for 6 but I wouldn't want to be bigger than 6.5. If I reach 6.5 EG I'll see....7EG might be too tempting.

Does anyone here do uli's or squeezes or supra slammers for girth. Clamps scare the shit out of me. I know a lot will probably clamp while they pump with a condom but does anyone wait till after pumping and then do some squeezes.
 
longstretch said:
Yeah at 5.5 my girth is as big as a paper towel roll. Actually bigger because I'm more at 5.6 sometimes 5.7...but who's counting. My dream girth is to be 6.5. I think I could settle for 6 but I wouldn't want to be bigger than 6.5. If I reach 6.5 EG I'll see....7EG might be too tempting.

Does anyone here do uli's or squeezes or supra slammers for girth. Clamps scare the shit out of me. I know a lot will probably clamp while they pump with a condom but does anyone wait till after pumping and then do some squeezes.

I find girth work AFTER pumping to be highly ineffective. Fluid between the skin collapses the Tunica, and reduces internal pressure.
 
Manual before automatic(pumping). What Vaseline said. The wall-clamp-style pumping looks promising though, two exercises in one! The ultimate lazy-man's true guaranteed-to-gain pumping Penis Enlargement(this theory not yet thoroughly tested).
 
Well got my big man's pump today. Gonna try condom pumping and let you know how it goes. I'm still waiting for my max-vac though.
 
I did two 30 secs sets of uli's and then I did two 10 min sets of condom pumping. I proceded to jack off with the pump which is not as fun as I thought. Went and cleaned the pump out and water pumped in the bath tub. I did get some fluid build up but I did not notice it till after the water pumping. This was my first time pumping so I did not know what exactly to expect. After I peed most of the fluid buildup went away.

I think this is a good routine. Since I'm a newbie I think i'll just do one set of condom pumping and one set of water pumping for a while until my dick gets used to the pump.
 
LS since you are a newbie what kind of Hg are you using without the condom, and what kind of pressure are you using with the condom?
 
I'm a newbie to pumping not to Pe. I'm coming back from a long break. I Don't know how much hg i'm using yet. The big man's pump just comes with a ball pump. I'm going to buy a pump with a gauge as soon as I get some more cheddar. I try to use the least amount of suction. Maybe 2-3 pumps. I might have to do partial pumps throughout the session but I keep the vacuum low.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
You can't speculate how effective pumping will be in conjunction with Penis Enlargement specially if you've never pumped before.

Pumping in itself fatigues you, and vaccum does cause tissue damage. An experienced pumper just uses enough of it to minimize the damage. And take a look at tigerpumping.com. Those guys have been pumping for years, and what do they have to show for it?

I think this is a critical point that needs to be answered: If pumping causes "tissue damage" as you say, then should Penis Enlargement'ers be doing it in the first place? And does regular Penis Enlargementing cause tissue damage compared to pumping?

PS- I'm not trying to scare off anyone into not Penis Enlargementing. I'm just trying to find out if tissue damage is a normal part of penis growth? Stupid question I suppose...?:(
 
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I think this is a critical point that needs to be answered: If pumping causes "tissue damage" as you say, then should Penis Enlargement'ers be doing it in the first place? And does regular Penis Enlargementing cause tissue damage compared to pumping?

PS- I'm not trying to scare off anyone into not Penis Enlargementing. I'm just trying to find out if tissue damage is a normal part of penis growth? Stupid question I suppose...?:(

That's actually a very good point. THE point to discuss while guaging different Penis Enlargement methods. If in fact tissue damage is the key to penile growth, then the more extreme methods should work the best. Hell while you're at it, get some1 to run over your dick with a bike after each Penis Enlargement session.

My experience has been (and I haven't yet reached concrete standing on this point) that growth happens when enough stress is applied to the tissue to signal the 'need' for growth, but not enough to cause the body to treat the stress as an injury. I find that if anything after extreme sessions, I actually get smaller and retract. That's our body's way of minimizing any further damage.

So to answer your question, pumping still remains a valid Penis Enhancement method (not Penis Enlargement necessarily) although I cannot vote for its permanency.
 
This condom pumping is something I'll be trying in the months ahead ... seems very promosing indeed.
 
Condom pumping indeed worked well, but using a Sleeve is much more effective.
 
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